RE: Peugeot 607 | Shed of the Week

[bolidemichael]

That looks awesome, thanks

bolidemichael - La Haine, Water Boy

[Ikenna351]

Fresh Prince said:

Re: Painter38's question above, it's not quite the same but back in '99 I saw a pre-facelift 205 GTi 1.6 in Ghana, which isn't that far away. It was following a (yellow!) Fiat Coupe NA 16v.

I have Peugeot 205 electrical and mechanical workshop manual (Haynes) which includes both 1.6 GTI & 1.9 GTI (CTI), which I never get to use since 205 are hard to see or find over here in Nigeria. I think the manual can serve 309 & 405 users too.

If anyone is interested in the manual, you can contact me via WhatsApp to forward it (soft copy/pdf) to you. [phone].

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

Edited by Ikenna351 on Wednesday 22 April 09:26

Edited by Ikenna351 on Wednesday 22 April 10:30

[J4CKO]

Ikenna351 - Lion King - Monk,

This guy may be your kind of thing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UfS2XwBdg

British Youtuber who does in depth reviews of modern classics, usually he goes for the more mundane stuff rather than the usual fancy stuff, 505 in this case if you havent already seen it.

I really liked the 309 I had bought by my dad very cheaply and fixed up, my brother had one as well, great little cars, mine was a "Look" special edition.

[gigglebug]

J4CKO said:

Ikenna351 - Lion King - Monk,

This guy may be your kind of thing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UfS2XwBdg

British Youtuber who does in depth reviews of modern classics, usually he goes for the more mundane stuff rather than the usual fancy stuff, 505 in this case if you havent already seen it.

I really liked the 309 I had bought by my dad very cheaply and fixed up, my brother had one as well, great little cars, mine was a "Look" special edition.

Never seen him before, quite liked the video though so I’ll watch some more.

The first car I had access to after I passed my test was my dad’s 405 diesel. It was a non turbo version so I’m surprised it even moved once it was overfilled with teenagers. I thought it was pretty useless at the time but looking back it probably taught me a lot more about maintaining speed, using the gears and brakes as effectively as possible, and planning well ahead than if I’d have gone straight into something with more guts that made a lot of the driving easy for you.

I properly enjoyed the 309 I had later in life too. It was only bought as a cheap runaround car but it was fun to drive and never missed a beat. I made more than I paid for it when I traded it in as well which was a bonus. The only problem I ever experienced was when I jumped out at a petrol station to pop some air in the tyres, shut the door behind me and the central locking activated locking me out and the keys inside. Luckily the garage had cover to get stranded vehicles removed safely from the forecourt so a recovery bloke came out. It was shockingly easy for him to ‘break in’ and retrieve the keys!!

[Ikenna351]

gigglebug said:

Never seen him before, quite liked the video though so I’ll watch some more.

The first car I had access to after I passed my test was my dad’s 405 diesel. It was a non turbo version so I’m surprised it even moved once it was overfilled with teenagers. I thought it was pretty useless at the time but looking back it probably taught me a lot more about maintaining speed, using the gears and brakes as effectively as possible, and planning well ahead than if I’d have gone straight into something with more guts that made a lot of the driving easy for you.

I properly enjoyed the 309 I had later in life too. It was only bought as a cheap runaround car but it was fun to drive and never missed a beat. I made more than I paid for it when I traded it in as well which was a bonus. The only problem I ever experienced was when I jumped out at a petrol station to pop some air in the tyres, shut the door behind me and the central locking activated locking me out and the keys inside. Luckily the garage had cover to get stranded vehicles removed safely from the forecourt so a recovery bloke came out. It was shockingly easy for him to ‘break in’ and retrieve the keys!!

I am yet to see a 309 in Nigeria. However, 304 & 305 sold well here. Quite a lot of them on the roads back then. But no one drives them now.

