RE: UK (finally) registers millionth electric vehicle
Discussion
Nomme de Plum said:
I disagree vehemently. The Taycan I had was a great drive very rapid with good handling and the i3s i have in the UK is a hoot to drive.
As they say there are none so blind.
The Taycan is considered one of the best to drive cars today full stop, let alone best to drive EV, that’s some high praise.As they say there are none so blind.
Nomme de Plum said:
monkfish1 said:
simonrockman said:
Mafioso said:
Surely nobody in their right mind actually buys an EV? I assume most on the road are fleet vehicles or leased?
There is something magic about EVs that turns even the most dedicated car nut into an accountant. Watch this thread, and even on Pistonheads, it will be about cost per pile, BIK, residual value.
There will be nothing about low centre of mass, torque, or driving pleasure. And this is Pistonheads not Money Supermarket.
As they say there are none so blind.
Your idea of fun may differ from others'...
V 02 said:
Nomme de Plum said:
I disagree vehemently. The Taycan I had was a great drive very rapid with good handling and the i3s i have in the UK is a hoot to drive.
As they say there are none so blind.
The Taycan is considered one of the best to drive cars today full stop, let alone best to drive EV, that’s some high praise.As they say there are none so blind.
911Spanker said:
Didn't you say before that you aren't really a driver and don't much care for cars?
Your idea of fun may differ from others'...
No.Your idea of fun may differ from others'...
I said I now use a car for the function of transport which is much the same as 99.9% of the population.
I was karting in my teens and have owned many fun cars Lotuses and TVRs and built a 380bhp Exige S1 for track use 20 odd years ago.. I was rebuilding engines and gearboxes back in the early 70s. As we learn more we move on or should do if we care for the future.
My parents were smokers but as soon as evidence indicated the damage they stopped long before the belated legislation we now have.
V 02 said:
How much to bet 911Spanker has a Vauxhall Insignia diesel?
To be honest I do not care what anyone else drives currently. It is the blind and ignorant prejudice which is tiresome. Nobody is being forced from their ICE not this week or at anytime for the foreseeable future. Maybe I am cursed with my science/ engineering background.
V 02 said:
monkfish1 said:
Nothing about driving pleasure. Because there isnt any.
Think you should have a drive in a Taycan, Abarth 500e, Mini Cooper S or an iPace..codenamecueball said:
Tye Green said:
another private buyer here.
to say "surely nobody in their right mind actually buys an EV" suggests that you are able to know for certain, in advance, the relative running costs, associated risks and eventual resale value of EVs v ICE vehicles. how do you get such knowledge?
another here.to say "surely nobody in their right mind actually buys an EV" suggests that you are able to know for certain, in advance, the relative running costs, associated risks and eventual resale value of EVs v ICE vehicles. how do you get such knowledge?
cost me about £1400 to keep on the road last year including fuel, tax, servicing and insurance over 8,000 miles. not bad value for a car that prinicipally does around town driving. if i bought a quick piston car it would rarely get up to temperature and cost a fortune when it goes kaput. 0% finance so the stack of cash that would have gone to pay for it is earning 4%.
depreciation is another story and not great for me - bought when the market was heavily inflated so experienced rapid losses, but can't see it sliding much further and in any case depreciation is realised when i sell it which will be in a few years time.
If I was only doing 8k I'd go back to my 308 GTi which was about £2200 for that mileage (again, including tyres). But it's horses for courses.
I'll never have an EV on drive but I can see the appeal. The big thing for me is that we're being forced in to them to appear 'green' when we refuse to tackle the actual route causes of overpopulation & consumerism.
stavers said:
Not sure what EV you have but my 308 diesel estate cost me £1875 over the same distance (I did closer to 30k miles but have worked out the per mile cost and then factored it for 8k). Considering that included a set of 4 Michelin tyres that doesn't seem a huge additional on-cost to not have an EV on the drive - especically since I can't have a home charger and the boot is bigger than most EVs I've looked at.
If I was only doing 8k I'd go back to my 308 GTi which was about £2200 for that mileage (again, including tyres). But it's horses for courses.
I'll never have an EV on drive but I can see the appeal. The big thing for me is that we're being forced in to them to appear 'green' when we refuse to tackle the actual route causes of overpopulation & consumerism.
