RE: Golf R Evo on the way
Discussion
Crafty_ said:
aka_kerrly said:
I really find comments like this particularly annoying as it just highlights the level of stupidity around here.
Would you enter a topic on the new Focus RS and proclaim that you looked at a 1.6TDCI in a showroom 6 months ago and the new RS will be exactly the same ?
I doubt it.
Would someone go into a Renault dealer and argue that a Renault RS is largely the same as the 1.6 diesel
It must only be the VW Audi group topics that attract these sort of people.
I think the point you may have missed is you couldn't mistake a 1.6TDCI for an RS unless you had some sort of eyesight impediment. The same can't be said of the Golf.Would you enter a topic on the new Focus RS and proclaim that you looked at a 1.6TDCI in a showroom 6 months ago and the new RS will be exactly the same ?
I doubt it.
Would someone go into a Renault dealer and argue that a Renault RS is largely the same as the 1.6 diesel
It must only be the VW Audi group topics that attract these sort of people.
Perhaps I am simply expecting too much from a motoring website!!
aka_kerrly said:
Perhaps I am simply expecting too much from a motoring website!!
Respectfully, you're wasting your time. Despite what positive opinion the motoring press may have of the Golf, the people who occupy these forums know better. It will always get (unfairly) slagged off round here.andrewparker said:
Respectfully, you're wasting your time. Despite what positive opinion the motoring press may have of the Golf, the people who occupy these forums know better. It will always get (unfairly) slagged off round here.
You mean anyone who doesn't instantly agree with your "Golf can do no wrong" outlook ?Crafty_ said:
andrewparker said:
Respectfully, you're wasting your time. Despite what positive opinion the motoring press may have of the Golf, the people who occupy these forums know better. It will always get (unfairly) slagged off round here.
You mean anyone who doesn't instantly agree with your "Golf can do no wrong" outlook ?I'm clearly not alone in wondering why a car that almost the entire motoring world agree is an outstanding all round package that IS good to drive is constantly slated around here whenever there is an opportunity.
There are far far too many people who will continue to trot out tired rubbish based on a Golf that was built over 10 years ago and won't accept that VW have improved it considerably. Remember there are plenty of other examples of marques who have got certain models/facelifts badly wrong to.....
That and bland as a description, good god I'm tired of seeing nearly everything that is new being described as bland - that statement extends well beyond VW products!!!
Crafty_ said:
I think the point you may have missed is you couldn't mistake a 1.6TDCI for an RS unless you had some sort of eyesight impediment. The same can't be said of the Golf.
No. The same can be said of the R or GTI. Different seats, different steering wheel, different wheels, different grill, different bodykit, different ride height.
Or are you a bit thick and can only see a badge and unless it has huge wings on it to create a big, flashing neon sign saying THIS IS THE SPORTS MODEL you are unable to identify cars?
Do you have issues identifying a BMW M5 from a 520D as well?
aka_kerrly said:
I'm clearly not alone in wondering why a car that almost the entire motoring world agree is an outstanding all round package that IS good to drive is constantly slated around here whenever there is an opportunity.
Precisely. It's nothing to do with my opinion. What I find strange is how what would normally be valuable (positive) opinion (from the likes of Harris, Sutcliffe, EVO Magazine et al), goes out the window when the car in question is a Golf. It's baffling, and even more so when it comes from people who haven't driven a Golf for 10 years, if at all.andrewparker said:
aka_kerrly said:
I'm clearly not alone in wondering why a car that almost the entire motoring world agree is an outstanding all round package that IS good to drive is constantly slated around here whenever there is an opportunity.
Precisely. It's nothing to do with my opinion. What I find strange is how what would normally be valuable (positive) opinion (from the likes of Harris, Sutcliffe, EVO Magazine et al), goes out the window when the car in question is a Golf. It's baffling, and even more so when it comes from people who haven't driven a Golf for 10 years, if at all.
Welcome to PH.This car is not RWD, it's not going to oversteer, it's only a Golf, it's going to be too expensive and either of you are obviously not a driving god!! Oh, and did I mention? It's only a Golf.
And....stop saying silly things like 'wait and see it/drive it' etc etc, you clearly belong in some mental hospital!!
Colonial said:
Crafty_ said:
I think the point you may have missed is you couldn't mistake a 1.6TDCI for an RS unless you had some sort of eyesight impediment. The same can't be said of the Golf.
No. The same can be said of the R or GTI. Different seats, different steering wheel, different wheels, different grill, different bodykit, different ride height.
Or are you a bit thick and can only see a badge and unless it has huge wings on it to create a big, flashing neon sign saying THIS IS THE SPORTS MODEL you are unable to identify cars?
Do you have issues identifying a BMW M5 from a 520D as well?
Yep, a huge difference there.
Wait, which one was which again?
ManOpener said:
Colonial said:
Crafty_ said:
I think the point you may have missed is you couldn't mistake a 1.6TDCI for an RS unless you had some sort of eyesight impediment. The same can't be said of the Golf.
No. The same can be said of the R or GTI. Different seats, different steering wheel, different wheels, different grill, different bodykit, different ride height.
Or are you a bit thick and can only see a badge and unless it has huge wings on it to create a big, flashing neon sign saying THIS IS THE SPORTS MODEL you are unable to identify cars?
