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Lucas North said:
I'll be practicing what I preach and evacuating this thread, I shall leave you bikers desperately trying to justify why your 2 wheels are better than 4, and making yourselves look stupid. 
Says the man with "We need to go to....Ludicrous speed!" in his profile.Spend some of your spare time sorting yourself out and don't worry about what I do in my spare time.
I have all bases covered.
ZeeTacoe said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
hairykrishna said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
The top Gear test track, a road BMW S1000RR was faster than a F1 car.
The Renault F1 car did it in 59 dead in the damp. What was the BMWs time? Edit - I remember that episode now. Wasn't the bike slower than the V8 Atom?
Edited by hairykrishna on Wednesday 23 March 14:17
Yes the 11k road bike was slower than a 500k Atom.
I was busy at work in and out of my office not concentrating all that well when replying. I should have said it was a £150k Atom 500 not a 500k Atom.
So... You got me bang to rights there.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Says the man with "We need to go to....Ludicrous speed!" in his profile.
Spend some of your spare time sorting yourself out and don't worry about what I do in my spare time.
I have all bases covered.
He sounds like a straight line hero, first corner and he'd have a heart attack. Maybe drag racing is his thing?Spend some of your spare time sorting yourself out and don't worry about what I do in my spare time.
I have all bases covered.
RobM77 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
And how exactly did you formulate these calculations?
This was on another thread last year. I explained this earlier in the thread I think. I timed the TT bike lap record from a You Tube video between two points, and then an old F1 car between the same two points, again from a YT vid. Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Presumably, in the real world everyone agrees that bikes are the only way?
On a bike there are no queues, you get to the front of the traffic lights every time, other drivers move over to aid your progress, other drivers are much more courteous to you, you don't get bored, they're a great stress reliever, they're fast and fun.
And best of all, I save *at least* 30 minutes per day commuting by bike (which I do all year round in most weathers) That's 2.5 hours per week or 10 hours per month or several days per year. I also save £20 a week in petrol.
You'd have to be a bit mental to believe cars a faster or better in the real world after I've just written all that. I pass 100's of cars per day...they sit there with boredom written all over their faces, and I wonder - why?
Get a bike license - discover the better (only IMO) way.
Faster through traffic, of course. Faster outright than >99% of road cars too. 'Better' is subjective - depends on what you need/want it to do. On a bike there are no queues, you get to the front of the traffic lights every time, other drivers move over to aid your progress, other drivers are much more courteous to you, you don't get bored, they're a great stress reliever, they're fast and fun.
And best of all, I save *at least* 30 minutes per day commuting by bike (which I do all year round in most weathers) That's 2.5 hours per week or 10 hours per month or several days per year. I also save £20 a week in petrol.
You'd have to be a bit mental to believe cars a faster or better in the real world after I've just written all that. I pass 100's of cars per day...they sit there with boredom written all over their faces, and I wonder - why?
Get a bike license - discover the better (only IMO) way.
Faster around a track than various racing cars? No. Faster around the TT course? I strongly suspect not.
VB said:
RobM77 said:
otolith]1 Loon said:
(Atoms) have all the impracticalities of a bike with none of the advantages.
They don't require leathers, you can't fall off them, at least 31 million more people in the UK are licensed to drive one?
And an Atom is easier to drift They don't require leathers, you can't fall off them, at least 31 million more people in the UK are licensed to drive one?
I don't mean fully sideways with smoke coming off the tyres, I mean drifting in the true sense of the word - dancing on the limit with understeer and oversteer in equal measure - really pushing it. That's what I do on track days anyway; if I never went anywhere near the limit I wouldn't see the point of driving on a track! There are very few people who can do that on a bike, especially in typical British weather. Would the average road biker really be happy on opposite lock at 90mph in the wet? If for some odd reason though you never go anywhere near the limit, sure, a bike is a better purchase. For those of us who enjoy flat out slip angle fun though, I'd say the car is probably the better machine for the job. Horses for courses really.I would say most bike racers would be happy 'backing it in' to a corner.
You're very clever in the way you go about wording your replies to bolster your argument.
Drifting a car is a piece of piss, there isn't much skill in that.
R1 Loon said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Says the man with "We need to go to....Ludicrous speed!" in his profile.
Spend some of your spare time sorting yourself out and don't worry about what I do in my spare time.
I have all bases covered.
He sounds like a straight line hero, first corner and he'd have a heart attack. Maybe drag racing is his thing?Spend some of your spare time sorting yourself out and don't worry about what I do in my spare time.
I have all bases covered.
tter.I'd wager that all his experiences are through forums or car Magazines.
Bikes are cheap speed for the young or the skint or for those that know no different , get a bit of money or a bit of class and you'd get a car and then a bike is only ever a toy
As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
liner33 said:
Bikes are cheap speed for the young or the skint or for those that know no different , get a bit of money or a bit of class and you'd get a car and then a bike is only ever a toy
As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
Or they're more toys to add to an already long list of current and previous cars.As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
liner33 said:
Bikes are cheap speed for the young or the skint or for those that know no different , get a bit of money or a bit of class and you'd get a car and then a bike is only ever a toy
As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
Some people don't have all their toys in their profile.As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
Some people actully prefer bikes to cars for thrills.
liner33 said:
Bikes are cheap speed for the young or the skint or for those that know no different , get a bit of money or a bit of class and you'd get a car and then a bike is only ever a toy
As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
I just checked your profile. A 1998 Evo. As for being quicker in the real world , I've had 18yrs olds in Saxo's overtake me because i chose not to take the risks that they would, it means nothing
Can't you afford a new one?
srob said:
Life Saab Itch said:
srob said:
Bikes can 'straightline' a lot of sections that the cars wouldn't be able to as they're narrow enough to allow them to clip from apex to apex through a series of S bends. This would enable them to carry far more speed than a car that has to drive around these 'corners'.
Cars with downforce won't have to roll off the throttle as they negotiate these bends.
Non-argument.
You edit out the part of my post where I specifically said that I don't think you could run a car with much aero on the Island.
Have a look at the hillclimb cars that run downforce, then have a look at some of the farm tracks that they run on.
My point stands.
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