Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 6]
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slippery said:
Well if he has, we want pics and a report! 
The model that seems to work for a lot of people is to split the fixed overheads, but actually own your stock individually. That way, you get a lot of the benefits of a partnership, but with less chance of a big disagreement over bad purchasing/part exchange decisions.
Good tip!The model that seems to work for a lot of people is to split the fixed overheads, but actually own your stock individually. That way, you get a lot of the benefits of a partnership, but with less chance of a big disagreement over bad purchasing/part exchange decisions.
He has more money than me so may be much prone to the odd rush-of-blood-to-the-head type of purchase/decision than me.
derin100 said:
slippery said:
Well if he has, we want pics and a report!
The model that seems to work for a lot of people is to split the fixed overheads, but actually own your stock individually. That way, you get a lot of the benefits of a partnership, but with less chance of a big disagreement over bad purchasing/part exchange decisions.
Good tip!The model that seems to work for a lot of people is to split the fixed overheads, but actually own your stock individually. That way, you get a lot of the benefits of a partnership, but with less chance of a big disagreement over bad purchasing/part exchange decisions.
He has more money than me so may be much prone to the odd rush-of-blood-to-the-head type of purchase/decision than me.
derin100 said:
He does know about cars too. He used to make a little money when younger buying insurance write-off damaged cars at auctions, repairing them and selling them. Not vast sums but a little. (However, we've agreed even though they might seem tempting to buy there's no mileage or future in it for us even touching anything that's got a CAT title against it. Even if they're good cars at the end of a good repair they're always just such an uphill battle to sell.)
Sorry to wander off topic, but I thought there was a service to be able to remove write-off cats after an inspection?Regardless, he sounds like a good chap to go into business with - he's obviously got the nose to make a success if it's possible, with experience from the ground up.
So long as the customers, suppliers and taxman know that when they're dealing with Derin they're not dealing with his friend and vise-versa, then yes, it is fine. But one premises, one sign, one showroom, one office, one trading name, one telephone number, one website and there's a real risk you're knowingly holding yourself out as partners.
I only ever see the problems and the risks: which explains my poverty.
I only ever see the problems and the risks: which explains my poverty.
bmthnick1981 said:
andy43 said:
Under budget but may possibly find some appreciation here 
£995 525
I suspect interested parties will need to be quick.
Surprisingly that didn't sell last time it was listed so has been re-listed, seemed to attract a few offers but no one prepared to pay the £995. £995 525
I suspect interested parties will need to be quick.
This is the dealer that got arsey with me when I wouldn't buy his Alfa 156 that had had the airbag warning light covered with black pen to hide it being lit up all the time. He said I wanted a Bentley for £800. I said he shouldn't sell cheap cars and describe them as great condition when they weren't. He said my E34 I arrived in was a bag of s
t. Now he is selling one his adverts are just full of his usual fluff and bks to try and distract the potential victim from checking the car out properly. Buyer beware.Krikkit said:
Sorry to wander off topic, but I thought there was a service to be able to remove write-off cats after an inspection?
Regardless, he sounds like a good chap to go into business with - he's obviously got the nose to make a success if it's possible, with experience from the ground up.
No Krikkit once a 'Cat' has been applied that's it. You have to have a mandatory an inspection on a Cat C (a VIC inspection) to get an new V5. But that's really just a vehicle identity check to confirm the veracity of the identity of the vehicle one is presenting as.Regardless, he sounds like a good chap to go into business with - he's obviously got the nose to make a success if it's possible, with experience from the ground up.
r129sl said:
So long as the customers, suppliers and taxman know that when they're dealing with Derin they're not dealing with his friend and vise-versa, then yes, it is fine. But one premises, one sign, one showroom, one office, one trading name, one telephone number, one website and there's a real risk you're knowingly holding yourself out as partners.
I only ever see the problems and the risks: which explains my poverty.
No...it's good advice! You see, all stuff I'd never even considered. Thank you!I only ever see the problems and the risks: which explains my poverty.
Emeye said:
bmthnick1981 said:
andy43 said:
Under budget but may possibly find some appreciation here
£995 525
I suspect interested parties will need to be quick.
Surprisingly that didn't sell last time it was listed so has been re-listed, seemed to attract a few offers but no one prepared to pay the £995. £995 525
I suspect interested parties will need to be quick.
This is the dealer that got arsey with me when I wouldn't buy his Alfa 156 that had had the airbag warning light covered with black pen to hide it being lit up all the time. He said I wanted a Bentley for £800. I said he shouldn't sell cheap cars and describe them as great condition when they weren't. He said my E34 I arrived in was a bag of s
t. Now he is selling one his adverts are just full of his usual fluff and bks to try and distract the potential victim from checking the car out properly. Buyer beware.
r129sl said:
Emeye said:
bmthnick1981 said:
andy43 said:
Under budget but may possibly find some appreciation here
£995 525
I suspect interested parties will need to be quick.
