RE: McLaren Speedtail revealed as 250mph trendsetter
Discussion
Rich_W said:
E65Ross said:
Stop saying it looks ridiculous as if it's a fact?
I'm not sure which meme suits you betteror
You like it, great, I'm sure McLaren are well aware of your desire to quash any and all criticisms of any product that comes out of Woking.
Lots of people don't like it though because, well quite frankly, it looks ridiculous with that long tail*.
*Ironically this IS a LongTail. But because they used that nomenclature a touch prematurely on the 675 and more recently 600 they can't really use it for this car
Time to move on.
0a said:
What an incredible looking thing.
It makes every other modern McLaren look boring and dated.
+2It makes every other modern McLaren look boring and dated.
And most other angry, image conscious supercars these days. I feel you could have a good conversation with
an owner of a car like this, even at the PP. Favorite 'Hypercar' released in a long time.
G0ldfysh said:
I liked how the headlights opened on the Gina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBkY_q60JAY
that's so cute! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBkY_q60JAY
As with most modern McLaren's, the engineering is top notch but the looks leave a lot to be desired. Yes I understand form over function but surely the really tricky bit of car design, especially for a road car is to combine form WITH function. I just don't lust after any modern McLaren like I do an F1 which is a 30 year old design now, says it all really.
Of course they are all sold, they are only making 106 and there will be a lot more rich people in the world than that who will want to own the worlds fastest car, despite it's challenging looks, purely for the bragging rights.
Of course they are all sold, they are only making 106 and there will be a lot more rich people in the world than that who will want to own the worlds fastest car, despite it's challenging looks, purely for the bragging rights.
Guvernator said:
... Yes I understand form over function...
It's marketing guff. It's not like Porsche/Ferrari/Lambo/Aston/Pagani/Bugatti/Hennessey don't function! Hats off to McLaren; they've created an brand around their engineering so successfully you could be forgiven for thinking the rest don't actually employ any engineers.Rich_W said:
I like the flexible "hidden" spoilers though. But then I wonder why they didn't use the same tech for the rear view cameras. Some here will remembers BMWs "Gina" Concept Car
Totally Off Topic, but am I the only one to remember that section of Gina ?Now where have I seen that before...........London Olympics Logo, maybe ?
Pereldh said:
I happen to know when the exterior in digitial form was released so I understand why fit & finish of this prototype is a bit so-so - it was built over only a few months!
Just watched the top gear video review of it and there is lots of poorly finished parts. Edited by Pereldh on Monday 29th October 15:55
Sure they built it quickly.
Why? Why did they feel the need to show off such a poorly finished example?
Honestly my first impression of the car was a bit underwhelming, but it has really really grown on me. I think having seen the teaser images the overall shape of the car wasn't that much of a surprise to me and that did spoil the reveal a little bit. The front end I thought, looked almost unfinished but I now really like how clean it is, the brand face is there but softened. The cockpit with the gear selector in the roof is bonkers, all that's missing with this car is a flight stick and wings! The side view is pure exotica. I wonder what they have hidden in the rump? Those look like pop up flaps like the Pagani Huayra has.
fblm said:
RobDickinson said:
... I guess you'll drive it once a week...
For the first month maybe, before being tucked up in storage with your two dozen other supercars... I'd love to know who got allocated these and where they'll all end up! Any PHers?Maldini35 said:
It’s not about quashing criticism - forums are for debate -
To the vast majority of people, Yes. To you and E65Ross. Clearly not Like a pair of paid Russian bots
However, whilst everything McLaren produce is no doubt brilliant to drive (on track) My points are purely looks/design based. Not capability.
You have to consider that 720s was weirdly styled "for performance"
Senna is just plain ugly but "for performance"
Speedtail is just ridiculous looking* "for performance"
Also these 3 cars are so very different looks wise you wonder why they don't stick to a design language for a few models.
Interesting that when P1 was launched there was a far more universal love for the looks and the phrase "Function over Form" didn't sound like an excuse
12C still stands as a high point in terms of simplicity. And also you could see the evolution of design from the mighty F1 (especially if it had the roof snorkel)
* YMMV
You know what I really wanted to see from McLaren when it came to do a long distance GT?
Engine in front of the occupants, big boot that can carry enough luggage for a long weekend away and space for some French cases to bring back. The standardish formula for a GT that Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston et al adhere to. I'd much rather see them push their ideas in a different direction from the run of mid engine cars they've fallen into
This is obviously a render, 720s meets Ferrari I guess, but wouldn't it be refreshing? Modified version of the carbon tub, get that V8TT under that hood too. Gearbox at the back, Torque tube. Slightly more luxurious interior, top speed of 210-220. Big fuel tank for a decent range. Job nicely done
ETA Found another
At least its different :thumbs:
(Snipped part is because I explained this to you in August and you said you'd stay on your naughty step. But clearly you fell off it, and continue to misrepresent the facts to say my pov is irrelevant. You do love an Ad Hom don't you. So classy )
Edited by Rich_W on Monday 29th October 22:19
Rich_W said:
Maldini35 said:
It’s not about quashing criticism - forums are for debate -
To the vast majority of people, Yes. To you and E65Ross. Clearly not Like a pair of paid Russian bots
However, whilst everything McLaren produce is no doubt brilliant to drive (on track) My points are purely looks/design based. Not capability.
You have to consider that 720s was weirdly styled "for performance"
Senna is just plain ugly but "for performance"
Speedtail is just ridiculous looking* "for performance"
Also these 3 cars are so very different looks wise you wonder why they don't stick to a design language for a few models.
Interesting that when P1 was launched there was a far more universal love for the looks and the phrase "Function over Form" didn't sound like an excuse
12C still stands as a high point in terms of simplicity. And also you could see the evolution of design from the mighty F1 (especially if it had the roof snorkel)
* YMMV
You know what I really wanted to see from McLaren when it came to do a long distance GT?
Engine in front of the occupants, big boot that can carry enough luggage for a long weekend away and space for some French cases to bring back. The standardish formula for a GT that Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston et al adhere to. I'd much rather see them push their ideas in a different direction from the run of mid engine cars they've fallen into
This is obviously a render, 720s meets Ferrari I guess, but wouldn't it be refreshing? Modified version of the carbon tub, get that V8TT under that hood too. Gearbox at the back, Torque tube. Slightly more luxurious interior, top speed of 210-220. Big fuel tank for a decent range. Job nicely done
ETA Found another
At least its different :thumbs:
(Snipped part is because I explained this to you in August and you said you'd stay on your naughty step. But clearly you fell off it, and continue to misrepresent the facts to say my pov is irrelevant. You do love an Ad Hom don't you. So classy )
Edited by Rich_W on Monday 29th October 22:19
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