Dacia Duster. My streets full of them...
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Car-Matt said:
Hello again, I never mentioned compulsory or investment? Its easier to treat a new car as a tool too, especially when its potentially more reliable and cost effective than an older already worn tool.
You definitely ARE trolling. Its embarrassing for you.
I'm not embarrassed.You definitely ARE trolling. Its embarrassing for you.
I'm not sure why you are replying to posts this thread, though.
Butter Face said:
No market for them is what I was told, Kangoo (car) was stopped in the U.K. in 2011 because of such low demand.
We only offer one 7 seat car in the range and it sells in tiny numbers so having another one, even at a cheaper price, just isn’t necessary really. I think we would sell Lodgy tbh as a suspect lots of people who need the room go buy older cars instead but I can’t see them selling enough to make it worthwhile making RHD variants.
Kangoo car is gone and yet I see a fair few Citan cars, Kangoo van doesn't sell, yet I see loads of Citan vans, it's all very odd; I guess it's all about having the right badge! We only offer one 7 seat car in the range and it sells in tiny numbers so having another one, even at a cheaper price, just isn’t necessary really. I think we would sell Lodgy tbh as a suspect lots of people who need the room go buy older cars instead but I can’t see them selling enough to make it worthwhile making RHD variants.
Personally I think if the Dokker van and car were available in the UK at the usual Dacia price point, they would both do very well.
Same with the Lodgy, it would be the successor to the Zafira; cheap 7 seater that does the job without frills. I seem to recall reading/being told though, that the Lodgy factory isn't set up to produce RHD and it's too expensive/not worth it to set up to produce a RHD version.
LarsG said:
If people dumped PCP, bought cars that they could afford the manufacturers would be forced into giving value for money. The Europeans know this, the Brits don't.
So is the UK single handedly keeping the entire European car industry going?Or is it that every country except the UK has all of the gadgets and gizmos included as standard in the car which also costs less money than in the UK? It has to be both of the above else the industry wouldn’t spend bucket loads of cash of the R&D if only the UK is buying this stuff.
All of these ‘older sensible’ cars people are claiming the rest of Europe is flooded with must have been bought new at some point as they don’t leave the facotry second hand, nor did they come from the UK, as they all have the steering wheel on the wrong side.
Or maybe they roll of the assembly line get stored in a compound for 5-15 years before being sold as second hand, so people in this thread will believe all Europeans buy old sensible bangers they don’t care about.
A lot of over-generalisation in this thread.
Edited by r250 on Tuesday 27th November 17:08
valiant said:
amgmcqueen said:
SlimJim16v said:
Jaguar steve said:
Of course. That's what cars are for, and that's a world away from the sort of people who keep a selection of different sized paintbrushes to clean the dashboard vents and coin trays while nursing a semi in their spotless Tutonic Uberwagon every weekend.
That thread was comedy gold. Didn't he apply something like 37 coats of polish to the (brand new) car? Also threatened to reject it over a speck of dust in the paint?
A truely different world but whatever makes him happy I suppose.
Still mental though...
Any link?Condi said:
The French buy French because its French. Same as the Germans buy German because its German. The Italians buy Fiats too, because its Italian.
Hmmm, Renault and Hyundai are both quite popular in Germany (but oddly, not so many Kias) and you see plenty about. And on infrequent visits to Italy, there are lots of German cars. The French however are very loyal to PSA and Renault - and now Dacia. MC Bodge said:
Car-Matt said:
Hello again, I never mentioned compulsory or investment? Its easier to treat a new car as a tool too, especially when its potentially more reliable and cost effective than an older already worn tool.
You definitely ARE trolling. Its embarrassing for you.
I'm not embarrassed.You definitely ARE trolling. Its embarrassing for you.
I'm not sure why you are replying to posts this thread, though.
I'm replying on this thread because i'd like to buy one as stated several pages back.
r250 said:
So is the UK single handedly keeping the entire European car industry going?
Or is it that every country except the UK has all of the gadgets and gizmos included as standard in the car which also costs less money than in the UK? It has to be both of the above else the industry wouldn’t spend bucket loads of cash of the R&D if only the UK is buying this stuff.
All of these ‘older sensible’ cars people are claiming the rest of Europe is flooded with must have been bought new at some point as they don’t leave the facotry second hand, nor did they come from the UK, as they all have the steering wheel on the wrong side.