We do not have overpopulation but consumerism is a slightly different issue. If I was only doing 8k I'd go back to my 308 GTi which was about £2200 for that mileage (again, including tyres). But it's horses for courses.
I'll never have an EV on drive but I can see the appeal. The big thing for me is that we're being forced in to them to appear 'green' when we refuse to tackle the actual route causes of overpopulation & consumerism.
The CO2 into the atmosphere has been produced until recently by a small minority of the global population. Surely we can hardly deny other developing nations a better standard of living including eduction and healthcare.
When anyone will, be able to buy a shiny new ICE up to 2035 and also buy used thereafter I fail to see how you can reconcile that with being forced into EVs. I trust you understand that emissions cause damage to peoples health and especially children's brain development.
simundo777 said:
Well anyone that did will be crying into their soya milk when they realise how much it's actually cost them!
I am on my second EV.Ist was a Nissan leaf bought for £10250 2 years old 20,000 miles. Sold 3 years later for £8500 with 52000 miles zero maintenance. Bought an i3 rex 2 years old 21000 miles paid £17500, current value having owned it 5 years and 35000miles added would seem to be £13500. So I am more than happy. Other than tyres and an oil change on rex minimal maintenance. Obviously other ppl have other stories experiences
V 02 said:
monkfish1 said:
Nothing about driving pleasure. Because there isnt any.
Think you should have a drive in a Taycan, Abarth 500e, Mini Cooper S or an iPace..However it isn't as much fun as the petrol one.
bodhi said:
V 02 said:
monkfish1 said:
Nothing about driving pleasure. Because there isnt any.
Think you should have a drive in a Taycan, Abarth 500e, Mini Cooper S or an iPace..However it isn't as much fun as the petrol one.
The one you drove in was based on a modified ICE version. The new dedicated EV chassis version should be better.
Nomme de Plum said:
bodhi said:
V 02 said:
monkfish1 said:
Nothing about driving pleasure. Because there isnt any.
Think you should have a drive in a Taycan, Abarth 500e, Mini Cooper S or an iPace..However it isn't as much fun as the petrol one.
The one you drove in was based on a modified ICE version. The new dedicated EV chassis version should be better.
Can't help thinking the Cooper SE would have been more fun if they'd left the shared components where they are in the i3 - mainly having the motor driving the rear wheels.
I've driven a few EVs now and whilst they are perfectly pleasant, I always preferred the drive home in one of my ICE cars. Can't say I'd be in a hurry to add to the 1 million people who've bought one on the driving experience.
V 02 said:
911Spanker said:
I don't but would have no issue if I did.
Just had a look at your garage
LolJust had a look at your garage
I would have liked to see a fuel guzzling V6 or V8 petrol in the fleet though for me!
bodhi said:
V 02 said:
monkfish1 said:
Nothing about driving pleasure. Because there isnt any.
Think you should have a drive in a Taycan, Abarth 500e, Mini Cooper S or an iPace..However it isn't as much fun as the petrol one.
bodhi said:
I've spent some time in a standard i3 and didn't find it a hoot unfortunately - on faster roads it felt downright dangerous at times with dodgy suspension and skinny tyres - and have no wish to drive one ever again.
Can't help thinking the Cooper SE would have been more fun if they'd left the shared components where they are in the i3 - mainly having the motor driving the rear wheels.
I've driven a few EVs now and whilst they are perfectly pleasant, I always preferred the drive home in one of my ICE cars. Can't say I'd be in a hurry to add to the 1 million people who've bought one on the driving experience.
I've driven a few now and clearly the stand out one is the Taycan 4S I had. It handled well and went like a rocket. Can't help thinking the Cooper SE would have been more fun if they'd left the shared components where they are in the i3 - mainly having the motor driving the rear wheels.
I've driven a few EVs now and whilst they are perfectly pleasant, I always preferred the drive home in one of my ICE cars. Can't say I'd be in a hurry to add to the 1 million people who've bought one on the driving experience.
I love my i3s but will change the springs and damping at some point. I do't have an issue with the tyres which in anywise are wider on the s but understand Goodyear are a better option. The EV is faster and quieter than an equivalently powered ICE and the low CoG and polar moment makes a big difference to handling.
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