RE: Ford Focus RS - full details

[dc2rr07]

Ryvita said:

Hmm, maybe it's just me, or because of the colour, but, if you take the big plastic gumshield out of its mouth, and turn the grill upside-down... No?

that was my thought exactly, the spec sheet may be the business but them looks are not for me.

[22Rgt]

AdamBingley said:

There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

Agree. Not only that though its still just a white goods Ford and will never have the image a German made vehicle does.
Re the looks, very fugly from the front, far too much going on and looks a very lame attempt. Could easily be mistaken for a Korean offering. Still, it will sell by the bucket load and be stuck to your rear bumper by all the Baz's and Gaz's out there desperately trying to prove a point..

[Tickle]

22Rgt said:

Agree. Not only that though its still just a white goods Ford and will never have the image a German made vehicle does.
Re the looks, very fugly from the front, far too much going on and looks a very lame attempt. Could easily be mistaken for a Korean offering. Still, it will sell by the bucket load and be stuck to your rear bumper by all the Baz's and Gaz's out there..

I would say that German cars are just as white goods product as any other commuter/family/general car manufacturer. The amount of entry level A3s, A4s, Golfs, A class etc that are on the roads at the moment must be an all time high for German cars.

Edited by Tickle on Wednesday 4th February 20:32

[Olivera]

22Rgt said:

AdamBingley said:

There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

Agree. Not only that though its still just a white goods Ford and will never have the image a German made vehicle does.

What 'image' does the Golf R purport to have? It's a good car but Golfs are as ubiquitous as the Focus and the R is being punted out by the PCP load. If anything the RS lineage has a longer and more illustrious history.

[J4CKO]

Olivera said:

22Rgt said:

AdamBingley said:

There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

Agree. Not only that though its still just a white goods Ford and will never have the image a German made vehicle does.

What 'image' does the Golf R purport to have? It's a good car but Golfs are as ubiquitous as the Focus and the R is being punted out by the PCP load. If anything the RS lineage has a longer and more illustrious history.

I was in Aldi car park and a Golf R came flying into the car park way too fast, out jumps a young lad (early twenties) in sportswear, perhaps the demographic is changing ?

[Tickle]

J4CKO said:

I was in Aldi car park and a Golf R came flying into the car park way too fast, out jumps a young lad (early twenties) in sportswear, perhaps the demographic is changing ?

The times are truly changing.... A golf driver..... shopping at Aldi

[idibbers]

J4CKO said:

I was in Aldi car park and a Golf R came flying into the car park way too fast, out jumps a young lad (early twenties) in sportswear, perhaps the demographic is changing ?

Crewe Aldi? White 3dr Golf R?

[BugLebowski]

22Rgt said:

Agree. Not only that though its still just a white goods Ford and will never have the image a German made vehicle does.
Re the looks, very fugly from the front, far too much going on and looks a very lame attempt. Could easily be mistaken for a Korean offering. Still, it will sell by the bucket load and be stuck to your rear bumper by all the Baz's and Gaz's out there desperately trying to prove a point..

Well we can always count on Bravo two zero to weigh in with an interesting view point

[Escort3500]

Every generation of hot hatches has had a bit of a chav image and this one'll be no different, but the performance package it offers more than compensates, and good on Ford for still making this sort of car. If I was younger I'd be very tempted, even if the front is absolutely gopping

[ToothbrushMan]

Golf R driver was shopping at Aldi so he could afford to put fuel in his car. sod it if all he eats is cardboard for dinner lol......

[egor110]

BugLebowski said:

22Rgt said:

Agree. Not only that though its still just a white goods Ford and will never have the image a German made vehicle does.
Re the looks, very fugly from the front, far too much going on and looks a very lame attempt. Could easily be mistaken for a Korean offering. Still, it will sell by the bucket load and be stuck to your rear bumper by all the Baz's and Gaz's out there desperately trying to prove a point..

Well we can always count on Bravo two zero to weigh in with an interesting view point

Surely ford have always provided fast cars that the working class can afford?

[Escort Si-130]

You got him by the balls, lol

Caught with his pants down. Nothing wrong with being biased...