Or maybe they roll of the assembly line get stored in a compound for 5-15 years before being sold as second hand, so people in this thread will believe all Europeans buy old sensible bangers they don’t care about.
A lot of over-generalisation in this thread.
The observations are more about the tendency of people in some neighbouring countries to buy cars and then hang onto them for much longer than many peoole do here. Clean, pristine exteriors of cars appearing to be less of a concern than they are to many Brits. Or is it that every country except the UK has all of the gadgets and gizmos included as standard in the car which also costs less money than in the UK? It has to be both of the above else the industry wouldn’t spend bucket loads of cash of the R&D if only the UK is buying this stuff.
All of these ‘older sensible’ cars people are claiming the rest of Europe is flooded with must have been bought new at some point as they don’t leave the facotry second hand, nor did they come from the UK, as they all have the steering wheel on the wrong side.
Or maybe they roll of the assembly line get stored in a compound for 5-15 years before being sold as second hand, so people in this thread will believe all Europeans buy old sensible bangers they don’t care about.
A lot of over-generalisation in this thread.
Edited by r250 on Tuesday 27th November 17:08
I wonder how many French bodyshops are asked to re-paint lightly scratched bumpers or repair minor dents in wings?
Ps. Anecdotally, a French friend of mine was quite amused by the number of men who regularly washed their cars on Sundays when she moved to Britain.
Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 27th November 21:49
Isn't it nice to take pride in something though? We could all drive in £400 s
t-boxes with dents in all 4 quarters and paint peeling off the bonnet like you find in a lot of other (especially Southern) EU countries, but most people would rather pay the extra upkeep and have something which looks presentable. There is a big difference between being frugal and sensible with vehicles, and not giving a st about what you drive and what it looks like.
t-boxes with dents in all 4 quarters and paint peeling off the bonnet like you find in a lot of other (especially Southern) EU countries, but most people would rather pay the extra upkeep and have something which looks presentable. There is a big difference between being frugal and sensible with vehicles, and not giving a st about what you drive and what it looks like. Condi said:
Isn't it nice to take pride in something though? We could all drive in £400 st-boxes with dents in all 4 quarters and paint peeling off the bonnet like you find in a lot of other (especially Southern) EU countries, but most people would rather pay the extra upkeep and have something which looks presentable. There is a big difference between being frugal and sensible with vehicles, and not giving a st about what you drive and what it looks like.
It might be nice for you but the difficulty here is nobody else gives a toss.t-boxes with dents in all 4 quarters and paint peeling off the bonnet like you find in a lot of other (especially Southern) EU countries, but most people would rather pay the extra upkeep and have something which looks presentable. There is a big difference between being frugal and sensible with vehicles, and not giving a st about what you drive and what it looks like. If you're driven to keep your car in pristine condition by pride you're also leaving yourself wide open to a world of pain when some Twunt scratches it or a whole life of Sunday mornings lost keeping it spotlessly clean and sleepless nights agonising over which tyres to buy or where to park it.
Been there - done that. Not anymore.
I've discovered a weird paradox in that when you abandon pride and instead view your cars as your servants not your masters it's not only incredibly liberating but you also enjoy using them a whole lot more.
It's not what your car looks like to anybody else, it's what your car does for you that matters.
Jaguar steve said:
It might be nice for you but the difficulty here is nobody else gives a toss.
If you're driven to keep your car in pristine condition by pride you're also leaving yourself wide open to a world of pain when some Twunt scratches it or a whole life of Sunday mornings lost keeping it spotlessly clean and sleepless nights agonising over which tyres to buy or where to park it.
Been there - done that. Not anymore.
I've discovered a weird paradox in that when you abandon pride and instead view your cars as your servants not your masters it's not only incredibly liberating but you also enjoy using them a whole lot more.
It's not what your car looks like to anybody else, it's what your car does for you that matters.
Well put. If you're driven to keep your car in pristine condition by pride you're also leaving yourself wide open to a world of pain when some Twunt scratches it or a whole life of Sunday mornings lost keeping it spotlessly clean and sleepless nights agonising over which tyres to buy or where to park it.
Been there - done that. Not anymore.
I've discovered a weird paradox in that when you abandon pride and instead view your cars as your servants not your masters it's not only incredibly liberating but you also enjoy using them a whole lot more.
It's not what your car looks like to anybody else, it's what your car does for you that matters.
Use them. Drive them. Don't worry about them and disconnect status from them.
