Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 15]
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LetsTryAgain said:
Emeye said:
I am wondering if I have done the right thing.
I got carried away when the amazing family battle barge, a 2003 Volvo XC90 D5 with 160kish miles on the clock, went into my friend's garage to have the second ABS reluctor ring in a year replaced - occasionally if goes into limp mode due to a suspected stick variable-vane turbo, and there is a graunching noise at low speed on full lock.
I am now in up to the elbow - £950 with a new battery, new MAF sensor, all new engine mounts, a cleaned turbo and a new reluctor ring.
It is probably worth £2- 2500 tops but I couldn't help myself as it is such a great large family wagon, and it gets such a battering that spending £10-£15k on a newer Mk1 XC90, which is the only possible replacement as far as I can tell, seems excessive, especially when the newer ones are less economical and supposedly less reliable thanks to emissions gubbins.
If the mechanical bits are all sorted, I just don't see the point of shiny unblemished interior or paintwork, yet at such a high mileage and low value, a lunched gearbox or diff probably means the scrapyard. I feel like I am in that awkward place where having spent so much on an old car it becomes even harder to decide when to let go.
To make myself feel better, I am telling myself that even a newer one could have an expensive issue.
The cheapest car is invariably the one you already own.I got carried away when the amazing family battle barge, a 2003 Volvo XC90 D5 with 160kish miles on the clock, went into my friend's garage to have the second ABS reluctor ring in a year replaced - occasionally if goes into limp mode due to a suspected stick variable-vane turbo, and there is a graunching noise at low speed on full lock.
I am now in up to the elbow - £950 with a new battery, new MAF sensor, all new engine mounts, a cleaned turbo and a new reluctor ring.
It is probably worth £2- 2500 tops but I couldn't help myself as it is such a great large family wagon, and it gets such a battering that spending £10-£15k on a newer Mk1 XC90, which is the only possible replacement as far as I can tell, seems excessive, especially when the newer ones are less economical and supposedly less reliable thanks to emissions gubbins.
If the mechanical bits are all sorted, I just don't see the point of shiny unblemished interior or paintwork, yet at such a high mileage and low value, a lunched gearbox or diff probably means the scrapyard. I feel like I am in that awkward place where having spent so much on an old car it becomes even harder to decide when to let go.
To make myself feel better, I am telling myself that even a newer one could have an expensive issue.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I disagree when that car is a BMW 745i and you're changing to a Corolla, but you knew that already, as I may have mentioned it a few (hundred) times
My 57 plate dirty Honda 2.2 Cdti has swallowed a few quid so far this year, only a clutch and flywheel would make me reconsider keeping it.
Why the dislike of the A8? 2005 4.0 looks very grown up at thread max with only 53k on, although the driver’s seat hasn’t worn it well. Link suggests been for sale forever.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Macron said:
Why the dislike of the A8? 2005 4.0 looks very grown up at thread max with only 53k on, although the driver’s seat hasn’t worn it well. Link suggests been for sale forever.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I really like this era of A8. I gather they're not all that reliable, but who knows?! Well.... Previous owners, I guess... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Maybe not as nice/honest as the previous one I posted at similar money but this is a lovely colour and despite Cat N it’s a lot of metal on your drive within thread budget:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
I read a while back that Prinny was thinking of selling his 760 or did I just imagine that? Would love a 760!
Was just about to pull an ad together for my r129, (I know, awful time of the year to sell) and it looks as though the passenger side window regulator is on its way out! I swear cars can sense when they’re about to be sold!
Was just about to pull an ad together for my r129, (I know, awful time of the year to sell) and it looks as though the passenger side window regulator is on its way out! I swear cars can sense when they’re about to be sold!
dscam said:
Maybe not as nice/honest as the previous one I posted at similar money but this is a lovely colour and despite Cat N it’s a lot of metal on your drive within thread budget:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Seems too much to me.https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
Great colour though.
Edited by LetsTryAgain on Monday 25th November 21:35
ian316 said:
MJK 24 said:
ian316 said:
Yep it seems the 1st owner got it as a retirement present and just pottered about in it £1500 to anyone on here
I take it that it’s automatic? What’s the bodywork like, above and below? Is it cursed with the light grey interior like my 190? 
stickleback123 said:
Krikkit said:
Subaru were exactly the same - their boxer diesel was terrible, and very late to market.
