RE: Official: Mercedes A45 AMG
Discussion
Wolands Advocate said:
C63 all the way, if you can afford it. No comparison!
They're certainly two completely different cars, however if you can afford the A45 AMG, then you can afford the C63.Whilst I like the C63, I prefer the A45. I think it's the hot-hatch shape - it's the kind of thing that I would have wished I could have afforded at 20, but now 190 years on, I can.
I test-drove a C63. And adored it. I so nearly put pen to paper to sign for one. I was literally pen in hand when the grim reality of the running costs (fuel + depreciation) sunk in and I had to beat a retreat.
There's no comparison between that V8 wonder which comes in kitchen-sink spec as standard, and a surprisingly meagrely-equipped 2.0 hatchback, however banzai.
There's no comparison between that V8 wonder which comes in kitchen-sink spec as standard, and a surprisingly meagrely-equipped 2.0 hatchback, however banzai.
Wolands Advocate said:
I test-drove a C63. And adored it. I so nearly put pen to paper to sign for one. I was literally pen in hand when the grim reality of the running costs (fuel + depreciation) sunk in and I had to beat a retreat.
There's no comparison between that V8 wonder which comes in kitchen-sink spec as standard, and a surprisingly meagrely-equipped 2.0 hatchback, however banzai.
Horses for courses! I'm currently enjoying a V8, but I'm happy to look at a 2ltr. It certainly doesnt sound like a typical 2ltr.There's no comparison between that V8 wonder which comes in kitchen-sink spec as standard, and a surprisingly meagrely-equipped 2.0 hatchback, however banzai.
I'll reserve judgement on the standard kit list until I receive it from my dealer. There's just too much internet gossip right now.
F1GTRUeno said:
Enthusiasts wouldn't buy this at all, Only the image conscious, well off, TOWIE watching clones will buy something like this.
Absolute tosh, what about someone looking for a company car that would be crippled by tax but doesn't want a diesel?Average earner?: 35000UKP - 193 quid a month (ETA - Tax) (if your are lucky enough to have a boss to buy you one) (C63 would be 544UKP)
Try and open your mind a bit...
My current ideas for next company car are: BMW 330D X Drive, Mk.7 GTI, Mk. 6 Golf R, Merc C350.. this fits nicely!
Edited by micawrx on Monday 17th June 12:52
135i v New Golf v A45
Sutcliffe at the wheel.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-mercedes-...
I won't spoil it
Twincharge said:
Luke. said:
Eh? Wait for an A45 or get a C63 tomorrow? 
C63.
Ha! Yeah, you talk absolute sense. I came to that logical conclusion an hour ago. Thanks man. C63.
As for he a class I love em and I know I think everything is expensive these days but Jesus 37k before options
ukwill said:
135i v New Golf v A45
Sutcliffe at the wheel.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-mercedes-...
I won't spoil it
I'm fascinated to see he says the A45 is comfortable because all the other reviews say otherwise.Sutcliffe at the wheel.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-mercedes-...
I won't spoil it
ukwill said:
135i v New Golf v A45
Sutcliffe at the wheel.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-mercedes-...
I won't spoil it
Enjoyed watching that. All 3 are stunning cars and each offers something unique. Will be interesting to see what happens when the new Audi S3 is thrown into the mix, effectively with the Golf engine but matching the M135i for power and the 4WD from the A-Class. Sutcliffe at the wheel.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-mercedes-...
I won't spoil it
Mr Sutcliffe certainly seems impressed, although I don't know how he can say the interior is amazing, what with the satnav carbuncle and those tacky vents.
There wasn't really any indication of the noise it makes either and from previous vids I'm left a bit underwhelmed by it in this department. OK it's not going to match a I6, turbo or not, but I'm hoping AMG didn't leave it sounding like a generic big-boost four.
Still, a good couple of scalps for the Mercedes.
There wasn't really any indication of the noise it makes either and from previous vids I'm left a bit underwhelmed by it in this department. OK it's not going to match a I6, turbo or not, but I'm hoping AMG didn't leave it sounding like a generic big-boost four.
Still, a good couple of scalps for the Mercedes.
Made a poll in a new thread - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was a bit disheartened for a minute as I have taken delivery of my new 5DR Auto M135i last week.
I like the idea of the AMG, but as I wafted along to work this morning (after having hammered it along to get home last night) I felt very happy with my own choice.
As people have said, I can't help but feel its not a direct competitor, I am sure the ride and waft-ability along with creamy 6 pot make it quite different. I have all the toys and managed a nice 4k discount off the 38K list with options.
