Nobody wants big engined petrols for trade-in.
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Wouldn't say it was a big big engine, but I've just been offered a 325i 1995 for £450 (no tax, 4months MOT) and I'm thinking its not worth it :O 0-60 in 7.1 and 30mpg combined. I'm running a 1.1 at the moment and I reckon the BMW would cost £100 a week as apposed to £55 for me to run. I see why people don't want them!
StottyZr said:
Wouldn't say it was a big big engine, but I've just been offered a 325i 1995 for £450 (no tax, 4months MOT) and I'm thinking its not worth it :O 0-60 in 7.1 and 30mpg combined. I'm running a 1.1 at the moment and I reckon the BMW would cost £100 a week as apposed to £55 for me to run. I see why people don't want them!
I suppose it depends what your priorities are.If you're happy with a 1.1 with little power, but cheap to fuel and £45 in your pocket, then fine. If you want an I6 with a great sound, and enough power to get you moving along, then the 325i is a decent choice.
Buy it, run it for four months and break it for spares!
zakelwe said:
It's even less sensible to run a big V8 if you are bottom feeding.
They are nicer to drive though
I spent £1800 on a Lexus LS400 Mk4 with 4 new tyres and just Mot'd. I cycle to work and do maybe 4000 miles pa. Being just about the most reliable car ever, and that it's standard PLG car tax £210, I cannot think of any car (that is capable of travelling some long distances in relative comfort) which will cost me less to run over the 3 years or so I'll own it.They are nicer to drive though
Not a bad steer either
Good, this means i will be able to pick up the discovery 3 V8 i want for less. Gives more for the LPG conversion and i can run it for a few years.
I do 12-13k a year so it will pay itself off in about 18 months and i dont have to worry about egr failure, turbo's packing in and all the other diesel issues that can be thrown up.
I do 12-13k a year so it will pay itself off in about 18 months and i dont have to worry about egr failure, turbo's packing in and all the other diesel issues that can be thrown up.
DickSkruttock said:
I suppose it depends what your priorities are.
If you're happy with a 1.1 with little power, but cheap to fuel and £45 in your pocket, then fine. If you want an I6 with a great sound, and enough power to get you moving along, then the 325i is a decent choice.
Buy it, run it for four months and break it for spares!
Good point, I'm looking at buying a 320cd 04 plate soon, the loan repayments are £150 a month over 3 years. The 325i would cost pretty much the same I would expect. Could also be worth mentioning it comes with a private plate that attempts to say Jason and full leather interior. Could actually make a profit on the car!If you're happy with a 1.1 with little power, but cheap to fuel and £45 in your pocket, then fine. If you want an I6 with a great sound, and enough power to get you moving along, then the 325i is a decent choice.
Buy it, run it for four months and break it for spares!
Check this btw.
£1195, how the hell? Its georgeous.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
Coilovers must have cost £800 at least :S
A.J.M said:
Good, this means i will be able to pick up the discovery 3 V8 i want for less. Gives more for the LPG conversion and i can run it for a few years.
I do 12-13k a year so it will pay itself off in about 18 months and i dont have to worry about egr failure, turbo's packing in and all the other diesel issues that can be thrown up.
A mate (accountant!) just picked up a 55-plate D3LPG HSE for 12k iirc I do 12-13k a year so it will pay itself off in about 18 months and i dont have to worry about egr failure, turbo's packing in and all the other diesel issues that can be thrown up.
DickSkruttock said:
StottyZr said:
Wouldn't say it was a big big engine, but I've just been offered a 325i 1995 for £450 (no tax, 4months MOT) and I'm thinking its not worth it :O 0-60 in 7.1 and 30mpg combined. I'm running a 1.1 at the moment and I reckon the BMW would cost £100 a week as apposed to £55 for me to run. I see why people don't want them!
I suppose it depends what your priorities are.If you're happy with a 1.1 with little power, but cheap to fuel and £45 in your pocket, then fine. If you want an I6 with a great sound, and enough power to get you moving along, then the 325i is a decent choice.
Buy it, run it for four months and break it for spares!
Try the 325 for a day then decide!
GBB said:
To be fair they just don't compare - We ran a 1.1 R5 as Mrs. GBB's car for 7 yrs and it was great fun but once wound up you had to keep your speed going through corners/rounadabouts to avoid having to wait to build it up again. My 328 wafts, you're doing 60 in a blink and when crusing on the motorway it's whisper quiet unlike the Renault which was a buzz box on the motorway. It would be interesting to compare consumptions on a like for like basis - at circa 70mph the 328 does around 40mpg, I'd guess the Renault we had would have been the same due to lower power/lower gearing.
Try the 325 for a day then decide!
Well the 325 is damn old now. There is no actual mpg figures I can find on it! I looked around forums and the general consensus is they get late 20's with a mixture of driving. My 106 averages a calculated 50mpg and with the 450miles a week I average and I would expect almost half them figures from the 325i :-/ It could also be worth mentioning the 325 is 5 gears, I think the 328 is 6?Try the 325 for a day then decide!
StottyZr said:
Well the 325 is damn old now. There is no actual mpg figures I can find on it! I looked around forums and the general consensus is they get late 20's with a mixture of driving. My 106 averages a calculated 50mpg and with the 450miles a week I average and I would expect almost half them figures from the 325i :-/ It could also be worth mentioning the 325 is 5 gears, I think the 328 is 6?