Nigerians are not into vintage or classic cars. I remember how I was laughed at by everyone in 2010 when I ordered my 505. Well, mine is still on the road. The ones they had at that time have either died or scrapped.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

[Arsecati]

J4CKO said:

Ikenna351 - Lion King - Monk,

This guy may be your kind of thing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UfS2XwBdg

British Youtuber who does in depth reviews of modern classics, usually he goes for the more mundane stuff rather than the usual fancy stuff, 505 in this case if you havent already seen it.

I really liked the 309 I had bought by my dad very cheaply and fixed up, my brother had one as well, great little cars, mine was a "Look" special edition.

Been subscribed to Ian for a few years now (long before he cut his hair!). Top lad.

[nickod]

Ikenna351 said:

gigglebug said:

Never seen him before, quite liked the video though so I’ll watch some more.

The first car I had access to after I passed my test was my dad’s 405 diesel. It was a non turbo version so I’m surprised it even moved once it was overfilled with teenagers. I thought it was pretty useless at the time but looking back it probably taught me a lot more about maintaining speed, using the gears and brakes as effectively as possible, and planning well ahead than if I’d have gone straight into something with more guts that made a lot of the driving easy for you.

I properly enjoyed the 309 I had later in life too. It was only bought as a cheap runaround car but it was fun to drive and never missed a beat. I made more than I paid for it when I traded it in as well which was a bonus. The only problem I ever experienced was when I jumped out at a petrol station to pop some air in the tyres, shut the door behind me and the central locking activated locking me out and the keys inside. Luckily the garage had cover to get stranded vehicles removed safely from the forecourt so a recovery bloke came out. It was shockingly easy for him to ‘break in’ and retrieve the keys!!

I am yet to see a 309 in Nigeria. However, 304 & 305 sold well here. Quite a lot of them on the roads back then. But no one drives them now.

Nigerians are not into vintage or classic cars. I remember how I was laughed at by everyone in 2010 when I ordered my 505. Well, mine is still on the road. The ones they had at that time have either died or scrapped.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

Or old houses. My brother in law doesn't understand why I'd choose to live in a Victorian house.

Nickod, Barney rides again- spooning champion

[bolidemichael]

nickod said:

Ikenna351 said:

gigglebug said:

Never seen him before, quite liked the video though so I’ll watch some more.

The first car I had access to after I passed my test was my dad’s 405 diesel. It was a non turbo version so I’m surprised it even moved once it was overfilled with teenagers. I thought it was pretty useless at the time but looking back it probably taught me a lot more about maintaining speed, using the gears and brakes as effectively as possible, and planning well ahead than if I’d have gone straight into something with more guts that made a lot of the driving easy for you.

I properly enjoyed the 309 I had later in life too. It was only bought as a cheap runaround car but it was fun to drive and never missed a beat. I made more than I paid for it when I traded it in as well which was a bonus. The only problem I ever experienced was when I jumped out at a petrol station to pop some air in the tyres, shut the door behind me and the central locking activated locking me out and the keys inside. Luckily the garage had cover to get stranded vehicles removed safely from the forecourt so a recovery bloke came out. It was shockingly easy for him to ‘break in’ and retrieve the keys!!

I am yet to see a 309 in Nigeria. However, 304 & 305 sold well here. Quite a lot of them on the roads back then. But no one drives them now.

Nigerians are not into vintage or classic cars. I remember how I was laughed at by everyone in 2010 when I ordered my 505. Well, mine is still on the road. The ones they had at that time have either died or scrapped.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

Or old houses. My brother in law doesn't understand why I'd choose to live in a Victorian house.

Nickod, Barney rides again- spooning champion

I was lucky to get a second hand 309GTi that had one owner - a lady. It was so tight and handled brilliantly. My favourite ever drive was on the A68 from Edinburgh where I had been visiting my brother at uni, it was made for this sinuous and undulating A road. I then changed it for a Goodwood edition which was ropey in comparison.

