unrealistic expectations of the used car market???

unrealistic expectations of the used car market???

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S10GTA

12,786 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Ghost91 said:
S10GTA said:
Why why why why did you need to post that....I've had 3 already smile
These have always been on the list of cars I must own! I'm not sure what exactly it is I like about them but I like them all the same
Nor I. My first was great, the second a dog, the third at the wrong time, and also a bit of a dog too. This one looks interesting tho.

confused_buyer

6,664 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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For the sake of everyone can the OP please just go and buy that Honda. Today. No messing unless it is a Cat C or something.

It is a bargain and seems to tick every single box the OP has and is a very good car to boot.

A dealer will not take £2000 for that Saab unless they are desperate or it is horrible and they got it cheap. It is a £1800-£1900 car at auction after fees.

egor110

16,971 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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confused_buyer said:
For the sake of everyone can the OP please just go and buy that Honda. Today. No messing unless it is a Cat C or something.

It is a bargain and seems to tick every single box the OP has and is a very good car to boot.

A dealer will not take £2000 for that Saab unless they are desperate or it is horrible and they got it cheap. It is a £1800-£1900 car at auction after fees.
He won't , next month he'll start another thread asking exactly the same question.
Every single car someone comes up with there will be a reason it's no good.

Fact is if you have a budget of £2000 then you have to cut your cloth accordingly ( or take out a loan)

Look at the bargain basement thread there are loads of people driving sub £1500 cars and they get them in/out of work with no problems every day.

bockaaarck

401 posts

170 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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The Honda does look a cracking buy, on the basis of what the OP is after. No harm in having a look OP, you don't have to buy it. If you can compromise, hopefully on as few things as possible, and get a car like that Honda without taking the loan. Then I think you're 'quids in', so to speak.

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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DoubleD said:
Super Slo Mo said:
I thought everyone knew about the sump thingy? They have a problem with clogging oil ways unless they're been run solely on fully synthetic oil.
As far as I knew, a sump drop and clean is highly recommended as the engine can destroy itself which writes the car off as there are pretty much no second hand engines available. For that very reason.
If your into Saabs then you may have heard about the sump problems.
I'm not into Saabs, but did my usual eBay hunting a few weeks ago, since I fancy a different car or bike pretty much every day of the week, followed by a few minutes research. The information is out there, and not difficult to find.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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S10GTA said:
I'm glad you don't like it. It would be a shame to see it owned by someone who would treat it with such contempt.

Go get a white A3 diesel on PCP and then you can impress the neighbours with your flashy car and new number plate.
That's something of a false dichotomy...

Just because you don't like a 20 year old Citroen doesn't mean that you would there want a White A3 diesel.

I wouldn't have either.



danlightbulb

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1,033 posts

108 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Contacted Honda seller first thing this morning. Already sold.

Ghost91

2,975 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Perhaps he's on here and wanted to keep the thread going laugh

3xpendable

230 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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danlightbulb said:
Because £2k is all I have. If its spent on a dog I'm fked. I have no reliable car. I can't get to work. I can't get to see my kids. Understand? £2k is a hell of alot of money to me and its all I have.

It's a big risk buying unseen. You've successfully done it - great for you. Just my luck I do it and get a crapheap. And if that happens then what?



Where did you get your Saab from? What you bought is exactly what I'm looking for. Why would silver dash and a different colour interior all of a sudden be so difficult to find? Why should those two tiny things make the car well over my budget instead of within it like you got?






Edited by danlightbulb on Monday 23 November 00:08
If 2K is all you have, why are you making such a big deal over the colour of a dash or interior over something like reliability and service history? If getting to work and seeing your kids is your top priority (and rightly so), then who gives a fk about the colour of the seats?

Case in point? I was in a similar situation in 2012. I was doing 90 mile round trips to work and my 1993 325i that was everything I wanted in terms of spec suddenly had a load of serious problems. I needed a car quick and ended up with being saved by my brother, who worked at a Vauxhall dealership and had just had in part-ex a 2001 Mk3 Mondeo in with 106,000 miles, FSH and one owner from new. It has a beige interior, laquer peel on one rear wing and a manual when I prefer autos. Did I walk away because it had beige seats? No. It was a cracker of a car and admittedly I got it for less than half its value at the time, but while I still don't like the colour of the seats, it's been a wonderful car that I still have 4 years later, peeling paint and all. Only this year have I upgraded to a 'smart' car for the weekends.

S10GTA

12,786 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Devil2575 said:
S10GTA said:
I'm glad you don't like it. It would be a shame to see it owned by someone who would treat it with such contempt.