I would suggest fitting decent tyres and brake parts. I'd also suggest keeping the interior and the windows clean.
cobra kid said:
MC Bodge said:
Well put. Drive them and go to places in them.
I do like to use decent tyres brake parts and oil though. And keep the windows and lights clean.
That's just commonsense, good quality maintainence. It's wrong if you DON'T do that!I do like to use decent tyres brake parts and oil though. And keep the windows and lights clean.
MC Bodge said:
cobra kid said:
MC Bodge said:
Well put. Drive them and go to places in them.
I do like to use decent tyres brake parts and oil though. And keep the windows and lights clean.
That's just commonsense, good quality maintainence. It's wrong if you DON'T do that!I do like to use decent tyres brake parts and oil though. And keep the windows and lights clean.
Condi said:
Isn't it nice to take pride in something though? We could all drive in £400 st-boxes with dents in all 4 quarters and paint peeling off the bonnet like you find in a lot of other (especially Southern) EU countries, but most people would rather pay the extra upkeep and have something which looks presentable. There is a big difference between being frugal and sensible with vehicles, and not giving a st about what you drive and what it looks like.
True, but a fortnight in France a couple of years back - Clermond down to Biarritz and then to Marseilles - revealed nothing like as many 'prestige' brands as here in the UK. Predominantly French cars (lots of C4 Cacti), the odd VW, loads of new Dacias. They don't appear to give a st-boxes with dents in all 4 quarters and paint peeling off the bonnet like you find in a lot of other (especially Southern) EU countries, but most people would rather pay the extra upkeep and have something which looks presentable. There is a big difference between being frugal and sensible with vehicles, and not giving a st about what you drive and what it looks like. t about 'prestige'* but there aren't that many rough bangers about. French house prices suggest they see a house as a home and not an investment which I read somewhere that they spend far, far more than we do on eating out. It seems they have their priorities right, or certainly different to ours!- whatever that is
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
valiant said:
amgmcqueen said:
SlimJim16v said:
Jaguar steve said:
Of course. That's what cars are for, and that's a world away from the sort of people who keep a selection of different sized paintbrushes to clean the dashboard vents and coin trays while nursing a semi in their spotless Tutonic Uberwagon every weekend.
That thread was comedy gold. Didn't he apply something like 37 coats of polish to the (brand new) car? Also threatened to reject it over a speck of dust in the paint?
A truely different world but whatever makes him happy I suppose.
Still mental though...
Any link?Dacia's do cheap no frills family motoring. I'm thinking of getting a Logan MCV estate in the new year.
I only do 3k a year but need a nice big boot. Not bothered about leather seats or luxury touches. Just a big car that's cheap to buy and cheap to run. The 0.9L mid spec Logan looks just the job for 4.5k ish. 30 quid road tax, 35 quid residents parking permit (instead of £135 which most people have to pay). Haven't test driven yet tho so if it literally drives like a bag of old bones then that might put me off.
I only do 3k a year but need a nice big boot. Not bothered about leather seats or luxury touches. Just a big car that's cheap to buy and cheap to run. The 0.9L mid spec Logan looks just the job for 4.5k ish. 30 quid road tax, 35 quid residents parking permit (instead of £135 which most people have to pay). Haven't test driven yet tho so if it literally drives like a bag of old bones then that might put me off.
Car-Matt said:
Just taken a call from my local Renault dealer and they told me to expect a 4wd Auto announced the back end of 2019
Never say never but I haven’t heard anything myself (I am off today though) and as a 4WD Auto would be around £20k in top spec it really wouldn’t be a big seller IMO, I also can’t thinj which car they would rob the transmission from, AFAIK there hasn’t been an auto 4WD with the 1.5 diesel or the 1.3 TCE that the Duster uses. Unless they change the the 1.6 which comes with the CVT box (I think) or the 2.0 diesel that the Koleos/Xtrail uses. Just can’t see it!Butter Face said:
Car-Matt said:
Just taken a call from my local Renault dealer and they told me to expect a 4wd Auto announced the back end of 2019
Never say never but I haven’t heard anything myself (I am off today though) and as a 4WD Auto would be around £20k in top spec it really wouldn’t be a big seller IMO, I also can’t thinj which car they would rob the transmission from, AFAIK there hasn’t been an auto 4WD with the 1.5 diesel or the 1.3 TCE that the Duster uses. Unless they change the the 1.6 which comes with the CVT box (I think) or the 2.0 diesel that the Koleos/Xtrail uses. Just can’t see it!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff