Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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Truckosaurus

11,471 posts

286 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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vikingaero said:
Just watched 2 guys on a road trip from Florida to Alaska in a Forester and Mitsu Evo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPm6RPmI5_A

Enjoyable, fantastic videography, normal sounding voices and normal guy - a refreshing change from the glutteral adenoidal tones on UK channels. But most of all, they enjoyed the journey rather than the destination. The destination for most UK Toobers is to produce clicks.
Some excellent scenery and well photographed.

However, it was amusing they brought enough equipment to perform two parking lot oil changes each but didn't think to chuck a couple of cans of octane booster in their luggage, so couldn't complete the journey as planned.

e30m3Mark

16,217 posts

175 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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nyxster said:
Noodle1982 said:
Anyone watch Supercar Blondie?

For some reason she kept popping up on my suggested videos. Decided to give her a whirl.

I had to turn off when i heard her pronunciation of Bahrain. There's no blonde hair or tight jeans in the world blonde enough or tight enough for me to endure that. She does seem to get access to some cracking cars though.....
She is a journalist by trade and was a very popular radio DJ in U.A.E hence her level of access. Most of her content seems to involve revving the nuts off cars and 'driving them' five feet out the showroom. That Martini Guy can clue you in to her appeal, a large chunk of her fanbae eems o comprise of mysognistical (sic?) mouthbreathers whacking one out over their keyboard judging by the comments.

I think Miss Emma Walsh is much more watchable - she's atually done her race license ad s competing in the Mini Challenge, shes a bona-fide petrol head and has some serous talrnt behind the wheel so isn't afraid to spank the nuts off a Ferrari, and has a tendancy to drive eerything like she stole it, she also seems to run her channel with more integrity and is a good example of what happens when you don't clickbait and spam filler content - under 50k subs and a fraction of he views. She also suffers the torrent of comments about her gender showing how hard it is for women to break into the little boys club despite our gender enlightened times.

She deserves a shout out for doing something different to the buy/wrap/sell with her racing and comes across as a genuinly nice person who loves cars.
I came to a similar conclusion (wrongly or rightly) about SCB. Comments are all very predictable from a certain kind of males. As for Emma Walsh, I've only seen her in the background of TGE etc, so never paid her much attention, but if she's done her ARD's and entered a formula like the Mini Challenge then fair play to her. I'll take a look and see how she gets on. Hopefully she's put having fun as a priority though, as it's a tough formula to excel in without real talent.

Escy

3,958 posts

151 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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nyxster said:
Contrary to belief the ranking system isn't a winner takrs all - the engine is highly tailored to individual users tastes which is why if you catch the tail of a hot nice your channel can catch fire - the process is about audience matching, but to achieve the best results from a SEO aspect you need to develop the commentary on the video - the more data points the audience provides the bigger audience the algos can curate against based on building a profile. Thats really been the key to TGE's rise - all those
And obviously once they've built an audience profile they are better able to match ad inventory so you get more ad placements, and specifically ad inventory will be matched to what the user is interested in so attracting an audience that is aligned to a high spending ad segment is quite important and why travel, lifestyle, business, real estate and fashion channels out-earn channels with low spend view demographics - also quite important to attract a audience in high value countries where ad inventory is priced higher.
Where do the kids channels sit on this scale? There is a video my daughter just watched, a 7 year old playing with some dolls in a swimming pool. 28m views in 2 months, that's crazy. Kids watch anything and half the time it's on and they aren't watching anyway (so ads play out in full). A kid is easily influenced by adverts and parents can be soft. Are they raking it?

AbzGuyGTI

579 posts

191 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Escy said:
Where do the kids channels sit on this scale? There is a video my daughter just watched, a 7 year old playing with some dolls in a swimming pool. 28m views in 2 months, that's crazy. Kids watch anything and half the time it's on and they aren't watching anyway (so ads play out in full). A kid is easily influenced by adverts and parents can be soft. Are they raking it?
Yes they are...! Look at what Ryan's Toy Reviews generates! Millions a year!

In August 2017 they generated 724 million views...IN A MONTH!!!!!

nyxster

1,452 posts

173 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Escy said:
Where do the kids channels sit on this scale? There is a video my daughter just watched, a 7 year old playing with some dolls in a swimming pool. 28m views in 2 months, that's crazy. Kids watch anything and half the time it's on and they aren't watching anyway (so ads play out in full). A kid is easily influenced by adverts and parents can be soft. Are they raking it?
I think one of the biggest earners on youtube is that woman who collects disney toys. Pester power is massive ad revenue since advertisers like mcdonalds are banned from almost all platforms targeting kids so they'll throw money at any opportunity they have.

its a legal minefield though - regulators will come down hard on all involved when they catch up.

red_slr

17,402 posts

191 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Truckosaurus said:
vikingaero said:
Just watched 2 guys on a road trip from Florida to Alaska in a Forester and Mitsu Evo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPm6RPmI5_A

Enjoyable, fantastic videography, normal sounding voices and normal guy - a refreshing change from the glutteral adenoidal tones on UK channels. But most of all, they enjoyed the journey rather than the destination. The destination for most UK Toobers is to produce clicks.
Some excellent scenery and well photographed.

