Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)
Discussion
Raduno said:
Definitely. I went Premium recently because i was getting two adverts back to back at the start, much greater frequency of ads at the moment.
I pay for enough things online: netflix, amazon prime, audible, spotify so youtube is a big NO! That reminds me, amazon has got much more expensive in the last year and I rarely watch anything on amazon video streaming, so that is going next. Quite a few times ive searched for the same product on ebay and it's been much cheaper than amazon in the last 12-18 months. People have become wise to it too - their big sale days had gradual price rises in the weeks before it so the sale price was often exactly the same as the price was 6 weeks prior! The cheek!johnwilliams77 said:
The volume of adverts on youtube appears to have increased significantly. I normally listen to some of the videos whilst doing something else and so it's quite annoying. There are plenty of other things I can listen to without adverts (spotify, audiobooks) so I find myself switching it off more lately. I suppose they want me to buy the non advert premium service but I can live without the videos quite easily as none of them are particularly exciting anymore (chris harris ones used to be my favourite).
found out recently from a friend whos got a large youtube channel doing other types of activities that if you dont put many adverts on your videos youtube holds them back & promotes videos with more adverts on. hence why i myself starting to put 3 adds on videos. Trying to do anything really to get new followers in but with how saturated it is now its very hard i find doing relatively normal ish type videos.
aji621 said:
found out recently from a friend whos got a large youtube channel doing other types of activities that if you dont put many adverts on your videos youtube holds them back & promotes videos with more adverts on. hence why i myself starting to put 3 adds on videos.
Trying to do anything really to get new followers in but with how saturated it is now its very hard i find doing relatively normal ish type videos.
Is it really saturated?Trying to do anything really to get new followers in but with how saturated it is now its very hard i find doing relatively normal ish type videos.
If you ignore all the look at me I got finance on a car o can't really afford and am going to drive it around public roads like the stig channels and look for genuine fresh content... It's not saturated.
Hubnut
Jay em on cars
Danny dc2
Pretty much all I watch car wise now.
Bennyjames28 said:
aji621 said:
found out recently from a friend whos got a large youtube channel doing other types of activities that if you dont put many adverts on your videos youtube holds them back & promotes videos with more adverts on. hence why i myself starting to put 3 adds on videos.
Trying to do anything really to get new followers in but with how saturated it is now its very hard i find doing relatively normal ish type videos.
Is it really saturated?Trying to do anything really to get new followers in but with how saturated it is now its very hard i find doing relatively normal ish type videos.
If you ignore all the look at me I got finance on a car o can't really afford and am going to drive it around public roads like the stig channels and look for genuine fresh content... It's not saturated.
Hubnut
Jay em on cars
Danny dc2
Pretty much all I watch car wise now.
We're the minority, unfortunately.
My brother runs a relatively successful gaming channel (40k subscribers for Warframe videos, whatever that is) and he was using it as his only income stream, and he said that there's a distinct difference in performance of videos with clickbait titles, to those without. It's a really shame.
aji621 said:
found out recently from a friend whos got a large youtube channel doing other types of activities that if you dont put many adverts on your videos youtube holds them back & promotes videos with more adverts on. hence why i myself starting to put 3 adds on videos.
I've a very strong feeling this is one of those things which would make sense, but doesn't actually exist. People just like to think it does.Staggered by how popular Salomondrin’s ‘Salomundo’
Spanish speaking channel is doing.
Going less than a year and has 2 million subs, while every video is getting over a million views.
Given it has taken him 7yrs to get his main channel to 1.3m subs he must be kicking himself that he didn’t start Salomundo sooner!
Spanish speaking channel is doing.
Going less than a year and has 2 million subs, while every video is getting over a million views.
Given it has taken him 7yrs to get his main channel to 1.3m subs he must be kicking himself that he didn’t start Salomundo sooner!
Raduno said:
That’s Beefy!Bennyjames28 said:
Is it really saturated?
If you ignore all the look at me I got finance on a car o can't really afford and am going to drive it around public roads like the stig channels and look for genuine fresh content... It's not saturated.
Hubnut
Jay em on cars
Danny dc2
Pretty much all I watch car wise now.
Without plugging my stuff and getting banned, may i ask if youve ever seen one of my videos ? If you have, what makes you not want to watch again? if you dont mind me asking & if know who i am obviously. If you ignore all the look at me I got finance on a car o can't really afford and am going to drive it around public roads like the stig channels and look for genuine fresh content... It's not saturated.