Go get a white A3 diesel on PCP and then you can impress the neighbours with your flashy car and new number plate.
That's something of a false dichotomy...

Just because you don't like a 20 year old Citroen doesn't mean that you would there want a White A3 diesel.

I wouldn't have either.
They were two separate statements.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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S10GTA said:
Devil2575 said:
S10GTA said:
I'm glad you don't like it. It would be a shame to see it owned by someone who would treat it with such contempt.

Go get a white A3 diesel on PCP and then you can impress the neighbours with your flashy car and new number plate.
That's something of a false dichotomy...

Just because you don't like a 20 year old Citroen doesn't mean that you would there want a White A3 diesel.

I wouldn't have either.
They were two separate statements.
Ok...I believe you. Thousands wouldn't, but I do. wink

Ghost91

2,975 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Let's be honest Devil, we all know why he's dismissing certain cars.

If you followed his previous threads he only wanted something with a premium badge as an 'upgrade' to the mondeo, so was looking at old 5 series, Audi's, because they had the image.

He's the typical leased boggo diesel audi candidate....

POORCARDEALER

8,528 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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I have bought houses faster...

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Super Slo Mo said:
I'm not into Saabs, but did my usual eBay hunting a few weeks ago, since I fancy a different car or bike pretty much every day of the week, followed by a few minutes research. The information is out there, and not difficult to find.
I'm sure it's not difficult to find that information. But you said you thought everyone knew about the sump problems, like it's common knowledge.

steveo3002

10,568 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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have you got the £2000 ready in your hand for when a car comes up ? if you havent and the car is a good buy then someone else will snap it up

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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DoubleD said:
Super Slo Mo said:
I'm not into Saabs, but did my usual eBay hunting a few weeks ago, since I fancy a different car or bike pretty much every day of the week, followed by a few minutes research. The information is out there, and not difficult to find.
I'm sure it's not difficult to find that information. But you said you thought everyone knew about the sump problems, like it's common knowledge.
I guess so.

I didn't mean it like that of course, I meant that everyone looking at petrol engined Saabs should know, as the first thing we all ought to do when expressing a vague interest in a particular product is have a quick look at what the internet says about them.

So to rephrase a little, it's not common knowledge in general, but to anyone looking at Saabs (petrol at least), it should be. Shouldn't it? smile

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Super Slo Mo said:
I guess so.

I didn't mean it like that of course, I meant that everyone looking at petrol engined Saabs should know, as the first thing we all ought to do when expressing a vague interest in a particular product is have a quick look at what the internet says about them.

So to rephrase a little, it's not common knowledge in general, but to anyone looking at Saabs (petrol at least), it should be. Shouldn't it? smile
Definitely, anyone buying a car should do their home work.

sjc

14,052 posts

272 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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41K miles, all the toys and a lovely sounding quad-cam V6, just ask if the belts have been done.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Megaflow

9,521 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Super Slo Mo said:
Megaflow said:
I'm not quite sure why you have fixated on that car, there are some odd things in the advert I'd want answers to:

1) Owned since August 2013, but new brakes fitted under warranty in September 2015? Two year warrenty on a 10 year old car.
2) Sump drop and clean. That's going a bit far for routine maintenace, unless these have a known issue, if so then I wouldn't be looking at one as my only means on transport if that transport is so crucial.
3) New brakes fitted in November 2014. Did it have the new brakes in November 2014 or September 2015? Or worse, both, indicating a problem with something
4) Alarm batteries low, but new ones included. If it was such an easy fix, why doesn't he fit them and remove it from the problems list.
5) Previous owner self service, including a sump drop, but the is no paperwork. So has the sump been dropped once or twice and we now find it has no service history.

Car's in this price point are a compromise, because they are never going to be perfect. But I wouldn't consider going to look at that, and I'm only a 30 minute drive from it!
I thought everyone knew about the sump thingy? They have a problem with clogging oil ways unless they're been run solely on fully synthetic oil.
As far as I knew, a sump drop and clean is highly recommended as the engine can destroy itself which writes the car off as there are pretty much no second hand engines available. For that very reason.
I wasn't aware of that. Which also reminds me of another point, which I forgot to mention the first time, but is now even more relevant.

The owner says it has always been run on synthetic. Firstly, how can he back this up without a service history and secondly, if it has, why has the sump needed dropping at lest once, if not twice?

OP, ignore this car, there are too many questions hanging over it. Stop getting hung up on badges and get another Mondeo. Which are a damn good car for the budget you have.

MDMA .

9,033 posts

103 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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saab. black leather :http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C245872 - get it bought



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Edited by MDMA . on Tuesday 24th November 12:53