Neighbour been round to show gang scoping my car last night

[djc206]

8V085 said:

Pull out his AK and blow them away? Oh sorry I forgot, they have hooomane writes.

If he were allowed an AK the crims would have one too.

As a farmer though you’d think he would have a shotgun. Problem is with these sorts of thefts it’s often travellers and you don’t want to start a blood feud with them over an insured item.

[8V085]

djc206 said:

8V085 said:

Pull out his AK and blow them away? Oh sorry I forgot, they have hooomane writes.

If he were allowed an AK the crims would have one too.

As a farmer though you’d think he would have a shotgun. Problem is with these sorts of thefts it’s often travellers and you don’t want to start a blood feud with them over an insured item.

I love going to Texas, you can sense that special kind of respect that people have for eachother, since they know fking about can end up in tears. Of course there are exceptions in case anyone jumps on me for lying.

[MrBrightSi]

"it's only metal"

"let them have it"

What a sad state we've become, i can't complain this opinion on the issue to be honest, you are very right to think like that. What gets me is that we've sunk so low we're getting a South Africa style mindset to car jackings and creeper thieves, in a country where even the 90's this was a rarity for gangs to be so violent and default to weapons etc we just lie back and adjust to it as if it ever was.

Why have we become such pussies in regards to policy/law/politics over these people?

Also, these things aren't just metal, they're a labour of love a material part of your life and time spent earning the monies to buy, why should we allow the sacrifice of peoples lifetime and hard work just because we want to be soft on crime?

[djc206]

8V085 said:

I love going to Texas, you can sense that special kind of respect that people have for eachother, since they know fking about can end up in tears. Of course there are exceptions in case anyone jumps on me for lying.

I’ve been to Texas two years in a row. Their attitude towards firearms whilst understandable given their history doesn’t work well for them. They have 5 times the murder rate the U.K. does and last year suffered their most deadly mass shooting in history.

Edit: sorry keep forgetting it’s 2018, it was last year

Edited by djc206 on Thursday 11th January 20:02

[MC Bodge]

MrBrightSi said:

"it's only metal"

"let them have it"

What a sad state we've become, i can't complain this opinion on the issue to be honest, you are very right to think like that. What gets me is that we've sunk so low we're getting a South Africa style mindset to car jackings and creeper thieves, in a country where even the 90's this was a rarity for gangs to be so violent and default to weapons etc we just lie back and adjust to it as if it ever was.

Why have we become such pussies in regards to policy/law/politics over these people?

Also, these things aren't just metal, they're a labour of love a material part of your life and time spent earning the monies to buy, why should we allow the sacrifice of peoples lifetime and hard work just because we want to be soft on crime?

We must be aware that the Internet/social media makes us more aware of such incidents.

Society seems to me less violent (and less theft/burglary) on the whole than it was 20-30 years ago.

Car theft is much rarer than it was.

Up until the 90s/00s, most cars had laughable security.

I remember seeing burnt out cars on wasteland all over the place as a child. It is very rare nowadays.

Stealing modern cars requires the keys, so in order for somebody to take the car the keys need to be obtained by the thieves -by various methods

They wouldn't now normally bother going to great lengths for a 10 year old bog-standard hatchback, although 90s joyriders would have made off with a mk2 Astra 1.3.

A chap that was known to colleagues of mine was killed when thieves ran him over in his S3 in Manchester. Is it worth dying for?

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 11th January 22:31

[Evanivitch]

8V085 said:

I love going to Texas, you can sense that special kind of respect that people have for eachother, since they know fking about can end up in tears. Of course there are exceptions in case anyone jumps on me for lying.

The special kind of respect that keeps the homicide rate really, really low?

Like 4 times that of the UK, at a stretch. That's some special kind of respect.

[MC Bodge]

Evanivitch said:

8V085 said:

I love going to Texas, you can sense that special kind of respect that people have for eachother, since they know fking about can end up in tears. Of course there are exceptions in case anyone jumps on me for lying.

The special kind of respect that keeps the homicide rate really, really low?

Like 4 times that of the UK, at a stretch. That's some special kind of respect.

Let the guy have his apple pie and cowboys fantasy.

[CS Garth]

stichill99 said:

Do not underestimate how nasty the thieves could be. I had a friend who was woken up in the early hours hearing his quad bike driving out the farmyard. He jumped out of bed and shouted on his son to get up. The farm is beside a main road and they didn't know which way the quad went so father went North and son went South.
Father came up behind the quad tucked in behind a transit van so it could not be seen from oncoming traffic. Father drove his landcruiser to disturb the quad and get it stopped. He got out truck when the thief took out a knife and said ' If you want to see tomorrow get back in your car and f**k off! What else could he do?

A) Roundhouse, perp on the floor. Wedgie him until his likely supermarket branded kegs splice his ballsack in twain. Get on the quad, wheelie it off and then bum his mum in her caravan.

Or

B) follow at a safe distance while calling 999 and guiding the police to their location

[Leptons]

Elroy Blue said:

Well my small Roads Policing unit that averages around 15 Officers on duty at any one time, covering a massive area recovered 1429 stolen vehicles last year, so maybe not that useless.

Recovering a stolen car is not the same as catching the Perps, properly investigating the thefts though is it. Recovering a stolen car could mean literally anything from finding a torched wreck to a tracker company reporting a signal from a stolen car to a member of the public reporting an abondoned Car.

I’m sure the Police will be very interested though if it turns out the OPs neighbours CCTV is pointing the wrong direction...

