RE: TVR: Back in business (there's even a website)
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
Rather pathetically, the only owner who actually tried to introduce relevant and modern business practices to TVR was the dummy sucking schmuck who bought a dead parrot for £15m.
I think you meant "rather ironically", surely? Agreed, NS did make some attempts at improving Quality Control* before he lost interest in that and started having his slightly deranged flights of fancy and 'Orgasmic Living'.
( * - although the much-vaunted idea of 'filling in' the slats on the Sagaris is complete bunkum - it was more a case that it took a worker 8 hours to cut them out)
wombat172a said:
Theoretical thought here:
If Smolenski starts producing TVR cars on the continent, do the cars not need to be TUV approved to sell them in Germany/Austria/France etc?
If so how much work would it take to get even a modern TVR up to TUV spec?
Otherwise he can't sell them on the continent can he, or is the intention to build abroad and sell them only in the UK?
Yep, no CoC = no TUV = no sales If Smolenski starts producing TVR cars on the continent, do the cars not need to be TUV approved to sell them in Germany/Austria/France etc?
If so how much work would it take to get even a modern TVR up to TUV spec?
Otherwise he can't sell them on the continent can he, or is the intention to build abroad and sell them only in the UK?
Edited by Funky Jo on Wednesday 16th November 22:47
DonkeyApple said:
In the modern world where secondary sales are so vital to revenue streams of manufacturers, it was another failure of TVR to not control the mod/upgrade market for their products. The revenue stream from offering a tranche of company sanctioned upgrade packages would have rivalled the primary sales income quite quickly.
Absolutely. Again, look at the businesses that stay afloat at the sort of scale that would be sustainable for TVR - steady stream of income from aftermarket and/or motorsport, with a few new road cars being built for good measure (and magazine column inches). The size of the TVR aftermarket vs. the # of cars on the road is more proof if one would need it...
900T-R said:
DonkeyApple said:
In the modern world where secondary sales are so vital to revenue streams of manufacturers, it was another failure of TVR to not control the mod/upgrade market for their products. The revenue stream from offering a tranche of company sanctioned upgrade packages would have rivalled the primary sales income quite quickly.
Absolutely. Again, look at the businesses that stay afloat at the sort of scale that would be sustainable for TVR - steady stream of income from aftermarket and/or motorsport, with a few new road cars being built for good measure (and magazine column inches). The size of the TVR aftermarket vs. the # of cars on the road is more proof if one would need it...
JR said:
In their defence this is why they introduced 18" wheels. (OK a weak defence...)
I think their biggest coup though, was devising a wheel/brake upgrade for Chimaeras and Griffiths at an unbeatable price when they were confronted with a mountain of 16" wheels that no one wanted... 
900T-R said:
JR said:
In their defence this is why they introduced 18" wheels. (OK a weak defence...)
I think their biggest coup though, was devising a wheel/brake upgrade for Chimaeras and Griffiths at an unbeatable price when they were confronted with a mountain of 16" wheels that no one wanted... 
I think at the end of the day it can be a good thing for TVR, for all those that are moaning about the American V8s, you forget that the first ever V8 in a TVR was American!
So what the new TVR will have a Chevvy engine, yes its the same as in the new Camaros and they are slow but because they are Heavy. I believe that this is the same engine that was in the 2008 Corvette which boasted 187mph and 0-60 in 4.0 seconds? Sounds more appealing doesnt it. Then the ZR1 is the same engine but Supercharged and that did 205mph? and 0-60 in under 4 seconds? Just imagine how quick these are going to be in super light weight TVRs that weigh under a Tonne!
I may not be accurate but just trying to make a few pointers. Dont get it twisted though. id rather have a Cerbera 4.5 anyday!
So what the new TVR will have a Chevvy engine, yes its the same as in the new Camaros and they are slow but because they are Heavy. I believe that this is the same engine that was in the 2008 Corvette which boasted 187mph and 0-60 in 4.0 seconds? Sounds more appealing doesnt it. Then the ZR1 is the same engine but Supercharged and that did 205mph? and 0-60 in under 4 seconds? Just imagine how quick these are going to be in super light weight TVRs that weigh under a Tonne!
I may not be accurate but just trying to make a few pointers. Dont get it twisted though. id rather have a Cerbera 4.5 anyday!
JonRB said:
Jack1988 said:
So what the new TVR will have a Chevvy engine
What new TVR? Have you even read the article or this thread? 
The guys first post and he gets you jumping down his throat for the sake of a simple turn of phrase.
Yeah, why have Kate Moss when you could also go out with Britney Spears... 
For the 100th time: the Vette is great. But it's not a small, intimate sportscar with a stonking big engine in the Cobra mould. Either you 'get' that or you don't. The latter happens to be what gets my juices flowing and I'm afraid I'm not interested in a bigger, fatter, more remote substitute even if it's ultimately more 'capable'.
Also the Vette is very er, American inside and out. Not a style that I'm a particular fan of.
For the 100th time: the Vette is great. But it's not a small, intimate sportscar with a stonking big engine in the Cobra mould. Either you 'get' that or you don't. The latter happens to be what gets my juices flowing and I'm afraid I'm not interested in a bigger, fatter, more remote substitute even if it's ultimately more 'capable'.
Also the Vette is very er, American inside and out. Not a style that I'm a particular fan of.
Edited by 900T-R on Wednesday 23 November 14:37
Everything about this makes me feel ill.
First of all seeing a website called "www.tvrmotors.EU" pffff.
Seeing TVR GmbH at the bottom of the screen not TVR Motors, Blackpool.
Seeing old TVRs with a decent but quite reasonably priced Chevy V8 but costing 100k!
Seeing a new TVR website with the wrong TVR logo
Why didn't this twit just design his own car and quit f#cking around with a well loved brand.
I'm sure it's all been said before but hey, its my turn.
First of all seeing a website called "www.tvrmotors.EU" pffff.
Seeing TVR GmbH at the bottom of the screen not TVR Motors, Blackpool.
Seeing old TVRs with a decent but quite reasonably priced Chevy V8 but costing 100k!
Seeing a new TVR website with the wrong TVR logo
Why didn't this twit just design his own car and quit f#cking around with a well loved brand.
I'm sure it's all been said before but hey, its my turn.
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