The interior on the first 309GTi was the black and red fabric, which felt lovely and tactile. The seats were supportive too and the sunroof large.

bolidemichael, La Haine - Water Boy

[benzinbob]

J4CKO said:

Ikenna351 - Lion King - Monk,

This guy may be your kind of thing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UfS2XwBdg

British Youtuber who does in depth reviews of modern classics, usually he goes for the more mundane stuff rather than the usual fancy stuff, 505 in this case if you havent already seen it.

I really liked the 309 I had bought by my dad very cheaply and fixed up, my brother had one as well, great little cars, mine was a "Look" special edition.

Good channel recommendation- anything similar out there?

[Lollypops]

Did you get the 306 GTi-6 or the Rallye in Nigeria?

[Ikenna351]

Lollypops said:

Did you get the 306 GTi-6 or the Rallye in Nigeria?

Sometime late last year or few months ago, I was on Garki to Maitama expressway in Abuja in my D9 406 V6 (I was gunning for it though). Then a Peugeot 306 hatchback joined the expressway from service lane in front of me and took off wildly. The way the car zoomed off got my attention, as the car kept fading away. So, I downshifted to 3 and left it there. By the time I shifted up to 4, I was already directly behind the 306. I didn't overtake because I only wanted to see the badge. Lo & behold, it was GTI-6. The very first time I saw one flesh and blood. So, I reduced my speed and the car disappeared from sight seconds later.

I was really impressed and still is. I didn't know the NA 2.0 liter XU10J4RS engine could be this quick in 306 (read about it in the past, but experience is different from words). At 165hp & 193 Nm power, I would love to test drive one someday. The fact that it comes with 6-speed manual as standard makes it more interesting for me to drive.


Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

[gigglebug]

bolidemichael said:

I was lucky to get a second hand 309GTi that had one owner - a lady. It was so tight and handled brilliantly. My favourite ever drive was on the A68 from Edinburgh where I had been visiting my brother at uni, it was made for this sinuous and undulating A road. I then changed it for a Goodwood edition which was ropey in comparison.

The interior on the first 309GTi was the black and red fabric, which felt lovely and tactile. The seats were supportive too and the sunroof large.

bolidemichael, La Haine - Water Boy

Mine was an XS which may have been a GTI light? Definitely had the sunroof, you are right it was a good one. It was one of those cars with which you could keep on it most of the time and not be driving like a fool to do so, it flowed really well in the country lanes.

[bolidemichael]

Ikenna351 said:

Lollypops said:

Did you get the 306 GTi-6 or the Rallye in Nigeria?

Sometime late last year or few months ago, I was on Garki to Maitama expressway in Abuja in my D9 406 V6 (I was gunning for it though). Then a Peugeot 306 hatchback joined the expressway from service lane in front of me and took off wildly. The way the car zoomed off got my attention, as the car kept fading away. So, I downshifted to 3 and left it there. By the time I shifted up to 4, I was already directly behind the 306. I didn't overtake because I only wanted to see the badge. Lo & behold, it was GTI-6. The very first time I saw one flesh and blood. So, I reduced my speed and the car disappeared from sight seconds later.

I was really impressed and still is. I didn't know the NA 2.0 liter XU10J4RS engine could be this quick in 306 (read about it in the past, but experience is different from words). At 165hp & 193 Nm power, I would love to test drive one someday. The fact that it comes with 6-speed manual as standard makes it more interesting for me to drive.


Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

Speaking of which, on your youtube videos, you really pick up speed on the open roads in the 406. No feeling like opening the throttle!

bolidemichael, La Haine - Water Boy

[Kawasicki]

The promise of the Peugeot 605.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bse4OOQRDJo

My brother in law let me borrow his for a few weeks in Ireland. It was a nice car!

[Ikenna351]

The picture below was taken by me in one of my adventures with my 406 V6 Stick-Shift in year 2015. The rock is called Zuma rock, somewhere in Northern part of Nigeria. It's a tourist place.