Surprisingly that didn't sell last time it was listed so has been re-listed, seemed to attract a few offers but no one prepared to pay the £995. £995 525
I suspect interested parties will need to be quick.
This is the dealer that got arsey with me when I wouldn't buy his Alfa 156 that had had the airbag warning light covered with black pen to hide it being lit up all the time. He said I wanted a Bentley for £800. I said he shouldn't sell cheap cars and describe them as great condition when they weren't. He said my E34 I arrived in was a bag of s
t. Now he is selling one his adverts are just full of his usual fluff and bks to try and distract the potential victim from checking the car out properly. Buyer beware.Now where did I leave that black permanent marker pen? "Kids....Who's nicked my marker pen?!!"
derin100 said:
Krikkit said:
Sorry to wander off topic, but I thought there was a service to be able to remove write-off cats after an inspection?
Regardless, he sounds like a good chap to go into business with - he's obviously got the nose to make a success if it's possible, with experience from the ground up.
No Krikkit once a 'Cat' has been applied that's it. You have to have a mandatory an inspection on a Cat C (a VIC inspection) to get an new V5. But that's really just a vehicle identity check to confirm the veracity of the identity of the vehicle one is presenting as.Regardless, he sounds like a good chap to go into business with - he's obviously got the nose to make a success if it's possible, with experience from the ground up.
AudiWurst said:
W210 E55 AMG for £3200.
Close-up pictures of the front wings look OK, but I guess it could still be rusty underneath...
http://mercseller.com/index.php?pg=view&id=471
What's the threadists' opinion on these? Would a cheapish E55 or, more realistically, E430 make an interesting, short-term ownership proposition - especially for one who more usually enjoys W124s and W201s?Close-up pictures of the front wings look OK, but I guess it could still be rusty underneath...
http://mercseller.com/index.php?pg=view&id=471
Edited by mccrackenj on Thursday 31st October 23:15
mccrackenj said:
What's the threadists' opinion on these? Would a cheapish E55 or, more realistically, E430 make an interesting short-term, ownership proposition - especially for one who more usually enjoys W124s and W201s?
I like the idea but wouldn't travel more than about 10 miles to see one on the assumption that they are all rusty (I've not seen one for many years that wasn't).In many ways the anthisis of w124ness
0a said:
mccrackenj said:
What's the threadists' opinion on these? Would a cheapish E55 or, more realistically, E430 make an interesting short-term, ownership proposition - especially for one who more usually enjoys W124s and W201s?
I like the idea but wouldn't travel more than about 10 miles to see one on the assumption that they are all rusty (I've not seen one for many years that wasn't).In many ways the anthisis of w124ness
0a said:
mccrackenj said:
What's the threadists' opinion on these? Would a cheapish E55 or, more realistically, E430 make an interesting short-term, ownership proposition - especially for one who more usually enjoys W124s and W201s?
I like the idea but wouldn't travel more than about 10 miles to see one on the assumption that they are all rusty (I've not seen one for many years that wasn't).In many ways the anthisis of w124ness
I've only ever owned one AMG and it was a relatively low mileage, fastidiously maintained car and covered by a full, comprehensive MB Warranty. Even then, I lived in slight fear that something might happen that would be AMG-specific and in the fine-print wouldn't be covered by the warranty.
The Quotient Rating for potentially calamitous BORK on a 150K mile 5.5L AMG seems very high to me.
If viewed from the stance of: "Well, it's £3K and if it really does screw-up on me, I'll have had my fun and just throw the thing away" then maybe it'll be ok?
The W210 is wonderfully underrated. Long may it remain so and long may they remain cheap. The W124 is a sacred cow at the money they go for now. Great though they are - they rust as well - horribly if we're honest, and they ain't that reliable. Plus, they cost a small fortune to keep in decent condition. Actually, maybe just a fortune. I should know - I've had a fair few. The W210 is where it's at these days. Misunderstood and very uncool. Therefore very cool indeed.
Yes, the W210 has suffered a serious image crisis over the past few years. Looking every part the ste minicab in cloth trim (as the W124 did before it), they've been through the hands of dodgy owners and many have fallen into perilous disrepair. There must be a few good ones out there though, and the E55 must be a bargain because it's a thirsty and unloved model. It is to the barge world what the IS200 was to the small saloon market a decade ago. That said, every other issue of Mercedes Enthusiast (which I read as hand-me-downs from my Mercedes-mad father) features a W124. There was a good issue not so long ago with a box fresh silver W124 which they were heaping all kinds of praise on, something which will go further to keeping the values high.