I simply wouldn't be able to have the AMG with all these comforts for anywhere near the same money (43-45K?), or indeed quite afford it at all.
I have come from a Focus RS MK2 MP350. The M135i feels a lot quicker, but not as hunkered down and stiff, without the same ultimate handling sharpness. But I seem to carry speed over bumps where I would have almost hit the Ceiling in the RS.
It's a trade off I am happy with, the M135i is such a great all rounder. Can't wait to fit a louder exhaust to give a little more involvement too..... I might also add an LSD later on.
As for the golf, a good car, but bland, underpowered and overpriced for what it is. I specced one up to 34K on their configurator, and that was without leather!
I think they only lobbed the golf in because it was available, the test we all really want to see is AMG vs S3 vs M135i and then later on AMG vs new RS3 vs new 1M
Anyway, I will hopefully get to at least experience the AMG as my father wants to test one!
I like the idea of the AMG, but as I wafted along to work this morning (after having hammered it along to get home last night) I felt very happy with my own choice.
As people have said, I can't help but feel its not a direct competitor, I am sure the ride and waft-ability along with creamy 6 pot make it quite different. I have all the toys and managed a nice 4k discount off the 38K list with options.
I simply wouldn't be able to have the AMG with all these comforts for anywhere near the same money (43-45K?), or indeed quite afford it at all.
I have come from a Focus RS MK2 MP350. The M135i feels a lot quicker, but not as hunkered down and stiff, without the same ultimate handling sharpness. But I seem to carry speed over bumps where I would have almost hit the Ceiling in the RS.
It's a trade off I am happy with, the M135i is such a great all rounder. Can't wait to fit a louder exhaust to give a little more involvement too..... I might also add an LSD later on.
As for the golf, a good car, but bland, underpowered and overpriced for what it is. I specced one up to 34K on their configurator, and that was without leather!
I think they only lobbed the golf in because it was available, the test we all really want to see is AMG vs S3 vs M135i and then later on AMG vs new RS3 vs new 1M
Anyway, I will hopefully get to at least experience the AMG as my father wants to test one!
pilchardthecat said:
The M135 isn't a direct competitor with this though is it? Surely that would be the new 1M when that arrives - the 'proper' M car with the mechanical M diff, etc?
Yes you are right and nor is the Golf GTI, but I think the point is more each is currently their respective manufacturers flagship hot hatch. Also there isn't quite as much between the prices when they are all 5dr and Auto, which the Merc comes in by default. urquattroGus said:
I have come from a Focus RS MK2 MP350. The M135i feels a lot quicker, but not as hunkered down and stiff, without the same ultimate handling sharpness. But I seem to carry speed over bumps where I would have almost hit the Ceiling in the RS.
If I ever pull my finger out, I'm coming from exactly the same car. I was worried the M135i might be slightly disappointing in the gears but you're not finding this then? rajkohli81 said:
Wolands Advocate said:
C63 all the way, if you can afford it. No comparison!
You're absolutely right, A45 tested as quicker and seems very good value for money, so.... no comparison
OTR: £37,845
Metallic paint: £570
19" alloys: £615
Leather seats (part of AMG Exclusive Pack): £1080 (Artico is the standard covering)
Folding mirrors: £310
Intelligent Light System: £570
Heated seats: £300
Panoramic Sunroof: £900
COMAND: £2,100
HK audio: £680
AMG Performance Exhaust: £510
Total: £45,480
If I can find £45k, then I can probably also find another £4k to get the proper bespoke V8 thunder-saloon....
Hang on a minute, so you can get a ~£10k discount on a C63 but not a penny off list price on an A45 ?
Find that hard to believe. I can imagine that the discounts will not be as generous as its a newer model and the C63 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, nevertheless.
I do know that some of the rarer Mercs attract big discounts because they aren't desirable.. I think its the SLS that attracts sizable discounts - £50k+.
Lets think of this a slightly different way, if an A45 'without leather seats is £37k' just imagine what the C63 replacement will cost when it comes out!
I will see what I can find out ref discounts on A45s.
Find that hard to believe. I can imagine that the discounts will not be as generous as its a newer model and the C63 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, nevertheless.
I do know that some of the rarer Mercs attract big discounts because they aren't desirable.. I think its the SLS that attracts sizable discounts - £50k+.
Lets think of this a slightly different way, if an A45 'without leather seats is £37k' just imagine what the C63 replacement will cost when it comes out!
I will see what I can find out ref discounts on A45s.
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