Hubnut
Jay em on cars
Danny dc2
Pretty much all I watch car wise now.
Anyone watch Supercar Blondie?
For some reason she kept popping up on my suggested videos. Decided to give her a whirl.
I had to turn off when i heard her pronunciation of Bahrain. There's no blonde hair or tight jeans in the world blonde enough or tight enough for me to endure that. She does seem to get access to some cracking cars though.....
For some reason she kept popping up on my suggested videos. Decided to give her a whirl.
I had to turn off when i heard her pronunciation of Bahrain. There's no blonde hair or tight jeans in the world blonde enough or tight enough for me to endure that. She does seem to get access to some cracking cars though.....
Enjoyed SOL's latest video of him collecting his LP640. I thought he did a very good job of capturing the schoolboy's excitement of actually buying your dream car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIZ5_sO0xE
Looking forward to the road-trip videos, and even the inevitable wrap/exhaust/spoiler ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIZ5_sO0xE
Looking forward to the road-trip videos, and even the inevitable wrap/exhaust/spoiler ones.
Just watched 2 guys on a road trip from Florida to Alaska in a Forester and Mitsu Evo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPm6RPmI5_A
Enjoyable, fantastic videography, normal sounding voices and normal guy - a refreshing change from the glutteral adenoidal tones on UK channels. But most of all, they enjoyed the journey rather than the destination. The destination for most UK Toobers is to produce clicks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPm6RPmI5_A
Enjoyable, fantastic videography, normal sounding voices and normal guy - a refreshing change from the glutteral adenoidal tones on UK channels. But most of all, they enjoyed the journey rather than the destination. The destination for most UK Toobers is to produce clicks.
RobDown said:
Raduno said:
That’s Beefy!Noodle1982 said:
Anyone watch Supercar Blondie?
For some reason she kept popping up on my suggested videos. Decided to give her a whirl.
I had to turn off when i heard her pronunciation of Bahrain. There's no blonde hair or tight jeans in the world blonde enough or tight enough for me to endure that. She does seem to get access to some cracking cars though.....
She is a journalist by trade and was a very popular radio DJ in U.A.E hence her level of access. Most of her content seems to involve revving the nuts off cars and 'driving them' five feet out the showroom. That Martini Guy can clue you in to her appeal, a large chunk of her fanbae eems o comprise of mysognistical (sic?) mouthbreathers whacking one out over their keyboard judging by the comments. For some reason she kept popping up on my suggested videos. Decided to give her a whirl.
I had to turn off when i heard her pronunciation of Bahrain. There's no blonde hair or tight jeans in the world blonde enough or tight enough for me to endure that. She does seem to get access to some cracking cars though.....
I think Miss Emma Walsh is much more watchable - she's atually done her race license ad s competing in the Mini Challenge, shes a bona-fide petrol head and has some serous talrnt behind the wheel so isn't afraid to spank the nuts off a Ferrari, and has a tendancy to drive eerything like she stole it, she also seems to run her channel with more integrity and is a good example of what happens when you don't clickbait and spam filler content - under 50k subs and a fraction of he views. She also suffers the torrent of comments about her gender showing how hard it is for women to break into the little boys club despite our gender enlightened times.
She deserves a shout out for doing something different to the buy/wrap/sell with her racing and comes across as a genuinly nice person who loves cars.
sorry for typos, grand spent on an ipad pro thingy and the touchscreen is trash.
easytiger123 said:
Enjoyed SOL's latest video of him collecting his LP640. I thought he did a very good job of capturing the schoolboy's excitement of actually buying your dream car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIZ5_sO0xE
Looking forward to the road-trip videos, and even the inevitable wrap/exhaust/spoiler ones.
Agreed, the best SOL episode I've seen in a very long time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIZ5_sO0xE
Looking forward to the road-trip videos, and even the inevitable wrap/exhaust/spoiler ones.
johnwilliams77 said:
I pay for enough things online: netflix, amazon prime, audible, spotify so youtube is a big NO! That reminds me, amazon has got much more expensive in the last year and I rarely watch anything on amazon video streaming, so that is going next. Quite a few times ive searched for the same product on ebay and it's been much cheaper than amazon in the last 12-18 months. People have become wise to it too - their big sale days had gradual price rises in the weeks before it so the sale price was often exactly the same as the price was 6 weeks prior! The cheek!
