Clocking widespread
Discussion
Dog Star said:
Oh? Well I'd dispute the opinion of a lot of people in the motor trade until such people can clean their act up, stop clocking cars, quoting for work that's not needed, not replacing marked parts etc - all my own first hand experience. Basically STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF!
The same goes for MOTPs that clock their cars prior to annual services and handing back cars on PCPs. It's the proliferation of those, personal contract hire and the existence of punitive excess mileage charges that means many people will spend a few £ on "mileage correction" to avoid EM bills that run well into four figures otherwise. Likewise private hire drivers winding cars back from 400k+ to high 100ks and chucking them through auction halls. How many times have you read on here of people who have a problem with their car taking the "just PX it and hope the dealer doesn't notice" course of action. Full disclosure should work both ways, but in my experience some categories of people outside the motor trade are every bit as guilty of "ripping people off" and dealers hate getting stitched up as much as you do.
"Joe Public" is not always an innocent victim. One doesn't justify the other of course, but to think the entire motor trade is out to "rip people off' is a hugely blinkered and naïve attitude to hold.
Always buy on condition over claimed mileage.
Efbe said:
Next time I go to look at a car I will be finding out how to do this on the model I go to see, and whether the seller likes it or not I will see if it changes.
That owner may not have been the one that clocked it though, so you've just added miles and "devalued" the car they bought in good faith accordingly. I would think that might turn rather messy with them seeking some form of redress against you. Tricky. V8mate said:
As long as there's a device capturing them - analogue or digital - there'll be people fiddling them.
Someone needs to invent an irreplaceable part which wears down over time, possibly which disappears completely at 150k(?), so that you know the vehicle/engine have done their time. Fit a new engine and it comes with a new part - you wouldn't know the miles/hours the complete car had achieved but you'd know the history of the key element.
What they need is a set of efuses that burn off every 10k, these are hard to replace.. They use then in xboxes etc to st people downgrading the firmware, and that part of protection has worked.. Someone needs to invent an irreplaceable part which wears down over time, possibly which disappears completely at 150k(?), so that you know the vehicle/engine have done their time. Fit a new engine and it comes with a new part - you wouldn't know the miles/hours the complete car had achieved but you'd know the history of the key element.
Zwoelf said:
Efbe said:
Next time I go to look at a car I will be finding out how to do this on the model I go to see, and whether the seller likes it or not I will see if it changes.
That owner may not have been the one that clocked it though, so you've just added miles and "devalued" the car they bought in good faith accordingly. I would think that might turn rather messy with them seeking some form of redress against you. Tricky. also what redress should they get? and why?
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