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skoff said:
The MG Rover falls into the same bracket as the Monaro
How did you come to that?1 is a 400bhp coupe the other is a 260bhp saloon.
The Monaros are very good and reliable, I've had mine over 2 years now and it still feels like an event every time you turn the key (which is everyday).
Nothing else for the money and age comes close.
skoff said:
The S4 is bang on the money. I love how 'Q' it is. Does anybody have real world experience of one (4.2 V8)? Is it similar, albeit diluted, to the RS4, which if I am honest is a bit out of reach...
I also like the RS6, but again I'd be concerned about buying one that was already high mileage, worth a look though.
That ZT260 does sound nice... I'm still not convinced though.
I am going to have to investigate an M5 - at the very least a test drive.
I had a V8 S4. Lovely car and strangely underrated. Went like the clappers and I really liked it.I also like the RS6, but again I'd be concerned about buying one that was already high mileage, worth a look though.
That ZT260 does sound nice... I'm still not convinced though.
I am going to have to investigate an M5 - at the very least a test drive.
Vulgar LS2 said:
How did you come to that?
1 is a 400bhp coupe the other is a 260bhp saloon.
The Monaros are very good and reliable, I've had mine over 2 years now and it still feels like an event every time you turn the key (which is everyday).
Nothing else for the money and age comes close.
Yes, maybe a bit (or a lot) harsh on the Monaro. 1 is a 400bhp coupe the other is a 260bhp saloon.
The Monaros are very good and reliable, I've had mine over 2 years now and it still feels like an event every time you turn the key (which is everyday).
Nothing else for the money and age comes close.
That comment was actually referring to the Top Gear love of them that leads me to be unsure of their provenance, and in part to the interior build quality - I mean is it above and beyond your average Vauxhall? (genuine question)
I don't have personal experience of either car and am happy to be educated. The Monaro was on my original list, and continues to be so, though it's not top of the list for me.
skoff said:
Vulgar LS2 said:
How did you come to that?
1 is a 400bhp coupe the other is a 260bhp saloon.
The Monaros are very good and reliable, I've had mine over 2 years now and it still feels like an event every time you turn the key (which is everyday).
Nothing else for the money and age comes close.
Yes, maybe a bit (or a lot) harsh on the Monaro. 1 is a 400bhp coupe the other is a 260bhp saloon.
The Monaros are very good and reliable, I've had mine over 2 years now and it still feels like an event every time you turn the key (which is everyday).
Nothing else for the money and age comes close.
That comment was actually referring to the Top Gear love of them that leads me to be unsure of their provenance, and in part to the interior build quality - I mean is it above and beyond your average Vauxhall? (genuine question)
I don't have personal experience of either car and am happy to be educated. The Monaro was on my original list, and continues to be so, though it's not top of the list for me.
Im 36 and paying £500 fully comp and it can return a smidge under 30MPG.
If there is one local to you go and see it, they do need an aftermarket exhauste though.
the s4 4.2 v8 is a pretty decent car. i actually got to drive one back to back to a rs4 of the same age (56 plate) the s4 had dsg and it actually felt just as fast as the rs4 with the dsg and pulled very well. for the money the s4 was just as good if not slightly better due to more comfy seats and q look but it was also 20k cheaper!
if it was me id get a e46 m3.
30mpg on a cruise, won't get that out of any of the other cars. my uncles m3 coupe avraged 28mpg over 40k and never went wrong and drove really well.
the boot is ok in coupe form but my convertible had a small boot so needs to be a coupe.
looks good and goes well enough hamdles well.
left field choice. nissan 350gt. basicly a 350z but in a coupe with 5 seats. actually slightly quicker than a 350z, sounds good, nice inside.
only issue is most have tip gearbox which is nice to use but manual is better. import only.
can be had for about 6-7k though.
got a skyline badge on it too but not sure it should have one on.
if it was me id get a e46 m3.
30mpg on a cruise, won't get that out of any of the other cars. my uncles m3 coupe avraged 28mpg over 40k and never went wrong and drove really well.
the boot is ok in coupe form but my convertible had a small boot so needs to be a coupe.
looks good and goes well enough hamdles well.
left field choice. nissan 350gt. basicly a 350z but in a coupe with 5 seats. actually slightly quicker than a 350z, sounds good, nice inside.
only issue is most have tip gearbox which is nice to use but manual is better. import only.
can be had for about 6-7k though.
got a skyline badge on it too but not sure it should have one on.
What does the OH drive?
Are you going from collective 3 cars to 2, or from 2 to 1?