B&Q were masters of the price rise preceding the sale price years ago man , nothing new here.jon- said:
I've a very strong feeling this is one of those things which would make sense, but doesn't actually exist. People just like to think it does.
It doesn't actually work like that - I worked at Google and the ads are actually matched on a number of factors based on the campaign goals. The rank sorting is fed by a number of factors - new content ranks highest, and gets a number of 'points' based on view count, vuew duration, and velocity. Consistency is key - you need a growing volume of views on a hourly basis and it pays to spread your other social media promotion links apart to 'feed' new views over the first day or two in tranches rather than one big hit, as the video ages each view point reduces in value, and views become less valuable as the video ages which is why you see the most visibility on a 3 video a week release schedule as typically the cliff starts after 3 days and the hew release juices it again. Fully watched videos are deemed to be 'engaging' content and ads that get lower skips get bonus points than those with an ad unfriendly audience. Contrary to belief dislikes weigh as much as likes - youtube understands that content that strongly polarises opinion (eg the COD launch video that set a dislike record) promote engagement better than 'meh' content with poor engagement. Negative comments and trolls actually help you better than gushing praise - comments that trigger replie conversations are worth more than regular comments as again. it promotes engagement and shows deeper level audience interest. Finally there is googles all conquering keyword analytics that comb the content for keywords using their machine learning and determine an audience profile, they then promote that video to other users that have expressed strongly positive and strongly negative comments to promote engagement through polarisation. Contrary to belief the ranking system isn't a winner takrs all - the engine is highly tailored to individual users tastes which is why if you catch the tail of a hot nice your channel can catch fire - the process is about audience matching, but to achieve the best results from a SEO aspect you need to develop the commentary on the video - the more data points the audience provides the bigger audience the algos can curate against based on building a profile. Thats really been the key to TGE's rise - all those banal yepyepyep catchphrases etc has driven his comments engagement through the roof.
And obviously once they've built an audience profile they are better able to match ad inventory so you get more ad placements, and specifically ad inventory will be matched to what the user is interested in so attracting an audience that is aligned to a high spending ad segment is quite important and why travel, lifestyle, business, real estate and fashion channels out-earn channels with low spend view demographics - also quite important to attract a audience in high value countries where ad inventory is priced higher.
nyxster said:
She is a journalist by trade and was a very popular radio DJ in U.A.E hence her level of access. Most of her content seems to involve revving the nuts off cars and 'driving them' five feet out the showroom. That Martini Guy can clue you in to her appeal, a large chunk of her fanbae eems o comprise of mysognistical (sic?) mouthbreathers whacking one out over their keyboard judging by the comments.
I think Miss Emma Walsh is much more watchable - she's atually done her race license ad s competing in the Mini Challenge, shes a bona-fide petrol head and has some serous talrnt behind the wheel so isn't afraid to spank the nuts off a Ferrari, and has a tendancy to drive eerything like she stole it, she also seems to run her channel with more integrity and is a good example of what happens when you don't clickbait and spam filler content - under 50k subs and a fraction of he views. She also suffers the torrent of comments about her gender showing how hard it is for women to break into the little boys club despite our gender enlightened times.
She deserves a shout out for doing something different to the buy/wrap/sell with her racing and comes across as a genuinly nice person who loves cars.
sorry for typos, grand spent on an ipad pro thingy and the touchscreen is trash.
Emma’s content does seem to be improving a lot recently, beating Archie at his own game with the racing stuff!I think Miss Emma Walsh is much more watchable - she's atually done her race license ad s competing in the Mini Challenge, shes a bona-fide petrol head and has some serous talrnt behind the wheel so isn't afraid to spank the nuts off a Ferrari, and has a tendancy to drive eerything like she stole it, she also seems to run her channel with more integrity and is a good example of what happens when you don't clickbait and spam filler content - under 50k subs and a fraction of he views. She also suffers the torrent of comments about her gender showing how hard it is for women to break into the little boys club despite our gender enlightened times.
She deserves a shout out for doing something different to the buy/wrap/sell with her racing and comes across as a genuinly nice person who loves cars.
sorry for typos, grand spent on an ipad pro thingy and the touchscreen is trash.
(Re: iPad, I’d say it’s more likely user error
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