On my own barge inspection today, I did spy this. This sort of thing appeals massively. Great colour, love the wheels, well kept plastic trim. Lancashire not a million miles away. Were I in the market (and I will be, one day), I'd probably have a look at something like this.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C401076
te minicab in cloth trim (as the W124 did before it), they've been through the hands of dodgy owners and many have fallen into perilous disrepair. There must be a few good ones out there though, and the E55 must be a bargain because it's a thirsty and unloved model. It is to the barge world what the IS200 was to the small saloon market a decade ago. That said, every other issue of Mercedes Enthusiast (which I read as hand-me-downs from my Mercedes-mad father) features a W124. There was a good issue not so long ago with a box fresh silver W124 which they were heaping all kinds of praise on, something which will go further to keeping the values high. On my own barge inspection today, I did spy this. This sort of thing appeals massively. Great colour, love the wheels, well kept plastic trim. Lancashire not a million miles away. Were I in the market (and I will be, one day), I'd probably have a look at something like this.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C401076
Baryonyx said:
Yes, the W210 has suffered a serious image crisis over the past few years. Looking every part the ste minicab in cloth trim (as the W124 did before it), they've been through the hands of dodgy owners and many have fallen into perilous disrepair. There must be a few good ones out there though, and the E55 must be a bargain because it's a thirsty and unloved model. It is to the barge world what the IS200 was to the small saloon market a decade ago. That said, every other issue of Mercedes Enthusiast (which I read as hand-me-downs from my Mercedes-mad father) features a W124. There was a good issue not so long ago with a box fresh silver W124 which they were heaping all kinds of praise on, something which will go further to keeping the values high.
On my own barge inspection today, I did spy this. This sort of thing appeals massively. Great colour, love the wheels, well kept plastic trim. Lancashire not a million miles away. Were I in the market (and I will be, one day), I'd probably have a look at something like this.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C401076
That looks very, very good indeed. An E38 728i never stays out of my mind for long. In good condition they seem to me to be timeless and far less likely to bit than a w140 behemoth. te minicab in cloth trim (as the W124 did before it), they've been through the hands of dodgy owners and many have fallen into perilous disrepair. There must be a few good ones out there though, and the E55 must be a bargain because it's a thirsty and unloved model. It is to the barge world what the IS200 was to the small saloon market a decade ago. That said, every other issue of Mercedes Enthusiast (which I read as hand-me-downs from my Mercedes-mad father) features a W124. There was a good issue not so long ago with a box fresh silver W124 which they were heaping all kinds of praise on, something which will go further to keeping the values high. On my own barge inspection today, I did spy this. This sort of thing appeals massively. Great colour, love the wheels, well kept plastic trim. Lancashire not a million miles away. Were I in the market (and I will be, one day), I'd probably have a look at something like this.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C401076
Glad to see some positive W210 comments. I know many will disagree with me but a sorted W210 is a better drive than a W124. Particularly in Elegance spec it combines old school Merc ride with a significantly more modern feel than the W124.
They rust, yes. Sometimes very badly but let's face it many a W124 went to the big car park in the sky with holes in various places it shouldn't have had holes.
A lot of the nicer W124's out there are rated as being long lived in much the way as many a broom which has had 4 new heads and 6 new handles.
They rust, yes. Sometimes very badly but let's face it many a W124 went to the big car park in the sky with holes in various places it shouldn't have had holes.
A lot of the nicer W124's out there are rated as being long lived in much the way as many a broom which has had 4 new heads and 6 new handles.
Given the recorded history, this seemed like a heck of a lot of car for the money
http://www.barons-auctions.com/details.php?ID=6350
Here's the after dale report:-
By far the best buy of the day (always assuming you have your own forecourt, of course) was a 1998 Mercedes-Benz S320L ‘Business Edition’, which being translated means fully loaded. Pre-sale estimated to cost a buyer £6,500-£7,500, a tiny fraction of the original retail price, the Teutonic behemoth, which certainly appeared still to be in as new condition outside and in, was very well landed, I would suggest, for a modest £2,640!
http://www.barons-auctions.com/details.php?ID=6350
Here's the after dale report:-
By far the best buy of the day (always assuming you have your own forecourt, of course) was a 1998 Mercedes-Benz S320L ‘Business Edition’, which being translated means fully loaded. Pre-sale estimated to cost a buyer £6,500-£7,500, a tiny fraction of the original retail price, the Teutonic behemoth, which certainly appeared still to be in as new condition outside and in, was very well landed, I would suggest, for a modest £2,640!
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