Best/Worst OEM Wheels

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AppleJuice

2,154 posts

87 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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cogboy said:
Aaaaaand it only took 15 pages until someone posted the correct answer for the best wheels of Evar - the Ruf Speedline. The one & only answer. Tell him what he's won Bob.
1 post in 100 months... Top lurking! thumbup

cogboy

2 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Yep. Couldn't remember my password. Been busy. Never felt strongly enough about anything up till now to post.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Its good that some fairly nice wheels have brought you out of hibernation.

peteA

2,683 posts

236 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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matrignano said:
I’m biased but I agree!
Much better than any of the later wheels, mostly diamond turned and blingy.
V12VS lightweight wheel is the only other I like in the range.
Go on then...




F1GTRUeno

6,387 posts

220 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Sebastian Tombs said:
Has anyone mentioned Aston DB9 sportspack alloys yet? Just lovely!
The DB9 was my favourite car for a long, long time but I always thought it only ever looked right on the original wheels.



The slight lip on them from this angle always fit right with the sill/skirt line IMO.

AlmostUseful

3,286 posts

202 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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2ono said:
Escort3500 said:
McLaren. Truly terrible.
They look like a wheel made of ice scrapers!
Which goes perfectly with the opinion that McLaren prefer function to form.

AlmostUseful

3,286 posts

202 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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I’m biased but really like the 18’s on my F30 335D. Not too fussy, not too big. They do weigh a tonne though!




smileymikey

1,446 posts

228 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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I really like the wheels on my wife's 147 Collezione




thiscocks

3,133 posts

197 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Saw these on a 15 plate Renault Kangoo the other day. Never seen this style of steels before thought they looked cool.



Cant find out of they are an option on the Kangoo or if they are retro fit.

snotrag

14,644 posts

213 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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They will be Dacia wheels.
(Dacias are built from bitsofold Renault so i bet they are the same PCD.)

thiscocks

3,133 posts

197 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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ah probably!

loop swing

23 posts

166 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Every time I see these, I throw up a little hurl

vikingaero

10,563 posts

171 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Most 5 spoke alloys look good in standard silver. 6-8 spokes can be OK. Any more and the multi-spokes look untidy and grim as most aren't cleaned properly.

Best alloy wheel ever? vikingaero. /thread biggrin

LHB

7,947 posts

145 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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loop swing said:


Every time I see these, I throw up a little hurl
+1, however Ford can do nice wheels. The wheels that came on my Fiesta are lovely in my opinion




DoubleD

22,154 posts

110 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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vikingaero said:
Most 5 spoke alloys look good in standard silver. 6-8 spokes can be OK. Any more and the multi-spokes look untidy and grim as most aren't cleaned properly.

Best alloy wheel ever? vikingaero. /thread biggrin
What do they look like?

Uncle John

4,340 posts

193 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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I love multi spokers!!

Focus RS, bugger to clean though.



& Merc AMG six spokes.



I can’t stand black wheels on anything.

dbdb

4,345 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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They're probably quite old fashioned now, but I have always liked the OEM Jaguar 16" forged wheels made by BBS fitted to my old Sovereign.

P1120635-70 by *D*B*, on Flickr


And the Campagnolo wheels fitted by Maserati to the glorious Khamsin:



and one of my favourites also by Campagnolo, fitted by ISO to the Lele and Fidia:




Matt-il77s

330 posts

92 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Never liked these on the Mondeo, 16" wheels just look far too small on such a big car


ess

793 posts

180 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Tigger2050

707 posts

75 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Matt-il77s said:
Never liked these on the Mondeo, 16" wheels just look far too small on such a big car

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I deliberately changed the standard 19" wheels on my X sport, which has the lowered, and stiffened suspension for 16" ones. They might not look quite as fashionable, in the current trend to massively over wheel cars but I care far more for ride, handling and acceleration.







These are 215/55 16 as against 235/40 19 as issued. The radius is smaller by just over 4%. 215/60 16 on this would actually match the larger wheel radius. This has the overall effect of improving the ride by a significant amount, with the far deeper more supple tyre walls.
Also it has the effect of slightly lowering the gearing improving the acceleration, theoretically it could increase MPG but for many reasons it won't, the lower gearing, allows me to potter in fifth at less than 1000 rpm on the daily, 30 mph, town commute, the 450 Nm of torque allows it do this. A higher gearing would need me to be in fourth raising the actual revs.


These wheels and tyres are 7.5 Kg lighter than the 19” ones, this is a very significant 30 Kg saving in unsprung weight.

It will be faster to accelerate in any gear and lowering the car relative to standard Mondeo’s and the standard X Sports, as the engines torque can spin these lighter wheels up much faster. Probably will increase the overall top speed as well, as the thinner tyres offer less wind resistance overall, as wheels and tyres are a major contributor to a cars aerodynamics, there is not much manufacturers can do to reduce wind resistance from the wheels.

What stops this car travelling faster is when it runs out of power in order to move more air out of the way and this is way short of peak revs. With less air to move it can achieve a higher speed.

On handling with the smaller tyre, the contact area is the same size as on the wider tyre as this is decided by weight and tyre pressure. The contact patch is a different shape though, being longer and thinner. Given a perfectly smooth road surface this tyre should start to lose grip earlier due to the bigger slip angle of the higher profile tyre and the fact the tyre will start to slide from the slimmer front of the contact patch. The wider contact patch of the bigger lower profile tyre will therefore hang on longer but will break away less progressively as it is a shorter contact patch. The driver gets more warning about reducing traction with the slimmer tyre.

It all presupposes a smooth surface though, on a bumpy ridged surface, the suspension will be able to keep the lighter wheels in contact with the road surface more readily, so through any particular corner you might well have an overall higher average traction than with the heavier more bouncy wheel.

The advantages of smaller, lighter wheels in a road car are so pronounced, it is surprising that fashion so overrules logic and utility.




Edited by Tigger2050 on Saturday 16th March 14:52