However, it was amusing they brought enough equipment to perform two parking lot oil changes each but didn't think to chuck a couple of cans of octane booster in their luggage, so couldn't complete the journey as planned.
I suspect it was planned that in the end they had enough and knew they still had to make the return journey. I am pretty sure they knew high RON fuel would be in very limited supply. Enjoyed the videos though.

Jonnny

29,405 posts

191 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Anyone else reckon that Tatbels and TGE have had a falling out? She was on his videos a while ago, and she was tagging him in hers, now nothing.

TheAngryDog

12,419 posts

211 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Jonnny said:
Anyone else reckon that Tatbels and TGE have had a falling out? She was on his videos a while ago, and she was tagging him in hers, now nothing.
She has 4 videos? Who is she?

GVK

810 posts

244 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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red_slr said:
Truckosaurus said:
vikingaero said:
Just watched 2 guys on a road trip from Florida to Alaska in a Forester and Mitsu Evo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPm6RPmI5_A

Enjoyable, fantastic videography, normal sounding voices and normal guy - a refreshing change from the glutteral adenoidal tones on UK channels. But most of all, they enjoyed the journey rather than the destination. The destination for most UK Toobers is to produce clicks.
Some excellent scenery and well photographed.

However, it was amusing they brought enough equipment to perform two parking lot oil changes each but didn't think to chuck a couple of cans of octane booster in their luggage, so couldn't complete the journey as planned.
I suspect it was planned that in the end they had enough and knew they still had to make the return journey. I am pretty sure they knew high RON fuel would be in very limited supply. Enjoyed the videos though.
Surely bunging in some normal fuel and driving steady would've done...

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Truckosaurus said:
Some excellent scenery and well photographed.

However, it was amusing they brought enough equipment to perform two parking lot oil changes each but didn't think to chuck a couple of cans of octane booster in their luggage, so couldn't complete the journey as planned.
I watched this and thought the same!

Fair play to them though - a proper trip.

smithyithy

7,278 posts

120 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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TheAngryDog said:
She has 4 videos? Who is she?
She works / worked at Topaz Detailing

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

105 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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smithyithy said:
She works / worked at Topaz Detailing
I think I seen her working in stringfellows

TheAngryDog

12,419 posts

211 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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smithyithy said:
TheAngryDog said:
She has 4 videos? Who is she?
She works / worked at Topaz Detailing
That's cleared that up then.....

E36Dan

7,543 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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aji621 said:
found out recently from a friend whos got a large youtube channel doing other types of activities that if you dont put many adverts on your videos youtube holds them back & promotes videos with more adverts on. hence why i myself starting to put 3 adds on videos.
That's some mighty fine speculation you got there mister. I'm not buying that. hehe


Punio

70 posts

85 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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johnwilliams77 said:
13:31 to cut the junk
I actually enjoyed the buildup. Especially the added touch of bringing along his original partner on the channel. Shows how far he has come without being funded by the bank of Mum and Dad. Hopefully he keeps delivering good content withe the LP-640.

pincher

8,647 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Wonder how his mate feels about the fact that he drives round in a Mini, whereas the guy he set the channel up with is collecting a Lambo!

I’m guessing that he handed over the reins to PW - wonder if he regrets that decision now?

red_slr

17,402 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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pincher said:
Wonder how his mate feels about the fact that he drives round in a Mini, whereas the guy he set the channel up with is collecting a Lambo!

I’m guessing that he handed over the reins to PW - wonder if he regrets that decision now?
Maybe but its just business at the end of the day. Depends how much profit he is making and how long the bubble lasts!!

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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red_slr said:
pincher said:
Wonder how his mate feels about the fact that he drives round in a Mini, whereas the guy he set the channel up with is collecting a Lambo!

I’m guessing that he handed over the reins to PW - wonder if he regrets that decision now?
Maybe but its just business at the end of the day. Depends how much profit he is making and how long the bubble lasts!!
That and the fact that it’s a business transaction insofar as VVS will have agreed a defined period of tenure funded by SOL the company on what was I believe the cheapest LP640 they had in stock.

Appreciate that sounds a bit snipey and isn’t meant to, more a question of pointing out how the merry go round works in pursuit of the “one day I will have a Murci’” narrative that SOL has built and which keeps his viewers’ attention.

Jonnny

29,405 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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TheAngryDog said:
smithyithy said:
TheAngryDog said:
She has 4 videos? Who is she?
She works / worked at Topaz Detailing
That's cleared that up then.....
She seems to be on Instagram more than YouTube, but has started doing YT now.

Think she worked at Topaz but now at ProCare.

E36Dan

7,543 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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TorqueR said:
jas xjr said:
Anybody else just searched for a suzuki ignis sport?
Nope, I respect the Suzuki but I’d have a Fiat Panda 100hp instead.

Although, must admit. It’s nice to see a new video from Dan.
If you search threads on here about Ignis Sport's, you'll find a thread with a young me suggesting that Panda 100hp would be a better purchase.

I was told they are slower/heavier, but still great fun.

I think I'd prefer the Panda... need to drive one smile
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