My OH has the diesel volvo.
I have an early RS4.
Both big enough to ferry the kids around.
Economy of the volvo means I can afford to run the Audi.
The Audi could cost as little as £500 per year maintainance. But culd be much more - althogh probably Cerbera esque:
eg
10000 service £250
20000 service £500
Front brakes £700+
Rear brakes £700+
Cambelt £700
Camshafts - might wear (mine did) £2000
Turbos - generally pretty good but £4000 to replace.
Remap (430hp) £600
I've had brakes all round, 20000 mile service, cambelt and two exhaust camshafts and a remap this year. So, it has cost a few quid this year. Mine's got 85000 miles on it.
However, fingers crossed, should have a few cheap years motoring.
You can get a pretty good B5 RS4 for £15k
Ok ones for £12k ish
Are you going from collective 3 cars to 2, or from 2 to 1?
My OH has the diesel volvo.
I have an early RS4.
Both big enough to ferry the kids around.
Economy of the volvo means I can afford to run the Audi.
The Audi could cost as little as £500 per year maintainance. But culd be much more - althogh probably Cerbera esque:
eg
10000 service £250
20000 service £500
Front brakes £700+
Rear brakes £700+
Cambelt £700
Camshafts - might wear (mine did) £2000
Turbos - generally pretty good but £4000 to replace.
Remap (430hp) £600
I've had brakes all round, 20000 mile service, cambelt and two exhaust camshafts and a remap this year. So, it has cost a few quid this year. Mine's got 85000 miles on it.
However, fingers crossed, should have a few cheap years motoring.
You can get a pretty good B5 RS4 for £15k
Ok ones for £12k ish
Skoff - the whole family versus car addiction sounds very familiar to me. I still have my Caterham 7 that hardly ever gets used these days but I just cannot bring myself to sell such a fun car. Nothing else gets close to driving pleasure on the right day and on the right roads. But I'd be the first to admit that it's noisy, hard riding, uncomfortable etc and not something I'd enjoy using daily
Have you actually tried a SType R - put a sports exhaust on it for some aural fun and you'd have a very easy to live with car that should do the family duty very well. It's a lot of car for the money and you may rather like the relaxed nature. It's not going to thrill you on a test drive but they have a lot of qualties you may just fall for
I've owned an X308 XJR but the STR will feel more modern (i now have an XFR that suits my family needs perfectly)
If the jag doesn't float your boat the other car I'd look at is the Monaro - I've never driven one and they do seem cheap inside but whenever I see one I always think "car enthusiast"
Have you actually tried a SType R - put a sports exhaust on it for some aural fun and you'd have a very easy to live with car that should do the family duty very well. It's a lot of car for the money and you may rather like the relaxed nature. It's not going to thrill you on a test drive but they have a lot of qualties you may just fall for
I've owned an X308 XJR but the STR will feel more modern (i now have an XFR that suits my family needs perfectly)
If the jag doesn't float your boat the other car I'd look at is the Monaro - I've never driven one and they do seem cheap inside but whenever I see one I always think "car enthusiast"
jagseven said:
I still have my Caterham 7 that hardly ever gets used these days ...I'd be the first to admit that it's noisy, hard riding, uncomfortable etc and not something I'd enjoy using daily
Agreed, terrible little things. If it's an R300 I might take it off your hands for you, help you out sort of thing. I'd be doing you a favour mind..
The OH drives a Honda Civic Sport which she loves and doesn't seem to want to change. It can and does do the family thing, but we always use the 5 series these days as we have got used to the comfort.
I really want to be able to share my car addiction with the family and the Cerbera doesn't allow that.
I think if I got a big 4x4 it would end up being the OHs car and I would end up in the Civic, but I have never driven anything like that so I might be wrong about that.
I really want to be able to share my car addiction with the family and the Cerbera doesn't allow that.
I think if I got a big 4x4 it would end up being the OHs car and I would end up in the Civic, but I have never driven anything like that so I might be wrong about that.
I'm looking into a similar purchase at the moment, trying to weigh up the pros and cons of an S4 avant, E91 330i Touring, and my leftfield (but winning) option, an Alfa 159 3.2 Q4 wagon.
After a lengthy chat with a BMW dealer, I figured an E63 645ci wouldn't really cut it as a family car - shame as they're terrific value at present in my books.
How much of a compromise is having 2 doors with a young family?
After a lengthy chat with a BMW dealer, I figured an E63 645ci wouldn't really cut it as a family car - shame as they're terrific value at present in my books.
How much of a compromise is having 2 doors with a young family?