Honda did quite a good job with the 2.2, but again it took them a long time to get it to market, and it felt a little like they didn't want it to exist.
I'd forgotten about that hopeless boxer diesel. Honda did quite a good job with the 2.2, but again it took them a long time to get it to market, and it felt a little like they didn't want it to exist.
The Honda 2.2 was good, felt far faster than it was, but I never drove a Civic 2.2 that didn't slip its clutch! They managed without a DPF on the Gen 8 Civic in the UK when everyone else needed one though, which would be a big positive in a shed.
cat220 said:
I read a while back that Prinny was thinking of selling his 760 or did I just imagine that? Would love a 760!
Was just about to pull an ad together for my r129, (I know, awful time of the year to sell) and it looks as though the passenger side window regulator is on its way out! I swear cars can sense when they’re about to be sold!
I think Prinny was missing about selling his M6 and 760, possibly to fund a 500E? Was just about to pull an ad together for my r129, (I know, awful time of the year to sell) and it looks as though the passenger side window regulator is on its way out! I swear cars can sense when they’re about to be sold!
I know what you mean about them knowing they're being sold, the number of times I've had a big expenditure as soon as the as goes live. Then there's that time I was literally driving to drop one off with a new owner and it went squiffy.
LetsTryAgain said:
Emeye said:
I am wondering if I have done the right thing.
I got carried away when the amazing family battle barge, a 2003 Volvo XC90 D5 with 160kish miles on the clock, went into my friend's garage to have the second ABS reluctor ring in a year replaced - occasionally if goes into limp mode due to a suspected stick variable-vane turbo, and there is a graunching noise at low speed on full lock.
I am now in up to the elbow - £950 with a new battery, new MAF sensor, all new engine mounts, a cleaned turbo and a new reluctor ring.
It is probably worth £2- 2500 tops but I couldn't help myself as it is such a great large family wagon, and it gets such a battering that spending £10-£15k on a newer Mk1 XC90, which is the only possible replacement as far as I can tell, seems excessive, especially when the newer ones are less economical and supposedly less reliable thanks to emissions gubbins.
If the mechanical bits are all sorted, I just don't see the point of shiny unblemished interior or paintwork, yet at such a high mileage and low value, a lunched gearbox or diff probably means the scrapyard. I feel like I am in that awkward place where having spent so much on an old car it becomes even harder to decide when to let go.
To make myself feel better, I am telling myself that even a newer one could have an expensive issue.
The cheapest car is invariably the one you already own.I got carried away when the amazing family battle barge, a 2003 Volvo XC90 D5 with 160kish miles on the clock, went into my friend's garage to have the second ABS reluctor ring in a year replaced - occasionally if goes into limp mode due to a suspected stick variable-vane turbo, and there is a graunching noise at low speed on full lock.
I am now in up to the elbow - £950 with a new battery, new MAF sensor, all new engine mounts, a cleaned turbo and a new reluctor ring.
It is probably worth £2- 2500 tops but I couldn't help myself as it is such a great large family wagon, and it gets such a battering that spending £10-£15k on a newer Mk1 XC90, which is the only possible replacement as far as I can tell, seems excessive, especially when the newer ones are less economical and supposedly less reliable thanks to emissions gubbins.
If the mechanical bits are all sorted, I just don't see the point of shiny unblemished interior or paintwork, yet at such a high mileage and low value, a lunched gearbox or diff probably means the scrapyard. I feel like I am in that awkward place where having spent so much on an old car it becomes even harder to decide when to let go.
To make myself feel better, I am telling myself that even a newer one could have an expensive issue.
As long as you’re not chasing the tin worm and it is functional, presentable, enjoyable and safe enough there’s no reason not to deny triggers broom.
The recent epic £9k estate thread threw up real value for money motors.
I can’t say I’m looking fwd to having to replace my 11year old bargey devils fuel merc. The thing is it’s so competent (touch wood). The plan is to keep it for many moons.
"Are you talking to me?"
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Plus 99 pictures of a Saab.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Plus 99 pictures of a Saab.
Jimmy Recard said:
Updates, if anyone is interested! Long, rambly post, so TL;DR, my brother really likes the Lexus IS220d, despite the horror stories.
