RE: Paris 2012: F-Type, full details

[R300will]

The front lights are a bit too Mercedes but the rest looks gorgeous.

[Synbios]

Does anybody know what kind of company a 50-75 time of 2.5 secs puts the car in?

[Carl_Docklands]

Synbios said:

Does anybody know what kind of company a 50-75 time of 2.5 secs puts the car in?

I just did a table and stuck it in the Porsche forum.

All prices include 20% worth of options, did Jag miss a trick with the pricing or what....?

Jag F-Type

Base: 340hp-339 lb/ft 5.1 secs 50-75mph 3.3 secs £60,000.00
S: 380hp-339 lb/ft 4.8 secs 50-75mph 3.1 secs £78,000.00
RS: 495hp-461 lb/ft 4.2 secs 50-75mph 2.5 secs £102,000.00

Boxster

Base: 265hp-207 lb/ft 5.5 secs 50-75mph 3.7 secs £45,000.00
S: 315hp-266 lb/ft 4.8 secs 50-75mph 3.1 secs £54,429.00

911 Cab

Base: 350hp-288 lb/ft 4.6 secs 50-75mph 2.9 secs £95,936.00
S: 400hp-325 lb/ft 4.3 secs 50-75mph 2.5 secs £100,500.00
S X51:430hp-325 lb/ft 4.2 secs 50-75mph 2.4(?) secs £107,500.00

Mercedes SLS Roadster

Base: 563hp-480 lb/ft 3.6 secs 50-75mph 2.4 secs £195,000.00

Aston Martin Roadster

Base: 420hp-346 lb/ft 4.9 secs 50-75mph ? £100,000.00
S: 430hp-361 lb/ft 4.7 secs 50-75mph ? £120,000.00
v12: 510hp-420 lb/ft 4.5 secs 50-75mph ? £135,000.00

Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 27th September 19:53

[billzeebub]

Sensational looking car. Will anyone buy a V8 Vantage once this comes along?!

[oxfordbiker]

I almost wish they didn't release concept versions prior to the real models = I am sure if I just saw this design fir the first time I would be blown away, but after poring over the CX16 for months, it takes the wind away a little. However, I keep clicking on articles linking to it so its definitely growing on me. Love the rear end (lights designed to resemble Jaguar pupils?)...

[Synbios]

Carl_Docklands said:

I just did a table and stuck it in the Porsche forum.

All prices include 20% worth of options, did Jag miss a trick with the pricing or what....?

Jag F-Type

Base: 340hp-339 lb/ft 5.1 secs 50-75mph 3.3 secs £60,000.00
S: 380hp-339 lb/ft 4.8 secs 50-75mph 3.1 secs £78,000.00
RS: 495hp-461 lb/ft 4.2 secs 50-75mph 2.5 secs £102,000.00

Boxster

Base: 265hp-207 lb/ft 5.5 secs 50-75mph 3.7 secs £45,000.00
S: 315hp-266 lb/ft 4.8 secs 50-75mph 3.1 secs £54,429.00

911 Cab

Base: 350hp-288 lb/ft 4.6 secs 50-75mph 2.9 secs £95,936.00
S: 400hp-325 lb/ft 4.3 secs 50-75mph 2.5 secs £100,500.00

Mercedes SLS Roadster

Base: 563hp-480 lb/ft 3.6 secs 50-75mph 2.4 secs £180,000.00

Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 27th September 19:34

Interesting, thanks.

[sjn2004]

B10 said:

Carnnoisseur said:

fostrike said:

Nice car indeed, back seems inspired by Pininfarina's 2uettottanta

Spot on, thought I recongised the similarities from an Alfa (not a bad thing). The coupe looks just as stunning also!

I disagree. The rear lights of the F pay homage to the series 1 E type.

My first thoughts were Alfa rear end and Ferrari California/Maserati GT mix front end.

[whoami]

Looks great (or at least the coupe does) but it's too expensive.

After the initial fuss has died down, we'll see large discounts to shift them.

[Carl_Docklands]

theaxe said:

Not sure if this has been posted already but here's a link to a configurator

I have just specced one and the whole thing feels like you are on the Porsche configurator, it is excellent.

They even do nice seats with full contrast stitching, carbon fibre external parts etc. - very impressive!

Not too impressed with the selection of exterior colours though, how many shades of grey and silver do you need? Where are the blues, yellows and the viper green?