RyanTank said:

AdamBingley said:

There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

the ST's interior's vile and don't get me started on the rattles.

but.. if your a ford fan-boy it does look good.

6 speed manual even with 320 HP will be slower than the DSG in an R.

You've been lurking here for 3 years, looking every time a Focus RS announcement is made, hoping and wishing it was 4wd, just to make that post about a golf R being better haven't you!

A quick look at the profile and he drives a Golf R. coincidence?

[Escort Si-130]

hahahahahhaaha

J4CKO said:

BugLebowski said:

Well it didn't take long for the insecure Golf R owners to show up!

I know, "the rough boys from the estate who take my lunch money have dirty dirty Ford cars, and nits, and they smoke and drink beer you know"

[CAFEDEAD]

dinz said:

I understand that a lot of cars use plastic body panels, but i've never had one that flexes so badly when being washed! I'll never forget the first time I washed it, I just couldn't put any pressure on the front wings through fear of caving them in!

Minimal body panel flex when washing a car is a fair way down my list of priorities...

This RS sounds like a great revision of the Focus to me. Stealth grey'll do.

[Escort Si-130]

I also said the same thing, but your usual PH bullst keyboard drivers were convinced it was FWD.

JD PH said:

I hate to say this but... I TOLD YOU SO!

In the very first page of the original article I said it looked 4WD in the video. Where are all the nay-sayers now hmmmmmmmm?

I've never felt much of a pull towards the Focus RS but I properly, desperately, urgently need a go in one of these. Ford are absolutely on it right now...

[Escort Si-130]

The new St Diesel is to be offered in dual clutch later this year.

BlindandLost said:

jonm01 said:

How come Ford don't have a slick semi-auto gear box? Surely it's de-rigeur on a modern performance car? All the rivals have it with the option of a manual if you still want it.

I completely agree! It's so annoying that they don't even offer it! I can't drive manuals due to using hand controls and it's so frustrating that I'll never be able to drive a Focus RS! If they did, I'd have one in a heartbeat.

It's the same with the ST. I've been after an estate car recently and if the ST was available with their Powershift there would have been no competition, I'd have had one. VW, Audi, Mercedes etc. all offer dual-clutch autos on their quick models as it's becoming expected these days. I can't believe Ford are missing out on loads of potential custom by refusing to offer it...

[Escort Si-130]

Erm your definitely alone. May I suggest specsavers.

C.A.R. said:

I normally berate others for doing this in the sense that we all know 'modern cars all look the same' but the first thing to cross my mind upon seeing the images earlier today was...



Perhaps I am alone?

[Escort Si-130]

Do yourself and go buy a Prius, you boring person

Crafty_ said:

That front end is horrid, it looks like those horrible aftermarket bumpers that kids were bolting to the front of novas/saxos etc a few years ago - they looked crap then, don't look any better now.

As someone else said, I find only a 20kg weight penalty for the 4x4 hard to believe.
I don't like the 5 door thing either, they should at least offer a 3 door version.

I still can't get my head around a Golf/Focus etc costing north of £30k. I suppose I'm getting old but its a hell of a lot of money for a tarted up hatch.

The whole point of hot hatches was they were tarted up hatches with good performance/stand out looks for (relatively) little money compared to performance/sports cars. I think the manufacturers have lost the plot somewhere along the way.

The Ford boys will buy this in their droves, because they always do but I can't really see the attraction.

[J4CKO]

idibbers said:

J4CKO said:

I was in Aldi car park and a Golf R came flying into the car park way too fast, out jumps a young lad (early twenties) in sportswear, perhaps the demographic is changing ?

Crewe Aldi? White 3dr Golf R?

3 door, white but Knutsford Aldi.

[lee_erm]

The people suggesting Ford are some budget, hugely inferior product, driven solely by people called Gary are definitely Conservative voters. The sort of Conservative voter that would point blank refuse to enter Tesco or Asda, and absolutely decry the fact they were brought up on a council estate. They'll also wax lyrical about how nice the interior is on there Audi A3 whilst in work, whilst said A3 is in the garage. Probably for another flywheel, or a set of injectors, or an electrical fault, or a light on the dash.

Edited by lee_erm on Wednesday 4th February 22:31