RE: Porsche Taycan | Official reveal!
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PistonTim said:
gigglebug said:
E65Ross said:
Did you ask him where the turbocharger was, or how it worked without one!?
head!!
DonkeyApple said:
Don’t Vauxhall slap ‘Turbo’ on the back of an Astra these days?
Turbos are pretty dull these days. They are just legal and accountancy tools to fudge numbers. At least Porsche have tried to keep the word more synonymous with the nutter engineers of long ago who used turbos to add fun and lunacy to cars rather than to help Leslie and Graham our with their hypermiling.
They do, but it does actually have a turbo!Turbos are pretty dull these days. They are just legal and accountancy tools to fudge numbers. At least Porsche have tried to keep the word more synonymous with the nutter engineers of long ago who used turbos to add fun and lunacy to cars rather than to help Leslie and Graham our with their hypermiling.
gigglebug said:
E65Ross said:
Did you ask him where the turbocharger was, or how it worked without one!?head!!
gigglebug said:
I saw a man in the local supermarket with these in his trolly a couple of days ago. I couldn't work out why they neither had a turbo or couldn't do mach 3. It made my head hurt. Nothing worse than false advertising.
Is the fact it’s called turbo and turbo s really worth so many pages of asking the same thing over and over 
It’s called a turbo because that’s what Porsche wanted to call it. Having this layered on top of the usual EV haters bile and the usual EV evangelist bluster is making this thread a right snooze fest
It’s called a turbo because that’s what Porsche wanted to call it. Having this layered on top of the usual EV haters bile and the usual EV evangelist bluster is making this thread a right snooze fest
There's a lot of comments about the pricing but given Porsche's position in the VAG hierarchy, along with the inherent costs of producing a new model with a fair few new supply chain components, it seem's a bit naive to think they would be a direct pricing rival to Tesla's offerings. When Audi's EV range really starts to get pushed and that filters to VW... and eventually Skoda/Seat etc. then I would expect we'll see much cheaper models.
One thing I'm interested in is how the premium (read performance) brands will be able to differentiate themselves from the masses when the EV powertrain is so easy to plug in from a number of 3rd party suppliers and almost any manufacturer can produce a car that has supercar performance for "relatively" accessible cost.
One thing I'm interested in is how the premium (read performance) brands will be able to differentiate themselves from the masses when the EV powertrain is so easy to plug in from a number of 3rd party suppliers and almost any manufacturer can produce a car that has supercar performance for "relatively" accessible cost.
Greggsybabe said:
There's a lot of comments about the pricing but given Porsche's position in the VAG hierarchy, along with the inherent costs of producing a new model with a fair few new supply chain components, it seem's a bit naive to think they would be a direct pricing rival to Tesla's offerings. When Audi's EV range really starts to get pushed and that filters to VW... and eventually Skoda/Seat etc. then I would expect we'll see much cheaper models.
One thing I'm interested in is how the premium (read performance) brands will be able to differentiate themselves from the masses when the EV powertrain is so easy to plug in from a number of 3rd party suppliers and almost any manufacturer can produce a car that has supercar performance for "relatively" accessible cost.
Branding, lifestyle association and celebrity endorsement, the same as all the other generic tat that needs to be flogged to idiots at huge mark up. One thing I'm interested in is how the premium (read performance) brands will be able to differentiate themselves from the masses when the EV powertrain is so easy to plug in from a number of 3rd party suppliers and almost any manufacturer can produce a car that has supercar performance for "relatively" accessible cost.
DonkeyApple said:
Greggsybabe said:
There's a lot of comments about the pricing but given Porsche's position in the VAG hierarchy, along with the inherent costs of producing a new model with a fair few new supply chain components, it seem's a bit naive to think they would be a direct pricing rival to Tesla's offerings. When Audi's EV range really starts to get pushed and that filters to VW... and eventually Skoda/Seat etc. then I would expect we'll see much cheaper models.
One thing I'm interested in is how the premium (read performance) brands will be able to differentiate themselves from the masses when the EV powertrain is so easy to plug in from a number of 3rd party suppliers and almost any manufacturer can produce a car that has supercar performance for "relatively" accessible cost.
Branding, lifestyle association and celebrity endorsement, the same as all the other generic tat that needs to be flogged to idiots at huge mark up. One thing I'm interested in is how the premium (read performance) brands will be able to differentiate themselves from the masses when the EV powertrain is so easy to plug in from a number of 3rd party suppliers and almost any manufacturer can produce a car that has supercar performance for "relatively" accessible cost.
Otherwise we would be all driving a base spec Dacia's, it will be interesting to see if there are cheap hypercar performance type vehicles but it will still apply that if the car has massive performance the restof it needs to be designed to cope, its simpler than before to make a car go very fast, a 600 bhp electric Dacia Duster but it isnt quite that simple.
I think the cheaper competition will come from the startup companies.
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