I was a boy the first time I saw and came close to the rock and I was in a Peugeot (504 GL) being driven by my father when it happened. And the 2nd time I saw and came close again to the rock was as a man, driven myself to the rock in my own Peugeot too. The big rock has two eyes & nose (I think mouth too) and it has been like that for many generations. And no one knew how those eyes and nose were carved in the middle of the rock in the ancient times or what kind of technology that was used back then to do it. There are so many superstitious stories or mysteries surrounding that rock.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

[gigglebug]

Nice picture and story to go with it. Do you see any 407 coupes in Nigeria?

[Ikenna351]

gigglebug said:

Nice picture and story to go with it. Do you see any 407 coupes in Nigeria?

Yes, they are available here. I have diagnosed, repaired and test driven some. The common 407 coupé in Nigeria have 2.2i EW12J4 engines with 6-speed manuals and V6 automatic. However, I have once driven a 407 V6 6-speed manual coupé once and haven't seen any other manual one since then over here in Abuja.

The 407 coupé road handling is much better than the saloon & SW 407. Except the coupé is heavier. In fact, all 407 are too heavy for my liking. Even 407 V6 is heavier than my 607 V6 (same engine and transmission).


Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

[gigglebug]

Ikenna351 said:

Yes, they are available here. I have diagnosed, repaired and test driven some. The common 407 coupé in Nigeria have 2.2i EW12J4 engines with 6-speed manuals and V6 automatic. However, I have once driven a 407 V6 6-speed manual coupé once and haven't seen any other manual one since then over here in Abuja.

The 407 coupé road handling is much better than the saloon & SW 407. Except the coupé is heavier. In fact, all 407 are too heavy for my liking. Even 407 V6 is heavier than my 607 V6 (same engine and transmission).


Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

Yes they are heavy and because of it are a bit underpowered but they can represent a lot of car for the money over here.

[BFleming]

gigglebug said:

bolidemichael said:

I was lucky to get a second hand 309GTi that had one owner - a lady. It was so tight and handled brilliantly. My favourite ever drive was on the A68 from Edinburgh where I had been visiting my brother at uni, it was made for this sinuous and undulating A road. I then changed it for a Goodwood edition which was ropey in comparison.

The interior on the first 309GTi was the black and red fabric, which felt lovely and tactile. The seats were supportive too and the sunroof large.

bolidemichael, La Haine - Water Boy

Mine was an XS which may have been a GTI light? Definitely had the sunroof, you are right it was a good one. It was one of those cars with which you could keep on it most of the time and not be driving like a fool to do so, it flowed really well in the country lanes.

I had a phase 2 309GTI that I loved. It left me too soon, but what a drive! I picked it up from the Peugeot dealer in Essen, having parted with my early 205GT. I remember the price of my 309 was 10,000DM - about £4k. It was 5 years old I think, one local owner. It was phenominal. I took it on the A52 towards my home, and ran out of petrol almost immediately. Luckily the fuel gauge in my 205 was unreliable, so I had a gallon petrol can with me!!!
That car served me well, but eventually had a crash on the autobahn near Frankfurt and was destroyed. I've always thought about another one, but those days are gone now.

[MorganP104]

nickod said:

So having not driven a 406, what is the ride/ suspension like in comparison to a W124 Mercedes for example?

Nickod , Freddie got fingered - Genuine Merkin

I've driven a few, and the ride stands up well against contemporary German offerings. The French go about the business of on-the-limit handling slightly different than ze Germans, so there's more body roll, and more opportunity to cock a rear wheel, and even a whiff of lift-off oversteer.

Part of this, of course, is because Mercs are rear wheel drive, and 406s were front wheel drive.

Interestingly (or not), I have a mate with the same first name as you, who owned a 406, and lives in the Mid-Befordshire town you mentioned in a previous post signature. Small world.

MorganP104, Snakes On A Plane - Organist