My 1990 E30 325i Touring would average 31mpg on mostly dual carriageways doing 65-70. So should be near that - unless you're town driving 
Acheron said:
Went to look at a car today, and three out of three times, i've been offered £1500 lower than the book price. (Mondeo st220).
As the dealer, probably correctly said, 'we dont need them, we cant shift them, and people dont want to buy them, they all want little diesels then can pay £20 a year road tax on'.
Bah. Might just keep it now and keep punching holes in the o-zone layer with it, just to prove a point.
This is not a new thing. When I worked in car sales, undesirable trade in's were well under book value. Small car's and diesels were better, colour, service history and condition made a big difference but your experience dates back to the first ever car lot I'm sure...As the dealer, probably correctly said, 'we dont need them, we cant shift them, and people dont want to buy them, they all want little diesels then can pay £20 a year road tax on'.
Bah. Might just keep it now and keep punching holes in the o-zone layer with it, just to prove a point.
New cars were no exception, my old man got £10k of his 4.4 Vogue £65k range rover in 2004, when I worked at a skoda dealer we had an orange Octavia estate 4x4 that we had in the show room for 6 months, we then pre-reg'd it and knocked some money off then a bloke turned up in a white high mileage daewoo of some description and we gave him retail money for it to get shut of this almost 12 month old Octy!
StottyZr said:
Well the 325 is damn old now. There is no actual mpg figures I can find on it! I looked around forums and the general consensus is they get late 20's with a mixture of driving. My 106 averages a calculated 50mpg and with the 450miles a week I average and I would expect almost half them figures from the 325i :-/ It could also be worth mentioning the 325 is 5 gears, I think the 328 is 6?
E30 325i or E36? 23-25 for the former, 28-30 ish for each respectively (in manual gearbox guise, knock a couple off for auto).
The M52 engined 328i actually works out a bit better on fuel than the M50 engined 325i and has a more useful wodge of torque behind it. 323i (2.5l 170bhp) is excellent, delivering 325i performance with easy 33-35mpg economy.
The only six speed E36 was the M3 Evo, the rest are five-speeders.
Zwoelf said:
E30 325i or E36?
23-25 for the former, 28-30 ish for each respectively (in manual gearbox guise, knock a couple off for auto).
The M52 engined 328i actually works out a bit better on fuel than the M50 engined 325i and has a more useful wodge of torque behind it. 323i (2.5l 170bhp) is excellent, delivering 325i performance with easy 33-35mpg economy.
The only six speed E36 was the M3 Evo, the rest are five-speeders.
1995 so E36, unless a soft top.23-25 for the former, 28-30 ish for each respectively (in manual gearbox guise, knock a couple off for auto).
The M52 engined 328i actually works out a bit better on fuel than the M50 engined 325i and has a more useful wodge of torque behind it. 323i (2.5l 170bhp) is excellent, delivering 325i performance with easy 33-35mpg economy.
The only six speed E36 was the M3 Evo, the rest are five-speeders.
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GBB said:
Not really. A big V8 is a relatively unstressed engine so mileage they can achieve without major repairs will often be far better than a turbo-diesel (and costs of fixing lower), also as everyone seems to want a diesel you'll probably get a better condition V8 for your £1,000 than if you went for a TD.
I considered a Golf MK4 a while back and prices for GT TD's are significantly higher than those of V5's or GTi Turbos' of the same age/mileage.
Yes my AMG C43 engine was ultra reliable. Unfortunately the £3300 gearbox wasn't. The front pads on the C43 cost more than disks and pads on a Clio I ran at the same time.I considered a Golf MK4 a while back and prices for GT TD's are significantly higher than those of V5's or GTi Turbos' of the same age/mileage.
V8's are not cheap and cheerful cars for those clever people in the know, it's a myth perpetuated by folk who wish to convince someone else when actually it's just the big throbby engine that is the real reason. Well, it was in my case.
zakelwe said:
Yes my AMG C43 engine was ultra reliable. Unfortunately the £3300 gearbox wasn't. The front pads on the C43 cost more than disks and pads on a Clio I ran at the same time.
V8's are not cheap and cheerful cars for those clever people in the know, it's a myth perpetuated by folk who wish to convince someone else when actually it's just the big throbby engine that is the real reason. Well, it was in my case.
a £3000 gearbox repair is just that... it does not matter which engine it's bolted to V8's are not cheap and cheerful cars for those clever people in the know, it's a myth perpetuated by folk who wish to convince someone else when actually it's just the big throbby engine that is the real reason. Well, it was in my case.
richardxjr said:
I spent £1800 on a Lexus LS400 Mk4 with 4 new tyres and just Mot'd. I cycle to work and do maybe 4000 miles pa. Being just about the most reliable car ever, and that it's standard PLG car tax £210, I cannot think of any car (that is capable of travelling some long distances in relative comfort) which will cost me less to run over the 3 years or so I'll own it.
Not a bad steer either
Most cars will do long distances in relative comfort nowadays, some of them at over 60mpg. They will be cheaper to service and repair too. Didn't Garlick get a Lexus? How is his costing him?Not a bad steer either
It is a nice car though.
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