unrealistic expectations of the used car market???
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Ghost91 said:
Let's be honest Devil, we all know why he's dismissing certain cars.
If you followed his previous threads he only wanted something with a premium badge as an 'upgrade' to the mondeo, so was looking at old 5 series, Audi's, because they had the image.
He's the typical leased boggo diesel audi candidate....
No im not a leased boggo diesel audi candidate. That is not what im after AT ALL. you have totally misunderstood my previous posts if you think that.If you followed his previous threads he only wanted something with a premium badge as an 'upgrade' to the mondeo, so was looking at old 5 series, Audi's, because they had the image.
He's the typical leased boggo diesel audi candidate....
I do want something better than my mondeo yes. By better i mean something that looks sporty and has some power to go with it. At the same time it still needs to be a family workhorse.
The 'image' you speak of is not me wanting to impress the family next door or the guy at work. I want to own something that I MYSELF will enjoy owning and think that it is special by ticking MY OWN taste boxes. Some people like the classic car look, some like the sports convertables. I like the large sports saloon / sports estate look. My perfect car would probably be an RS6 avant or an m5 touring. Yes i already know i dont have the budget for anything near this. The saabs were the next best thing in my price bracket - or so i thought.
I really liked the accord. It was sharply designed and sporty looking whilst being a good sized family car. Its sold. How long now before another of equivalent spec and price becomes available.
In the meantime i keep looking and i keep asking questions, because there will most likely be something i havent considered just like when someone suggested the honda in this thread. Thats why im here, thats why i keep asking questions. Im looking for help and advice. Its been 9 years since i last bought a car and ive never had anything sporty before. Despite all my research im still unfamiliar with what i can and cant get for the money i have
I am trying to reign in my expectations but at the end of the day if i look at a car and dont like it then i dont like it. I dont need a car right now this second but i want a new car that i will enjoy owning.
The advice i have recieved over my multiple threads has been invaluable to me. Genuinely. Every time i have learnt from it and adjusted my strategy. I know i have a rigid viewpoint on things i just know what i like and anything else isnt worth the switch to me.
Edited by danlightbulb on Tuesday 24th November 13:08
bmw. black leather http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C679139 - little over budget but might be worth stretching a little bit more
this could be worth a look. no history but may have just been lost. ex MOD car so may have been serviced in the workshops on site from new ? http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C674680
there are loads of cars out there for 2k. as others have said, just need to put the miles in. not convenient some times but waiting for something to turn up on your door step may take a while
this could be worth a look. no history but may have just been lost. ex MOD car so may have been serviced in the workshops on site from new ? http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C674680
there are loads of cars out there for 2k. as others have said, just need to put the miles in. not convenient some times but waiting for something to turn up on your door step may take a while
Edited by MDMA . on Tuesday 24th November 13:03
danlightbulb said:
No im not a leased boggo diesel audi candidate. That is not what im after AT ALL. you have totally misunderstood my previous posts if you think that.
I do want something better than my mondeo yes. By better i mean something that looks sporty and has some power to go with it. At the same time it still needs to be a family workhorse.
The 'image' you speak of is not me wanting to impress the family next door or the guy at work. I want to own something that I MYSELF will enjoy owning and think that it is special by ticking MY OWN taste boxes. Some people like the classic car look, some like the sports convertables. I like the large sports saloon / sports estate look. My perfect car would probably be an RS6 avant or an m5 touring. Yes i already know i dont have the budget for anything near this. The saabs were the bext bext thing in my price bracket - or so i thought.
I really liked the accord. It was sharply designed and sporty looking whilst being a good sized family car. Its sold. How long now before another of equivalent spec and price becomes available.
In the meantime i keep looking and i keep asking questions, because there will most likely be something i havent considered just like when someone suggested the honda in this thread. Thats why im here, thats why i keep asking questions. Im looking for help and advice. Its been 9 years since i last bought a car and ive never had anything sporty before. Despite all my research im still unfamiliar with what i can and cant get for the money i have
I am trying to reign in my expectations but at the end of the day if i look at a car and dont like it then i dont like it. I dont need a car right now this second but i want a new car that i will enjoy owning.
Surely the last sentence encapsulates the whole thing. I do want something better than my mondeo yes. By better i mean something that looks sporty and has some power to go with it. At the same time it still needs to be a family workhorse.
The 'image' you speak of is not me wanting to impress the family next door or the guy at work. I want to own something that I MYSELF will enjoy owning and think that it is special by ticking MY OWN taste boxes. Some people like the classic car look, some like the sports convertables. I like the large sports saloon / sports estate look. My perfect car would probably be an RS6 avant or an m5 touring. Yes i already know i dont have the budget for anything near this. The saabs were the bext bext thing in my price bracket - or so i thought.
I really liked the accord. It was sharply designed and sporty looking whilst being a good sized family car. Its sold. How long now before another of equivalent spec and price becomes available.
In the meantime i keep looking and i keep asking questions, because there will most likely be something i havent considered just like when someone suggested the honda in this thread. Thats why im here, thats why i keep asking questions. Im looking for help and advice. Its been 9 years since i last bought a car and ive never had anything sporty before. Despite all my research im still unfamiliar with what i can and cant get for the money i have
I am trying to reign in my expectations but at the end of the day if i look at a car and dont like it then i dont like it. I dont need a car right now this second but i want a new car that i will enjoy owning.
Your dream car is an RS6. Why not wait and save some more money until you can afford a car you actually really want, rather than change for the sake of buying a different car?
Ghost91 said:
Let's be honest Devil, we all know why he's dismissing certain cars.
If you followed his previous threads he only wanted something with a premium badge as an 'upgrade' to the mondeo, so was looking at old 5 series, Audi's, because they had the image.
He's the typical leased boggo diesel audi candidate....
Would it matter if he was?If you followed his previous threads he only wanted something with a premium badge as an 'upgrade' to the mondeo, so was looking at old 5 series, Audi's, because they had the image.
He's the typical leased boggo diesel audi candidate....
Based on his comments in this thread I don't think he is.
Megaflow said:
The owner says it has always been run on synthetic. Firstly, how can he back this up without a service history and secondly, if it has, why has the sump needed dropping at lest once, if not twice?
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bet its got /had oil pressure problems and would make me think its way past its best.
S10GTA said:
dave_s13 said:
What about a bit of left field iconic French motoring. You can throw these at a corner at any speed and they don't tip over (might under-steer into a tree I suppose).
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.ph...
Doesn't meet any of your criteria really but thought it was interesting myself. Sounds OK for the money.
I'm sure you could pick up a 2nd had leather interior for it on Ebay.
Why why why why did you need to post that....I've had 3 already http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.ph...
Doesn't meet any of your criteria really but thought it was interesting myself. Sounds OK for the money.
I'm sure you could pick up a 2nd had leather interior for it on Ebay.
Devil2575 said:
Would it matter if he was?
Based on his comments in this thread I don't think he is.
It wouldn't if he was honest about it... Based on his comments in this thread I don't think he is.
This is his fourth or fifth thread now and each one to me has pointed to wanting a premium car for very little money - which several people have pointed out is perfectly obtainable. But then the MPG and reliability are an issue for him, so people gave advice on more conservative cars fitting the criteria with some compromises. None of these have been good enough until now when he's looking at the Hondas etc.
Not saying the chap has said anything wrong, but there's only so many times you can post the same thread asking for advice if you're not really taking much of it on board.
Megaflow said:
The owner says it has always been run on synthetic. Firstly, how can he back this up without a service history and secondly, if it has, why has the sump needed dropping at lest once, if not twice?
It's an easy enough job to do, so as a precaution some owners will drop the sump periodically for peace of mind. I definitely wouldn't see it as a worrying sign that something must be wrong with it.The sludging issue really does get blown out of all proportion sometimes and as for claims that there's no second hand engines available because of it...
It was an issue for some owners of pre 2004 cars, mostly for non Aero models run on semi synth with drain intervals of 10 to 12k miles. The smaller mesh holes in the oil pickup strainer would more easily catch debris, most notably little chunks from degrading PCV pipes.
The PCV system went through several iterations, the last being upgrade #6 which seemed to resolve the problem for owners of pre 2004 cars and it's most likely that any cared-for Saab will already have this in place. In 2004 Saab redesigned the factory PCV system, the changes including an extra outlet on the back of the block into the oil catch tank and iirc the off boost pipework to the throttle body was enlarged and came from the catch can rather than straight from the PCV outlet in the cam cover.
It's much like the Nikasil issue with Jaguar. Some owners were affected, but it's made out to still be a major issue for cars with the Nikasil liners despite those cars still being on the road today and the root cause of the problem long gone.
So as a sensible precaution, use fully synth oil, make sure that the car in question has the updated PCV #6 and that there's some indication that it's had a sump drop for piece of mind. Periodically check that the PCV hoses aren't going soft. Finally, 6k oil changes will really keep the issue at bay. With Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (£19.99 for 5 litres from Euro Car Parts the other week) it's not going to break the bank.
I've had my Aero for 2.5 years / 25k miles and so far the only thing that's needed repairing outside of services was the engine thermostat (£8 for the OE part and 3 minutes to change).
The only non service items that've needed changing during services have been the front balljoints, the oil pressure switch which was leaking slightly, and a couple of seals in the head.
I must've spent more on tyres than servicing in the time that I've had it
sjc said:
41K miles, all the toys and a lovely sounding quad-cam V6, just ask if the belts have been done.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
What part of 'beige seats' don't you understand, dammit?http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
2gins said:
sjc said:
41K miles, all the toys and a lovely sounding quad-cam V6, just ask if the belts have been done.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
What part of 'beige seats' don't you understand, dammit?http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
danlightbulb said:
I really liked the accord. It was sharply designed and sporty looking whilst being a good sized family car. Its sold. How long now before another of equivalent spec and price becomes available.
A while, frankly. It was an absolute steal and I wouldn't be surprised if it was bought by a trader to resell.Edited by danlightbulb on Tuesday 24th November 13:08
If you want an Accord 2.4 Type-S (and I think it would be a very good choice) just decide that is what you want and look at NOTHING else. When/if one comes up buy it - then, now, not think about it for 11 days until it is sold etc.
I too am in the market for a cheap car for the first time in a while.
I had assumed I could pick up an E46 330ci for the same sort of money I sold mine for a few years back. Keep in mind they're old now, all I was interested in is finding a well looked after one, less fussy on spec, bit of rust etc.
All that's out there is absolute dogs ragged by little chavs, and they're fetching strong money as well. Mine was mint when I sold it for £1700.
I've come to the conclusion that most cars as they get older are just used as sheds until they die, it's rare someone will take care of a car for its entire life when it's only worth buttons eventually anyway.
Because of this, I've decided to broaden my search and now I've been looking at cars like lexus which by and large seem much better maintained and looked after when they start getting on a bit (different demographic of owner probably)
What I'm saying is, I was being too picky, and f
k me you're even worse worrying about the colour of the trim. Especially since you can seemingly barely afford the running costs of the cars you want.
I reckon you need to find a suitable car, ignoring badge, age, whether it's a step up from your mondeo or not. If I were in your shoes I'd find the best mk3 mondeo petrol that I could, and use the change for some nice winter tyres, a good hands free kit, possibly even DAB, a thorough service, and if I was that inclined to hide the age, a private plate. Youd probably still have money left and a damn good car that'll last ages.
If you can wait and be patient I'm sure the right honda would come along, they're brilliant cars. The autos are supposed to be better though.
I had assumed I could pick up an E46 330ci for the same sort of money I sold mine for a few years back. Keep in mind they're old now, all I was interested in is finding a well looked after one, less fussy on spec, bit of rust etc.
All that's out there is absolute dogs ragged by little chavs, and they're fetching strong money as well. Mine was mint when I sold it for £1700.
I've come to the conclusion that most cars as they get older are just used as sheds until they die, it's rare someone will take care of a car for its entire life when it's only worth buttons eventually anyway.
Because of this, I've decided to broaden my search and now I've been looking at cars like lexus which by and large seem much better maintained and looked after when they start getting on a bit (different demographic of owner probably)
What I'm saying is, I was being too picky, and f
k me you're even worse worrying about the colour of the trim. Especially since you can seemingly barely afford the running costs of the cars you want. I reckon you need to find a suitable car, ignoring badge, age, whether it's a step up from your mondeo or not. If I were in your shoes I'd find the best mk3 mondeo petrol that I could, and use the change for some nice winter tyres, a good hands free kit, possibly even DAB, a thorough service, and if I was that inclined to hide the age, a private plate. Youd probably still have money left and a damn good car that'll last ages.
If you can wait and be patient I'm sure the right honda would come along, they're brilliant cars. The autos are supposed to be better though.
If you last changed car 9(!) years ago, how long are you planning to keep this car?
If you are again planning for 9 years, then a £2,000 car I would assume is going to run into some sort of expensive trouble within that time frame.
Why not a) Save some more b) Get a loan with repayments less than what you can afford to save additionally each month.
At least then you will be able to tick ever requirement you have rather than just change for the sake of it and not meeting all of your requirements.
If you are again planning for 9 years, then a £2,000 car I would assume is going to run into some sort of expensive trouble within that time frame.
Why not a) Save some more b) Get a loan with repayments less than what you can afford to save additionally each month.
At least then you will be able to tick ever requirement you have rather than just change for the sake of it and not meeting all of your requirements.
CorvetteConvert said:
Hard to argue with this. Too many people want; a reliable car, which is fun and doesn't need any repairs and which will carry a load and etc etc etc ... but want to pay the price of a major service and some tyres for many cars, to buy it!
Borrow some money and get a decent car, not a shed.
Might sound mad but could a Civic Type R fit the OP's requirements?Borrow some money and get a decent car, not a shed.
Reliable, yes. Fast and fun, yes. It will fit his kids in no problems and they have a surprisingly big boot.
If you search around £2K will find you a decent one, but you may have to look at a few sheds beforehand because of the type of car they are.
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