Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)
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Interesting to see the early viewing numbers on the cullinan video
Shmee leads with 27k views after c. 5 hours,
MrJWW behind with 14k views after c. 4 hours
STG on 8k views after 3 hours.
Not a huge spread given the differences in sub count between them. I wonder how many of Tims subs never get the notifications because they subbed before the notification bell was introduced.
Edit probably doesn't help STG and JWW that they were in the car together, so if you watched one there isn't much point watching the other.
Also to add - JWW came up first place on my recommended list, and STG was number 5 in the sidebar - Shmee wasn't in either despite the fact I've watched probably as many of his videos as JWW and more than STG - the strange workings of the Y't algos clearly don't weight Tim's bigger view count, sub count or viewing numbers - which I guess is good news for people trying to grow channels, but not such good news for heavyweights like Tim )
Shmee leads with 27k views after c. 5 hours,
MrJWW behind with 14k views after c. 4 hours
STG on 8k views after 3 hours.
Not a huge spread given the differences in sub count between them. I wonder how many of Tims subs never get the notifications because they subbed before the notification bell was introduced.
Edit probably doesn't help STG and JWW that they were in the car together, so if you watched one there isn't much point watching the other.
Also to add - JWW came up first place on my recommended list, and STG was number 5 in the sidebar - Shmee wasn't in either despite the fact I've watched probably as many of his videos as JWW and more than STG - the strange workings of the Y't algos clearly don't weight Tim's bigger view count, sub count or viewing numbers - which I guess is good news for people trying to grow channels, but not such good news for heavyweights like Tim )
Edited by nyxster on Sunday 7th October 15:23
nyxster said:
Interesting to see the early viewing numbers on the cullinan video
Shmee leads with 27k views after c. 5 hours,
MrJWW behind with 14k views after c. 4 hours
STG on 8k views after 3 hours.
Thought my stats might be interesting. Shmee leads with 27k views after c. 5 hours,
MrJWW behind with 14k views after c. 4 hours
STG on 8k views after 3 hours.
Mr JWW and STG both in my subscriptions list but Shmee doesn't show at all even though I am subscribed. I don't use the bell.
Mr JWW - 27k views - 11 hours
STG - 18k views - 9 hours
Shmee - 65k views - 11 hours
nyxster said:
I wonder how many of Tims subs never get the notifications because they subbed before the notification bell was introduced.
I've never understood this whole notification bell thing. If you subscribe to channels, you can see every video they upload in the Subscriptions tab. Thats how I've always kept up to date with my subscriptions. Getting notifications every time a video is uploaded would drive me insane. WarrenB said:
I've never understood this whole notification bell thing. If you subscribe to channels, you can see every video they upload in the Subscriptions tab. Thats how I've always kept up to date with my subscriptions. Getting notifications every time a video is uploaded would drive me insane.
Each to their own - the great thing with the notification bell is that it makes it an optional, opt-in choice. I have notifications on for some of my subscriptions, for others I'm happy to find their new content as I check my subscriptions feed. Why? Some of the content I like to see when it's available, others I'll see and watch later (though I still want to know about it).I totally understand why notifications could bug people, hence why them being optional on a per-account basis is the perfect solution, everybody wins.
Very interesting with the Cullinan videos. Obviously our team of intrepid Youtubers shared the cars and filmed their own sections etc..
Very noticeable that Shmee filmed and edited himself in only while the others made a point of almost ‘co presenting’ each other’s videos.
Not a criticism per se, but I must admit I found it rather dry compared to the others who were together.
Shmee, any particular reason for doing it that way vs the co presenting style?
Very noticeable that Shmee filmed and edited himself in only while the others made a point of almost ‘co presenting’ each other’s videos.
Not a criticism per se, but I must admit I found it rather dry compared to the others who were together.
Shmee, any particular reason for doing it that way vs the co presenting style?
WhisperingWasp said:
Tim/Shmee,
Quick question about the ads which I often wonder about... would I be right in thinking you get the income (or at least more) if the ad is watched in full? Similarly is there a sacrifice to income if you allow the skip ad function? Presume you choose this? If someone watches 5 seconds and skips presumably the income is minimal or non-existent?
For what it’s worth I always let yours play out as I feel your content is worth you being rewarded. My logic may be flawed though!
All the best.
I don't actually know the precise ways in which advert viewership translates into earnings on YouTube to be completely honest. I am sure that there is a reward based on full viewership as opposed to instantly skipping when the opportunity presents itself but I couldn't tell you if there's a halfway house or multiple stages within the spectrum.Quick question about the ads which I often wonder about... would I be right in thinking you get the income (or at least more) if the ad is watched in full? Similarly is there a sacrifice to income if you allow the skip ad function? Presume you choose this? If someone watches 5 seconds and skips presumably the income is minimal or non-existent?