Do you have issues identifying a BMW M5 from a 520D as well?
Yep, a huge difference there.
Wait, which one was which again?
Colonial said:
No. The same can be said of the R or GTI.
Different seats, different steering wheel, different wheels, different grill, different bodykit, different ride height.
Or are you a bit thick and can only see a badge and unless it has huge wings on it to create a big, flashing neon sign saying THIS IS THE SPORTS MODEL you are unable to identify cars?
Do you have issues identifying a BMW M5 from a 520D as well?
disagree, look at my earlier post, a fog light and different wheel is the only real way to tell between the R and "normal" versions.Different seats, different steering wheel, different wheels, different grill, different bodykit, different ride height.
Or are you a bit thick and can only see a badge and unless it has huge wings on it to create a big, flashing neon sign saying THIS IS THE SPORTS MODEL you are unable to identify cars?
Do you have issues identifying a BMW M5 from a 520D as well?
I don't know what you are getting so indignant about, just because I dare have an opinion that coutners yours.
Oh and as for the Focus pictures and s
tty attitude go back and read my earlier post. Clearly the Focus ST is very noticeable, unlike the Golfs.Crafty_ said:
disagree, look at my earlier post, a fog light and different wheel is the only real way to tell between the R and "normal" versions.
I don't know what you are getting so indignant about, just because I dare have an opinion that coutners yours.
Oh and as for the Focus pictures and stty attitude go back and read my earlier post. Clearly the Focus ST is very noticeable, unlike the Golfs.
Apart from the different bumpers, exhausts, certain colours only being available in the R, badging, black mirrors, the fact that it is rapidly disappearing into the distance... I don't know what you are getting so indignant about, just because I dare have an opinion that coutners yours.
Oh and as for the Focus pictures and s
tty attitude go back and read my earlier post. Clearly the Focus ST is very noticeable, unlike the Golfs.
) and I usually agree with your input, Colonial, but lets be honest hot Golfs aren't that dissimilar in appearance to cooking models.sleep envy said:
Fair point, aesthetics aside.
Pretty much any mainstream car built in the last few years with bhp >200 is going to be pretty boring at the speed limit.
My mkvi golf is very dull to drive 99% of the time, my other car more so.
Would I buy a mkvii R evo? Probably but it would be massively underused much like every other car that's bought and used on public roads.
This. Pretty much any mainstream car built in the last few years with bhp >200 is going to be pretty boring at the speed limit.
My mkvi golf is very dull to drive 99% of the time, my other car more so.
Would I buy a mkvii R evo? Probably but it would be massively underused much like every other car that's bought and used on public roads.
Why my recent car history goes: 2011 A4 quattro > 2006 R32 > 2008 S3 > 2009 Cooper S.
The Mini is just more engaging to drive, given the sort of driving I do.
(Plus I never really got on with the Haldex versus the permanent quattro on the A4; the latter seemed more consistent in it's behaviour.)
Not read through the comments so may have already been said..but why do you need so much BHP in a Golf?
In my Impreza I never thought I need more power...and this Golf has a lot more. Rather unnecessary if you ask me. It'll just be for posh chavs who have it to brag about how much power it has.
I am prepared for the flaming.
In my Impreza I never thought I need more power...and this Golf has a lot more. Rather unnecessary if you ask me. It'll just be for posh chavs who have it to brag about how much power it has.
I am prepared for the flaming.
GravelMachineGun said:
Not read through the comments so may have already been said..but why do you need so much BHP in a Golf?
In my Impreza I never thought I need more power...and this Golf has a lot more. Rather unnecessary if you ask me. It'll just be for posh chavs who have it to brag about how much power it has.
I am prepared for the flaming.
I'm going to disagree as I don't think posh chavs that you refer to are the ones demanding more power, I think it is the manufactures who are continuing this obsession with peak HP figures. In my Impreza I never thought I need more power...and this Golf has a lot more. Rather unnecessary if you ask me. It'll just be for posh chavs who have it to brag about how much power it has.
I am prepared for the flaming.
Audi/VW takes it further by combining power with 4wd which simply makes the extra power more accessible to people who can stamp on an accelerator in a straight line (then s
t themselves when they get to a corner).
nckr55 said:
This.
Why my recent car history goes: 2011 A4 quattro > 2006 R32 > 2008 S3 > 2009 Cooper S.
The Mini is just more engaging to drive, given the sort of driving I do.
(Plus I never really got on with the Haldex versus the permanent quattro on the A4; the latter seemed more consistent in it's behaviour.)
This is also why I’m having a very hard time finding a replacement for my R56 Cooper S. It used to be a hot hatch, now it’s barely a warm hatch and yet it is so much more fun to drive than the much more powerful competition. I took a M135i out for a test drive, it’s a rocket, but a quite pointless rocket with my local speed limits.Why my recent car history goes: 2011 A4 quattro > 2006 R32 > 2008 S3 > 2009 Cooper S.
The Mini is just more engaging to drive, given the sort of driving I do.
(Plus I never really got on with the Haldex versus the permanent quattro on the A4; the latter seemed more consistent in it's behaviour.)
The BMW i3 is quite close to the R56S though. Extremely zippy, RWD, low CoG, skinny tires... quite the opposite of a Golf R Evo.
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