[anonymous-user]

M666 EVO said:

What worries me more is that is all over a Golf R. What can you expect if you own a Ferrari? Or something extremely desirable?

Golf R's, S3's etc are way, way more desirable to car thieves than a Ferrari or something like that.

Let's say you went and stole a Ferrari 430. What the fk would you actually do with it? It stands out like a sore thumb, can't be used for crime, can't be sold on, and no one would want the parts from it without knowing the far end of a fart as to where they came from.

I've parked modern Porsches, Classic (and valuable) Porsches, Aston Martins and all sorts on my driveway for years and genuinely never given the possibility of car theft a thought.

I would happily leave a Ferrari on my driveway or parked on the street.

In the event I ever owned something that people wanted to steal like a Golf R or Range Rover, I would absolutely have it fitted with a timed immobiliser. The type of device that lets a thief get 1 mile down the road in it before it simply cuts out and stops.

That would pretty much solve the issue I would have thought?

[8V085]

Lord Marylebone said:

In the event I ever owned something that people wanted to steal like a Golf R or Range Rover, I would absolutely have it fitted with a timed immobiliser. The type of device that lets a thief get 1 mile down the road in it before it simply cuts out and stops.

That would pretty much solve the issue I would have thought?

That would be illegal because it could lead to a potentially fatal accident if the car cut out in the middle of a junction or a railway crossing.

[anonymous-user]

8V085 said:

Lord Marylebone said:

In the event I ever owned something that people wanted to steal like a Golf R or Range Rover, I would absolutely have it fitted with a timed immobiliser. The type of device that lets a thief get 1 mile down the road in it before it simply cuts out and stops.

That would pretty much solve the issue I would have thought?

That would be illegal because it could lead to a potentially fatal accident if the car cut out in the middle of a junction or a railway crossing.

Nonsense.

Clifford supply such an alarm/immobiliser:

http://www.clifford.co.uk/ProductPages/Accessories...

"BlackJax 5 terminates carjackings by allowing the criminal to drive away in your car a safe distance before safely shutting the engine down. With siren blaring and lights flashing, the thief has no choice but to abandon your vehicle"

[e28525e]

CS Garth said:

stichill99 said:

Do not underestimate how nasty the thieves could be. I had a friend who was woken up in the early hours hearing his quad bike driving out the farmyard. He jumped out of bed and shouted on his son to get up. The farm is beside a main road and they didn't know which way the quad went so father went North and son went South.
Father came up behind the quad tucked in behind a transit van so it could not be seen from oncoming traffic. Father drove his landcruiser to disturb the quad and get it stopped. He got out truck when the thief took out a knife and said ' If you want to see tomorrow get back in your car and f**k off! What else could he do?

A) Roundhouse, perp on the floor. Wedgie him until his likely supermarket branded kegs splice his ballsack in twain. Get on the quad, wheelie it off and then bum his mum in her caravan.

Or

B) follow at a safe distance while calling 999 and guiding the police to their location

[alorotom]

Lord Marylebone said:

Nonsense.

Clifford supply such an alarm/immobiliser:

http://www.clifford.co.uk/ProductPages/Accessories...

"BlackJax 5 terminates carjackings by allowing the criminal to drive away in your car a safe distance before safely shutting the engine down. With siren blaring and lights flashing, the thief has no choice but to abandon your vehicle"

That’s for carjacking NOT theft and is only active when the cars been running so totally useless in this scenario

[anonymous-user]

alorotom said:

Lord Marylebone said:

Nonsense.

Clifford supply such an alarm/immobiliser:

http://www.clifford.co.uk/ProductPages/Accessories...

"BlackJax 5 terminates carjackings by allowing the criminal to drive away in your car a safe distance before safely shutting the engine down. With siren blaring and lights flashing, the thief has no choice but to abandon your vehicle"

That’s for carjacking NOT theft and is only active when the cars been running so totally useless in this scenario

Not true, it also works where the car has been stolen with keys and started, then driven off.

Every time the vehicle is started or has a door opened a code must be tapped into a hidden button.

If it isn't, then the system allows the car to drive away for around 1 minute before shutting down the engine and sounding the horn and lights.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 12th January 08:33

[sir humphrey appleby]

petjam said:

I would certainly put a large note in the windscreen saying "This car goes back to the hire company tomorrow"

You don't want them thinking you have just parked it elsewhere causing them to potentially break in and force you to tell them where it is.

Pointless, I doubt the scrotes can read.

[havoc]

Lord Marylebone said:

If it isn't, then the system allows the car to drive away for around 1 minute before shutting down the engine and sounding the horn and lights.

Which in our neighbourhood would just about get them to the main road, 5 minutes walk away. Not far enough away for (my / my family's) safety.

If they really want your car, they're going to find a way to take it. Best bet is to make it so difficult they look elsewhere for easier pickings - most 'casual' thieves are pretty lazy / risk-averse.

Did we work out in the OP's situation if they showed up twice (once to scope, second time intending to steal but thwarted by OP's actions), or three times (which would be unusually determined)?

[FiF]

Frankly if a tracker type thing could be arranged to immobilise the vehicle on a level crossing directly in front of a bulk freight train, where does one sign up?

Not entirely serious obviously.

[InitialDave]

FiF said:

Frankly if a tracker type thing could be arranged to immobilise the vehicle on a level crossing directly in front of a bulk freight train, where does one sign up?

Not entirely serious obviously.

Spare a thought for the poor bugger driving the train, at least. And the guys who have to clean up.

[fakenews]

OP, any updates from the neighbour?

Hoping you didn't have to dominate a structure to transcend vertical distance.