For what it’s worth I always let yours play out as I feel your content is worth you being rewarded. My logic may be flawed though!
All the best.
When it comes to having the option to skip an advert or not, that is not something that I directly control from the channel side. There is simply the option to have unskippable adverts enabled or not; but it isn't selected per different advert in any way. Ultimately the adverts you can't skip will play at a completely viewed rate which is significantly higher, and by the channel having grown more these will be presented more frequently due to the larger and higher spending companies targeting my channel or videos specifically.
In any case, I appreciate your patience when it comes to viewing the adverts, it definitely equates to something and for that, thank you.
ReaperCushions said:
Very interesting with the Cullinan videos. Obviously our team of intrepid Youtubers shared the cars and filmed their own sections etc..
Very noticeable that Shmee filmed and edited himself in only while the others made a point of almost ‘co presenting’ each other’s videos.
Not a criticism per se, but I must admit I found it rather dry compared to the others who were together.
Shmee, any particular reason for doing it that way vs the co presenting style?
Yes, a very simple reason - my content is about the cars, not about the people.Very noticeable that Shmee filmed and edited himself in only while the others made a point of almost ‘co presenting’ each other’s videos.
Not a criticism per se, but I must admit I found it rather dry compared to the others who were together.
Shmee, any particular reason for doing it that way vs the co presenting style?
Of course channels take different paths, and YouTubers will choose to do it in different ways, but for me it's about creating a content piece to really get into all of the details and show everything I can about a new model like this. In the videos that have released today, you've got a very similar format shown across multiple channels and as a result it's actually quite repetitive and tiresome for the viewer to watch through each one.
I would not say on a video like this I am targeting 'entertainment' in the way that JWW and STG would do so, in fact I'm not going to try to compete with them because I wouldn't be able to do it as well. My forte is explaining, demonstrating, giving some technical information and fully covering aspects of a new vehicle in an 'informative' way. I don't view it as a content piece for only my regular subscribers to watch when it goes live and to never be seen again, but more a long term information video covering lots of detail about a car that has its entire life span ahead of it.
At the end of the day, one creates a style over time and for me this is where I've gravitated; it's a type of content I enjoy making and the audience/statistics say that people enjoy watching it too.
Shmee said:
ReaperCushions said:
Very interesting with the Cullinan videos. Obviously our team of intrepid Youtubers shared the cars and filmed their own sections etc..
Very noticeable that Shmee filmed and edited himself in only while the others made a point of almost ‘co presenting’ each other’s videos.
Not a criticism per se, but I must admit I found it rather dry compared to the others who were together.
Shmee, any particular reason for doing it that way vs the co presenting style?
Yes, a very simple reason - my content is about the cars, not about the people.Very noticeable that Shmee filmed and edited himself in only while the others made a point of almost ‘co presenting’ each other’s videos.
Not a criticism per se, but I must admit I found it rather dry compared to the others who were together.
Shmee, any particular reason for doing it that way vs the co presenting style?
Of course channels take different paths, and YouTubers will choose to do it in different ways, but for me it's about creating a content piece to really get into all of the details and show everything I can about a new model like this. In the videos that have released today, you've got a very similar format shown across multiple channels and as a result it's actually quite repetitive and tiresome for the viewer to watch through each one.
I would not say on a video like this I am targeting 'entertainment' in the way that JWW and STG would do so, in fact I'm not going to try to compete with them because I wouldn't be able to do it as well. My forte is explaining, demonstrating, giving some technical information and fully covering aspects of a new vehicle in an 'informative' way. I don't view it as a content piece for only my regular subscribers to watch when it goes live and to never be seen again, but more a long term information video covering lots of detail about a car that has its entire life span ahead of it.
At the end of the day, one creates a style over time and for me this is where I've gravitated; it's a type of content I enjoy making and the audience/statistics say that people enjoy watching it too.
Anyway.. i watched and enjoyed them all, so that means you all got it right for your particular styles.
ashleyman said:
nyxster said:
Interesting to see the early viewing numbers on the cullinan video
Shmee leads with 27k views after c. 5 hours,
MrJWW behind with 14k views after c. 4 hours
STG on 8k views after 3 hours.
Thought my stats might be interesting. Shmee leads with 27k views after c. 5 hours,
MrJWW behind with 14k views after c. 4 hours
STG on 8k views after 3 hours.
Mr JWW and STG both in my subscriptions list but Shmee doesn't show at all even though I am subscribed. I don't use the bell.
Mr JWW - 27k views - 11 hours
STG - 18k views - 9 hours
Shmee - 65k views - 11 hours
However, what is also of interest to me is the way that the views arrive in terms of timeliness from publication. The current counts are:
Shmee - 150k
MrJWW - 56k
STG - 41k
SOL - 30k
These numbers are of course roughly linked to subscriber counts, with the exception of SOL as it's further from his normal content I would say. What I find fascinating to see though (and this is something one doesn't normally directly compare in terms of similar videos realised at the same time) is how much later the views came in on my channel versus others.
We recently had the 600LT launch and similarly there were many people there but at this point, now over 3 weeks later, I have still not yet published my video because I wanted to give it space. I don't know if that means it will be successful or fail, or what the result will be but in any case it's an interesting test so when it goes live I will take a proper look at the viewing numbers it receives.
Beefmeister said:
It’s a well known issue on the Huracan, with a permanent AWD setup the diffs are set to work when all rotating at the same rate. Lots have run 21s on the back and blown diffs. I don’t think he paid for the wheels anyway, so no big loss. They were also the wrong offset as can be seen when they’re fitted.
If that's the case CM wheels are in the wrong game. That said, a quick search threw up plenty of owners running a different profile rear tyre to even things up. US owners seem to be more open to modding their super cars so you'd imagine a bit more research might have been prudent? So much good content from Hoonigan lately.
e30m3Mark said:
If that's the case CM wheels are in the wrong game. That said, a quick search threw up plenty of owners running a different profile rear tyre to even things up. US owners seem to be more open to modding their super cars so you'd imagine a bit more research might have been prudent?
So much good content from Hoonigan lately.
There are thousands who have now heard of CM who hadn’t before, so it’s not really bad for them. So much good content from Hoonigan lately.
Archie does admit that he’s not the most mechanically minded, yes a little more research would’ve probably been wise.
Shmee said:
The way it chooses who can see what, when and how, is totally beyond understanding - I'm not sure even YouTube know!
However, what is also of interest to me is the way that the views arrive in terms of timeliness from publication. The current counts are:
Shmee - 150k
MrJWW - 56k
STG - 41k
SOL - 30k
Let's keep the race going!However, what is also of interest to me is the way that the views arrive in terms of timeliness from publication. The current counts are:
Shmee - 150k
MrJWW - 56k
STG - 41k
SOL - 30k
Shmee - 163k
MrJWW - 61k
STG - 44k
SOL - 31k
Enjoyed DDE's new vid this morning and something close to my heart. Haters will say he went round the homeless in a Lambo piffle its his daily and he is using the funds earnt to try and do something more for the homeless.
Good stuff.
btw Shmee this thread got me to see your channel and since then I subscribed and still lovign it keep up the good work.
Good stuff.
btw Shmee this thread got me to see your channel and since then I subscribed and still lovign it keep up the good work.
bones33 said:
Enjoyed DDE's new vid this morning and something close to my heart. Haters will say he went round the homeless in a Lambo piffle its his daily and he is using the funds earnt to try and do something more for the homeless.
Good stuff.
btw Shmee this thread got me to see your channel and since then I subscribed and still lovign it keep up the good work.
He's actually the only one I can't stand Good stuff.
btw Shmee this thread got me to see your channel and since then I subscribed and still lovign it keep up the good work.
Something to do with his stream of clickbait "omg I was stopped by a cop" videos where he acts like a monumental bellend, gets in trouble, then complains about it. It usually seems to revolve around the fact that they don't like the fact he has a canadian license, which he claims is ok because he doesn't live in california but it does look like a very dubious claim to me.That and the fact that he has exposed rear wheels which is a real dick move for the poor people that end up driving behind him. Oh and the driving like an absolute bellend on public roads at every opportunity.
TheAngryDog said:
Chestrockwell said:
LLF’s latest upload is a 560bhp superb, the man reckons it has the same engine as an S3 that’s slightly de tuned however he went and bought a brand new S3 engine from Audi and modified it.
Where does logic apply in this scenario?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1688002Where does logic apply in this scenario?
Really not sure why you'd let that bell end drive it though. Also noticed that he doesn't seem to have adverts on his videos. Would that be his choice or YouTube's?
Edited by TheAngryDog on Saturday 6th October 23:55
I want to like DDE but I really can't. Click bait titles with him moaning at local plod but will then quite happily go do donuts on the highway, consistent full throttle in built up areas and b
dising that poor Huracan is a crime in itself. Recent vid with him buying a car for his wife even she looked bored.
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