We've been to see an IS220d (I checked it as thoroughly as I could and drove it; no sign of any problems at all). Oil and coolant looked clean and no sign of odd smoke. As smooth/rough as any other four cylinder diesel and it had the sort of power I'd expect. Compared to an E90 320d that I used to drive regularly, it seemed about right.
We've also been to see an S60 2.0T. I have to say that I liked both cars, but my brother definitely preferred the Lexus. Bugger.
I've thoroughly talked him through the pitfalls of these cars from doing a lot of research and the information on this thread, but he says for the price he's happy to risk it. It doesn't have to last long to break even vs leasing something and if it lasts a couple of years, that's a bonus.
Lovely interior (one of the best I've seen in that segment), great seats and just generally a nice car. I noticed the odd gear ratios but they didn't bother me. I did the test drive as he said I would be more likely to spot any faults.
He's not a car person. He's coming from a shed Corsa C 1.2 that he has been driving for seven years and has satisfied him completely. He has been abroad in it and used it for everything. So stuff like gear ratios and a slightly rough engine wouldn't really register with him!
He just wants something a bit bigger and more comfortable now. He knows that it could cost more to maintain as it's a bigger, more expensive car with more complication and more expensive parts. He knows that it could blow up, but is willing to take the risk.
I suppose that saving £400 in tax vs the IS250 and £110 in insurance means he already has £500 in hand to sort issues, even before the fuel cost is taken into account. So now he has his heart set on it, I suppose I have to find him a good one. I'm seeing him again this evening, so I think we should sit down and do some maths based on his mileage and whether we should get him an IS250 instead. He does fancy an automatic so I might be able to sway him that way
buy an auto pre 09 IS250 and it's under 300 to tax. We've been to see an IS220d (I checked it as thoroughly as I could and drove it; no sign of any problems at all). Oil and coolant looked clean and no sign of odd smoke. As smooth/rough as any other four cylinder diesel and it had the sort of power I'd expect. Compared to an E90 320d that I used to drive regularly, it seemed about right.
We've also been to see an S60 2.0T. I have to say that I liked both cars, but my brother definitely preferred the Lexus. Bugger.
I've thoroughly talked him through the pitfalls of these cars from doing a lot of research and the information on this thread, but he says for the price he's happy to risk it. It doesn't have to last long to break even vs leasing something and if it lasts a couple of years, that's a bonus.
Lovely interior (one of the best I've seen in that segment), great seats and just generally a nice car. I noticed the odd gear ratios but they didn't bother me. I did the test drive as he said I would be more likely to spot any faults.
He's not a car person. He's coming from a shed Corsa C 1.2 that he has been driving for seven years and has satisfied him completely. He has been abroad in it and used it for everything. So stuff like gear ratios and a slightly rough engine wouldn't really register with him!
He just wants something a bit bigger and more comfortable now. He knows that it could cost more to maintain as it's a bigger, more expensive car with more complication and more expensive parts. He knows that it could blow up, but is willing to take the risk.
I suppose that saving £400 in tax vs the IS250 and £110 in insurance means he already has £500 in hand to sort issues, even before the fuel cost is taken into account. So now he has his heart set on it, I suppose I have to find him a good one. I'm seeing him again this evening, so I think we should sit down and do some maths based on his mileage and whether we should get him an IS250 instead. He does fancy an automatic so I might be able to sway him that way
Macron said:
Why the dislike of the A8? 2005 4.0 looks very grown up at thread max with only 53k on, although the driver’s seat hasn’t worn it well. Link suggests been for sale forever.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Before reading this ad I would have said "4.0 - that's the TDI", but Autotrader have it as a petrol, as do the DVLA (3967cc petrol). Wikipedia doesn't list a 4.0, Honest John makes no mention either. Anyone care to enlighten me?https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
BeirutTaxi said:
Verbiage aside, it does look a fairly proper car for the money and tbf I can't see values not rising for good uns.mondayo said:
"Are you talking to me?"
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Plus 99 pictures of a Saab.
And despite getting threateningly close around the early 80's, not one of those 99 extra pics shows the driver's seat bolster. FFS...https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Plus 99 pictures of a Saab.
Still, milky headlights aside, they are ever increasing in appeal, especially pre Mar 06!
BeirutTaxi said:
Nope fairly sure that's a well known eBay seller that's been featured a few times before, uses the same guff on everything they sell. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff