Parking in a disabled space when a car park is full

[stuartmmcfc]

An interesting article about why accessible toilets are for use for anyone but why people who don’t have disabilities really shouldn’t use them if they can help it.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/30/by-using-the-disabl...

[Hol]

Scrump said:

yonex said:

anonymous said:

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You do understand there’s a broad spectrum of disability?

I think cossers may have meant those who have access to be able to “borrow” a blue badge from a relative or friend.

And it’s a very good question.

Wasn’t there a publicised case fairly recently about a ‘relative’ who although able bodied , was repeatedly using a blue badge to go shopping without the disabled person in the car?
The justification being the existence of the badge itself.

Personally, if I drive my mother anywhere in her car ( with a blue badge affixed) I always drop her at the door and park elsewhere.

[nonsequitur]

David87 said:

Whenever I visit a car park in my Tesla and have my kids in the car, I can never make my mind up whether I should park in an electric space or a parent and child space. Perhaps shops need to cater for folk like me and provide EV-only parent and child spaces?

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Quick question. Electric space / car: Parking without charging. Only parking with charging?

[Sticks.]

stuartmmcfc said:

An interesting article about why accessible toilets are for use for anyone but why people who don’t have disabilities really shouldn’t use them if they can help it.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/30/by-using-the-disabl...

Thanks for that. 'stop and think how you would feel if someone compromised your independence simply for their own convenience. Or worse, their own laziness.' about sums it up really.

I noticed one recently called an 'inclusive toilet' but asked that disabled people be given priority.

PorkInsider said:

Having a suitable space available can make the difference between being able to visit the shop, or whatever it is, and having to just go home for a disabled person.

It's not about a bit of inconvenience.

I used to get this frequently before online and when I couldn't travel far. Nearest supermarket is on a hill, disabled spaces by the door, the rest down the hill.... you know the rest. I used to have to go home and come back another day.

[roadend1981]

I'll park in a disabled its usually only for a minute or 10 just like I park in parent and child. Normal spaces aren't big enough, and under no cost am I gonna take a chance getting a ding in any car I'm driving. If people had respect for others I'd be happy to follow the rules. But in this day and age you either look after yourself or get disappointed.

[Scrump]

roadend1981 said:

I'll park in a disabled its usually only for a minute or 10 just like I park in parent and child. Normal spaces aren't big enough, and under no cost am I gonna take a chance getting a ding in any car I'm driving. If people had respect for others I'd be happy to follow the rules. But in this day and age you either look after yourself or get disappointed.

You tell yourself that it other people’s fault that you don’t follow the rules.

[borcy]

roadend1981 said:

If people had respect for others .

<snip>

You could start yourself.

[meatballs]

borcy said:

You could start yourself.

Full marks for honesty at least.

[Hol]

Scrump said:

roadend1981 said:

I'll park in a disabled its usually only for a minute or 10 just like I park in parent and child. Normal spaces aren't big enough, and under no cost am I gonna take a chance getting a ding in any car I'm driving. If people had respect for others I'd be happy to follow the rules. But in this day and age you either look after yourself or get disappointed.

You tell yourself that it other people’s fault that you don’t follow the rules.

I have returned three new cars these last five year’s without one single dent. They get left in a public car park all day.

One of my cars was damaged, but it was by some bell end who parked over the line and disliked me taking the very last available space.

[mikeswagon]

I used a toilet with disabled access on Sunday at TECA, I was wearing a kilt and needed to sort the insoles on my brogues... and I'm a Ginger, surely that qualifies me.

Parking in a space you're not entitled too, nope, stupidity is not a registered disability.

[swisstoni]

roadend1981 said:

I'll park in a disabled its usually only for a minute or 10 just like I park in parent and child. Normal spaces aren't big enough, and under no cost am I gonna take a chance getting a ding in any car I'm driving. If people had respect for others I'd be happy to follow the rules. But in this day and age you either look after yourself or get disappointed.

Remarkable.

[Electronicpants]

stuartmmcfc said:

An interesting article about why accessible toilets are for use for anyone but why people who don’t have disabilities really shouldn’t use them if they can help it.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/30/by-using-the-disabl...

https://youtu.be/dDZzl9AyXeg

[nonsequitur]

Hol said:

And it’s a very good question.

Wasn’t there a publicised case fairly recently about a ‘relative’ who although able bodied , was repeatedly using a blue badge to go shopping without the disabled person in the car?
The justification being the existence of the badge itself.

Personally, if I drive my mother anywhere in her car ( with a blue badge affixed) I always drop her at the door and park elsewhere.

The person to whom the badge applies must be in the vehicle. There were tens of thousands of prosecutions for blue badge abuse last year. And you get a criminal record,

[nonsequitur]

swisstoni said:

roadend1981 said:

I'll park in a disabled its usually only for a minute or 10 just like I park in parent and child. Normal spaces aren't big enough, and under no cost am I gonna take a chance getting a ding in any car I'm driving. If people had respect for others I'd be happy to follow the rules. But in this day and age you either look after yourself or get disappointed.

Remarkable.

And a shocking attitude to life in general. I'm sure that other 'rules of society', are conveniently forgotten.

[HTP99]

stuartmmcfc said:

An interesting article about why accessible toilets are for use for anyone but why people who don’t have disabilities really shouldn’t use them if they can help it.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/30/by-using-the-disabl...

I used a disabled toilet in October in Krakow airport, only because I was desperate for a no. 2 and none of the traps in the normal loo's had any paper, the disabled loo did.

Apart from then I don't think I've ever used one.

[David87]

nonsequitur said:

Quick question. Electric space / car: Parking without charging. Only parking with charging?

It's very much frowned upon to park an EV in an electric space and not be charging. Poor form indeed.

[Jaguar steve]

nonsequitur said:

swisstoni said:

roadend1981 said:

I'll park in a disabled its usually only for a minute or 10 just like I park in parent and child. Normal spaces aren't big enough, and under no cost am I gonna take a chance getting a ding in any car I'm driving. If people had respect for others I'd be happy to follow the rules. But in this day and age you either look after yourself or get disappointed.

Remarkable.

And a shocking attitude to life in general. I'm sure that other 'rules of society', are conveniently forgotten.

Only when it suits I suspect.

There's way too many people with exactly that attitude who are way too familiar with their self serving entitlements but who never trouble themselves with a single thought about their responsibilities towards others

But what else to expect with the relentless Chavification of the UK?

[Shakermaker]

Hol said:

I have returned three new cars these last five year’s without one single dent. They get left in a public car park all day.

One of my cars was damaged, but it was by some bell end who parked over the line and disliked me taking the very last available space.

I too haven't got any car park dings or dents on my car in the last few years. There's a scuff on my rear bumper where someone who absolutely wasn't me on a very windy day let a trolley full of shopping blow into it but yeah, no dings in the doors or bodywork.

Are some car doors made of tinfoil or something?

[Evanivitch]

David87 said:

nonsequitur said:

Quick question. Electric space / car: Parking without charging. Only parking with charging?

It's very much frowned upon to park an EV in an electric space and not be charging. Poor form indeed.

Charge blocking (by not charging, or long overstay having finished (especially on a rapid) is a big issue.

[popeyewhite]

I'm ashamed to say I think if I was on a quick shop and the carpark was completely chocca and only disabled spaces were availlable I'd nick one for a couple of minutes. One factor that causes me great conflict is my mother is a disabled badge holder, though she wouldn't shop where I do.