We actually find 2door cars are better with baby seats. You are more face on to do up straps, clean up vomit, etc. Plus when the little one is bigger there aren't electric windows for them to mess with.
More than one child might change that though, especially in the Civic where the drivers seat doesn't slide forward as much as the passenger seat.
More than one child might change that though, especially in the Civic where the drivers seat doesn't slide forward as much as the passenger seat.
pitbull turbo said:
the s4 4.2 v8 is a pretty decent car. i actually got to drive one back to back to a rs4 of the same age (56 plate) the s4 had dsg and it actually felt just as fast as the rs4 with the dsg and pulled very well.
Unless I am mistaken, the 4.2 S4 never had dsg. standard auto.Only the newer v6 turbo has had dsg (s-tronic).
skoff said:
The OH drives a Honda Civic Sport which she loves and doesn't seem to want to change. It can and does do the family thing, but we always use the 5 series these days as we have got used to the comfort.
I really want to be able to share my car addiction with the family and the Cerbera doesn't allow that.
I think if I got a big 4x4 it would end up being the OHs car and I would end up in the Civic, but I have never driven anything like that so I might be wrong about that.
Need to come up with a plan that gets the OH in the family car and going on holiday car and you in something fun that you can use every day.I really want to be able to share my car addiction with the family and the Cerbera doesn't allow that.
I think if I got a big 4x4 it would end up being the OHs car and I would end up in the Civic, but I have never driven anything like that so I might be wrong about that.
She needs a bigger car and you need a Cerbera you can use every day.
Keep the Beemer for her and turn the Civic and Cerbera into a 911 of some sort?
Searider said:
Need to come up with a plan that gets the OH in the family car and going on holiday car and you in something fun that you can use every day.
She needs a bigger car and you need a Cerbera you can use every day.
Keep the Beemer for her and turn the Civic and Cerbera into a 911 of some sort?
That's what I did - got missus into a Discovery 3 and currently planning what 'fun daily driver' to replace my Merc estate withShe needs a bigger car and you need a Cerbera you can use every day.
Keep the Beemer for her and turn the Civic and Cerbera into a 911 of some sort?
OP, have you thought of a custom car? i.e. Build something to do the job exactly?
Being serious I guess any coupe is really out of the question, as none are really going to offer hugely better practicality in seating terms than the TVR. So as much as I'd like to say Monaro I'm not convinced it's really the answer.
If you want to stick with the coupe theme how about something like a RX-8. If you buy a slightly earlier model it'll leave scope to buy a supercharger kit for it also.
Being serious I guess any coupe is really out of the question, as none are really going to offer hugely better practicality in seating terms than the TVR. So as much as I'd like to say Monaro I'm not convinced it's really the answer.
If you want to stick with the coupe theme how about something like a RX-8. If you buy a slightly earlier model it'll leave scope to buy a supercharger kit for it also.
Searider said:
Need to come up with a plan that gets the OH in the family car and going on holiday car and you in something fun that you can use every day.
She needs a bigger car and you need a Cerbera you can use every day.
Keep the Beemer for her and turn the Civic and Cerbera into a 911 of some sort?
It is a fine idea, however I'd be swapping my Cerbera for a pair of ice skates... I'd need them to skate across the river Styx as hell would be frozen over.She needs a bigger car and you need a Cerbera you can use every day.
Keep the Beemer for her and turn the Civic and Cerbera into a 911 of some sort?
My wife likes the 5, though she much prefers her Honda. Plus she wouldn't put up with the fuel bill as her driving is mostly round and about town, so low 20's opposed to a shade under 40 in the Honda; nah, not going to happen.
I am really liking the idea of the Audi B6 S4, though the S-type R is still probably top of the list - it is, in my head, different enough to stop me comparing to the TVR, and comfortable enough to replace the 5. I have been passenger in a diesel one and it was a pretty nice place to be, so could live with it day to day, and I'd hope it has a bit more character than my 5 series. I do feel obliged to test the revered M5, just in case it wins me over. I am considering an Monaro too, but they are pretty thin on the ground, so I am guessing I won't get the chance to test one without travelling hundreds and hundreds of miles.
I looked at the Alfas posted. Pretty cars, but I am one of the (few?) people who just don't get Alfa, they just leave me a bit cold. I think it might be that their top of the range engine (in their attainable cars) seems to be a 3.2 V6, which, whilst being a glorious engine, isn't a big brutal V8 with lots of ponies, and they do seem quite attached to FWD which doesn't fit with the 'every petrolhead must own an Alfa' reputation they seem to have.
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