RE: TVR - 'never say never'

[Mr Whippy]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Twincam16 said:

Stick with the recipe and don't change the fundamentals. Improve the reliability, handling, power etc, but never change the plastic-bodied-V8-engined-manual-gearbox-no-electronics-animal bit. Build only as many cars as you suspect you will sell.

I thought Mr Chevrolet was planning to do that with a properly engineered car for global markets and selling 25,000 of them every year at about £60k.

And isn't Mr Jaguar planning to intervene at the party with a very similar recipe?

Still, maybe a few Brits in a shed can do better.

Chevrolet maybe, but Jaguar making a manual car without electric nannying? And plastic panels?

Not that I have a thing against plastic panels, makes worrying about rust etc 10 years down the line less of a worry...

[900T-R]

Mr Whippy said:

Chevrolet maybe, but Jaguar making a manual car without electric nannying? And plastic panels?

And would Chevrolet make a car that doesn't feel sodding huge to a slim European like yours truly, and can't be mistaken for a $20K rental special inside?

Come on folks, ever parked a T350 or Sagaris next to a Vette? Chalk and cheese come to mind (for the record I like both, but if asked which one to take home there can only be one answer and it's not the GM product even if it's a gazillion sconds faster on an imaginary lap of some race track).

[Jasandjules]

DonkeyApple said:

TJW said:

Anybody have a contact number for TVR?

666

That is certainly what it sounds like when I start her up...

[GTRene]

also in Germany>>

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/tvr-comeba...

[JonRB]

Ozzie Osmond said:

I thought Mr Chevrolet was planning to do that with a properly engineered car for global markets and selling 25,000 of them every year at about £60k.

And isn't Mr Jaguar planning to intervene at the party with a very similar recipe?

Still, maybe a few Brits in a shed can do better.

Jesus. Do you have to be a wker on every thread you "contribute" on?

[TVR1]

I thought I recognised the name and remember the emails back in 2005.

The Cyprus connection...

http://companycheck.co.uk/director/913921571

[DonkeyApple]

TVR1 said:

I thought I recognised the name and remember the emails back in 2005.

The Cyprus connection...

http://companycheck.co.uk/director/913921571

Looks like a nominee.

[TVR1]

DonkeyApple said:

Looks like a nominee.

Of course it's a nominee.

But why would you use one, unless.......

[Mr Whippy]

900T-R said:

Mr Whippy said:

Chevrolet maybe, but Jaguar making a manual car without electric nannying? And plastic panels?

And would Chevrolet make a car that doesn't feel sodding huge to a slim European like yours truly, and can't be mistaken for a $20K rental special inside?

Come on folks, ever parked a T350 or Sagaris next to a Vette? Chalk and cheese come to mind (for the record I like both, but if asked which one to take home there can only be one answer and it's not the GM product even if it's a gazillion sconds faster on an imaginary lap of some race track).

Chevrolet maybe hehe

But still probably not


But I can't blame them. Uber narrow market... that is why anything that fills it is 'like' a TVR... so it's a gap waiting to be re-filled I guess.

Dave

[otolith]

Same old st, only Porsche or their imitators deserve to be in business.

[Mr Whippy]

otolith said:

Same old st, only Porsche or their imitators deserve to be in business.

Really?

Be in business selling sports cars to people with no imagination? Yes it's a big demographic but there is a smaller demographic out there who want something a bit more interesting.

Dave

[Ozzie Osmond]

Mr Whippy said:

there is a smaller demographic out there who want something a bit more interesting.

Unfortunately they tend to sit in their bedrooms dreaming at a computer keyboard rather than buying cars in the real world. Otherwise they would be out buying this car, properly engineered for sale worldwide, and meeting other human beings.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/22/2013-perana-z-o...

[DonkeyApple]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Mr Whippy said:

there is a smaller demographic out there who want something a bit more interesting.

Unfortunately they tend to sit in their bedrooms dreaming at a computer keyboard rather than buying cars in the real world. Otherwise they would be out buying this car, properly engineered for sale worldwide, and meeting other human beings.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/22/2013-perana-z-o...

Or it could just be that at £100k+ people just don't want an American engine in their car.

[Blown2CV]

DonkeyApple said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Mr Whippy said:

there is a smaller demographic out there who want something a bit more interesting.

Unfortunately they tend to sit in their bedrooms dreaming at a computer keyboard rather than buying cars in the real world. Otherwise they would be out buying this car, properly engineered for sale worldwide, and meeting other human beings.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/22/2013-perana-z-o...

Or it could just be that at £100k+ people just don't want an American engine in their car.

it's a fair point... at least in Europe.

[DonkeyApple]

Blown2CV said:

DonkeyApple said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Mr Whippy said:

there is a smaller demographic out there who want something a bit more interesting.

Unfortunately they tend to sit in their bedrooms dreaming at a computer keyboard rather than buying cars in the real world. Otherwise they would be out buying this car, properly engineered for sale worldwide, and meeting other human beings.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/22/2013-perana-z-o...

Or it could just be that at £100k+ people just don't want an American engine in their car.

it's a fair point... at least in Europe.

I think the LS is a fantastic design. But public perception is on the other side. At a certain price level they are basically laughed at. It's unfounded but the case. If you are selling a product above a key level you can't fight popular perception of the people in that bracket.

LS is perfect if they are going cheap but if they want the luxury interiors and to build on where the brand left off it would be suicide.

Offer a mainstream, high end drive train. Frankly, it doesn't even need to be British. I think a relaunched TVR would actually be accepted if it used something from AMG etc. especially if they plan overseas sales. But I'd prefer a Jag or Aston unit and all the associated tuning packages already available and awaiting rebranding and selling as upgrades.

[otolith]

Mr Whippy said:

otolith said:

Same old st, only Porsche or their imitators deserve to be in business.

Really?

Be in business selling sports cars to people with no imagination? Yes it's a big demographic but there is a smaller demographic out there who want something a bit more interesting.

Dave

No, not really, rolly-eyes smiley indicative of sarcasm
Porsche's product and business model are successful, which seems to lead to people who like Porsches thinking everyone should make Porsches. See Lotus threads passim.

[Ozzie Osmond]

otolith said:

Porsche's product and business model are successful, which seems to lead to people who like Porsches thinking everyone should make Porsches. See Lotus threads passim.

If we try to make a list of successful sub-£100k sportscar builders who aren't called Porsche, what names are on it?

[otolith]

Those who want a Porsche can buy one. The world doesn't need any more.

[vrooom]

Next tvr?



those software guy made a game based on those car, Carmageddon.

[Convert]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Unfortunately they tend to sit in their bedrooms dreaming at a computer keyboard rather than buying cars in the real world. Otherwise they would be out buying this car, properly engineered for sale worldwide, and meeting other human beings.

Oh do feel free to fk right off.

I've met quite a few people through my TVR, in fact there were several hundred of them @ Chatsworth this year.


Ps Let us know when you've saved up enough to trade your coxster in for a proper Porsche...