Specced a V8 up to £90k ish so, options are far cheaper than Porsche equivalents. The Meridian sound system got alot of plaudits on the other Jags and it is here also.

I am now excited about this car, lets see what time she does around Hockenheim.....

Edited by Carl_Docklands on Thursday 27th September 20:25

[Martin 480 Turbo]

whoami said:

Looks great (or at least the coupe does) but it's too expensive.

After the initial fuss has died down, we'll see large discounts to shift them.

Or they have alredy factored in an average discount of 25 percent in the inflated prices. As the european markets fall flat the average discounts have risen to historic highs. They prepared for the situation and keep dealers happy...

[Martin 480 Turbo]

So much WANT, (for the weed that you PH guys must have in the cafeteria).

Edited by Martin 480 Turbo on Friday 14th June 11:59

[anonymous-user]

£58.5K for a 340hp Jag in it's base form, call it £65k with reasonable options?

Nah.

ETA - just noticed the header ~ '...value' - is the PH editorial team a tad pissed?

[David87]

Quite excellent. I will be buying one of these.

[anonymous-user]

Carl_Docklands said:

I just did a table and stuck it in the Porsche forum.

All prices include 20% worth of options, did Jag miss a trick with the pricing or what....?

Miss a trick?

That looks quite favourable to the F-Type if you ask me. Okay, not so when compared to the Boxster, but people don't just buy based on speed. In fact, for a lot of people today it is all about the looks and image.

[edar]

Very, very pretty car. Ian Callum is a genius car designer.

[DJRC]

nbirch said:

I'll be going against the grain by saying I find this an utterly uninspiring effort from Jag. Part Maserati, part Nissan, part Spyker... If this is a natural successor of the E-type its a FAIL.... it's not substantially different from anything else out in the market techinically, atheistically its uninspiring and its certainly not inexpensive for what it is. If it was 40K new, then it would cause a few raised eyebrows in Germany, Japan, and Italy, but as it stands big opportunity missed.

You have obviously been discussing it with the above ppl this week then? Oh wait, sorry, this is the internet, of course you havent.

Whereas I was in Firenze and Pisa yesterday and in southern Germany today. Being British and amongst engineers the conversation on both days turned to the release of the "new E-Type". The Italians had a young Micra driving woman, late 20s and the Germans a middle aged lady with a new BMW 3 series. The F-Type was met with complete approval by all members of both groups I was with, inc 2 very different ladies.

It would seem that you are in fact incorrect given the primary evidence available.

[DJRC]

lewisf182 said:

It does look absolutely stunning! but I just cant help feeling let down in the pricing.
Really thought this would be a porsche rival, but with the BHP and price it'd be hard to walk past the new boxster (which itself is gorgeous).
As said in a few years should make a second hand bargain and hopefully i'll be in a position by then to buy one

Which sodding Boxster is packing 380 ponies, let alone 5 just shy of 500 ????????????

This thing is aimed at the 911, not the Boxster/Cayman.

[Strider]

Saw this at the show today. Rear view is hugely impressive. But - the prices! The lower spec cars look basic especially inside but are the price of a full spec Boxter. Porsche cunningly displayed one specced up to the Jag's entry price. Wow is it gorgeous.

[DJRC]

kambites said:

Olivera said:

The 991 Cabrio kerb-weight ranges from 1525kg (Carrera manual) right up to 1610kg (Carrera 4S PDK). The F-type weighing roughly the same (despite having to carry a supercharger and ancillaries such as intercoolers) is right where it needs to be.

And two less seats.

This should have been Boxster weight in V6 form, IMO. Jaguar may claim this is a sports car, but if it drives like one I'll be astonished (and no I don't consider the 911 a sports car - it's a GT and has been for years).

To me, this looks like nothing more than a slightly re-positioned replacement for the XK. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it's not really what I was expecting from all the hype.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 27th September 09:32

? But Jag pretty much said it was going to be exactly that, with the XK moving upwards, i.e. going SL hunting.
Oh, you mean you were listening to motoring journalists.


The 911 has always been a sports GT car. It was conceived as one.

[RichB]

had ham said:

£58.5K for a 340hp Jag in it's base form, call it £65k with reasonable options? Nah.

I just spec'd up an entry level F-Type and it came out at £70k. That's a lot of dosh for a base level car.