What a total ****** ****ing tossing pr*ck
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I remember when a business I worked for was taken over, myself and the divisonal MD were having a cigarette outside when the new group CFO turned up in an old espace, we both turned to each other and said we're fked!(earlier in the day we'd been discussing the company car policy )
Despite his apparent parsimony we went into administration 18 months later.
I have read the op and all I can say is there is always 2 sides to a story...
How much has the boss put in to try and keep business going?
Also I bet a big percentage of employees if offered another job with a small pay rise
would jump at it.
I speak from experience.. A very close friend of mine has just pumped £500k into his
printing business to keep it going and it's going nowhere. His talking about pumping in more.
He has alternative incomes,and is waiting for delivery of a new range rover..
Redundancies are going to have to be made.. Why should he be intimidated in what he
chooses to drive..
How much has the boss put in to try and keep business going?
Also I bet a big percentage of employees if offered another job with a small pay rise
would jump at it.
I speak from experience.. A very close friend of mine has just pumped £500k into his
printing business to keep it going and it's going nowhere. His talking about pumping in more.
He has alternative incomes,and is waiting for delivery of a new range rover..
Redundancies are going to have to be made.. Why should he be intimidated in what he
chooses to drive..
Markhoskins said:
markda said:
In complete contrast, I work for a huge Global Corporate Company, where our EMEA President who is knowingly on almost seven figure salary turns work every day in a very modest circa 9-10 year old silver Mercedes CLK220. A very personable, professional and overall nice guy!
I'm reliably informed he owns some serious exotica with a prancing pony on the bonnet, but chooses not to rub his success in the noses of his employees.
Cobra beer?I'm reliably informed he owns some serious exotica with a prancing pony on the bonnet, but chooses not to rub his success in the noses of his employees.
It's called basic professionalism, something the OP's original example and some of the subsequent examples lack. To clarify there is nothing wrong with sucesss, its the way you conduct yourself with it. Unfortunately I work in an industry where there are plenty of overpaid individuals who often do very little more than rack up large expense claims, equally their are some very good people but these grafters are much harder to come by. The good ones usually just get on with it, the bad ones brag about their success stories and buy cars they can't really afford.
markda said:
No, a very large IT distributor... It's rare to find such modesty in the industry, there are so many loud mouths, loud cars and personal number plates knocking about! Our illustrious leaders integrity does seem to rub off on most of the directors and senior management team which has meant I've been very lucky in the management stakes and equally I return the same level of integrity and modesty to my direct reports.
Ingram? C2000? Westcoast? (can't be westcoast as I'm sure Hemani would turn up in a yacht!)Wills2 said:
markda said:
No, a very large IT distributor... It's rare to find such modesty in the industry, there are so many loud mouths, loud cars and personal number plates knocking about! Our illustrious leaders integrity does seem to rub off on most of the directors and senior management team which has meant I've been very lucky in the management stakes and equally I return the same level of integrity and modesty to my direct reports.
Ingram? C2000? Westcoast? (can't be westcoast as I'm sure Hemani would turn up in a yacht!)paul0843 said:
I have read the op and all I can say is there is always 2 sides to a story...
yep I agree with this, he's probably surrounded by lazy arse employees who spend more time pissing around than doing their job expecting everything to fall in their lap and moaning like old women when it doesn't!His business, his money, his cars, his life.
AndyBrew said:
yep I agree with this, he's probably surrounded by lazy arse employees who spend more time pissing around than doing their job expecting everything to fall in their lap and moaning like old women when it doesn't!
His business, his money, his cars, his life.
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if everything you say is true, lazy people are a drain on all businesses. But irrespective the perception he's giving his employees isn't motivating them to work for him! So it could be that his failing business is partially down to his poor leadership and inability to motivate his staff.His business, his money, his cars, his life.
Like you say, without all the facts it's impossible to form a rounded opinion.
pmjg66 said:
Same old story,try working for the the biggest car dealership in the country !
Some staff had no pay rise for 8 years and many dealerships closed.
Although the chief executive could afford to pay himself around 1 £million pa. !
Yes but they get paid these huge sums as they have to make tough decisions t lay people off and freeze any pay rises Some staff had no pay rise for 8 years and many dealerships closed.
Although the chief executive could afford to pay himself around 1 £million pa. !
markda said:
In complete contrast, I work for a huge Global Corporate Company, where our EMEA President who is knowingly on almost seven figure salary turns work every day in a very modest circa 9-10 year old silver Mercedes CLK220. A very personable, professional and overall nice guy!
I'm reliably informed he owns some serious exotica with a prancing pony on the bonnet, but chooses not to rub his success in the noses of his employees.
Same here. The ethos is, by all means buy a Ferrari. Just don't bring it to work, as you will look like an arrogant so-and-so.I'm reliably informed he owns some serious exotica with a prancing pony on the bonnet, but chooses not to rub his success in the noses of his employees.
However, In my previous employ, for a US company, the UK CEO was very proud that his best paid people were salesmen and the parked their Astons/Ferrari/etc next to his company Merc, as it proved they were successful and great business development people...
Papa Hotel said:
02verco said:
Nope just respect !!!
Respect? You don't know the meaning of the word. Regurgitating second-hand cobblers, laughing because his wife left him, it's been said before but you're a nasty piece of work.I have reached the grand old age of 42 and have had many employment issues over all those years. I can therefore share with you the wisdom I have gained.
If you don't like the rules your boss creates or watching how he lives his life, become a boss yourself. If you don't want to or can't then I am afraid you just have to get used to it, the sooner you do the sooner you become a happier employee and a happier person.
If you don't like the rules your boss creates or watching how he lives his life, become a boss yourself. If you don't want to or can't then I am afraid you just have to get used to it, the sooner you do the sooner you become a happier employee and a happier person.
Papa Hotel said:
Respect? You don't know the meaning of the word. Regurgitating second-hand cobblers, laughing because his wife left him, it's been said before but you're a nasty piece of work.
Okay in the respect of his wife leaving him I have not told you the full story on this and what he has done, now if I were to tell you, (pm) only as this is something for his wife's sake would not be nice to be broadcast across the Internet. I do know the meaning of respect and I also share a lot of respect with my work force and they share the same back. I think the biggest thing here is that you only know half the story! The other half to be to would be going to far in to this man personal life and a boundary that I would not like to cross, I understand both points of view and in another sense agree with both and looking at what has been put can see the good and bad for what I have said! valais said:
markda said:
In complete contrast, I work for a huge Global Corporate Company, where our EMEA President who is knowingly on almost seven figure salary turns work every day in a very modest circa 9-10 year old silver Mercedes CLK220. A very personable, professional and overall nice guy!
I'm reliably informed he owns some serious exotica with a prancing pony on the bonnet, but chooses not to rub his success in the noses of his employees.
Same here. The ethos is, by all means buy a Ferrari. Just don't bring it to work, as you will look like an arrogant so-and-so.I'm reliably informed he owns some serious exotica with a prancing pony on the bonnet, but chooses not to rub his success in the noses of his employees.
However, In my previous employ, for a US company, the UK CEO was very proud that his best paid people were salesmen and the parked their Astons/Ferrari/etc next to his company Merc, as it proved they were successful and great business development people...
Kentish said:
Papa Hotel said:
02verco said:
Nope just respect !!!
Respect? You don't know the meaning of the word. Regurgitating second-hand cobblers, laughing because his wife left him, it's been said before but you're a nasty piece of work.blueg33 said:
When I was a Junior Land Buyer, my MD had a Lambo that he bought to work. Did that make me think, "What an arrogant tosser"?, nope, it motivated me to try and get to the same position.
Not many like you around mate!The problem with this country is that we hate success.
No one ever thinks, wow, he has worked hard or is lucky enough to have natural talent, perhaps I ought to work harder/ practice more etc.
The USA has a totally different mindset!
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