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Chestrockwell said:
Not being a hypocrite but there’s levels to the f
k up-ery
320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
How do you know it had 150 bhp?k up-ery 320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
Could have been chipped.
Assumption, the mother of all evil.
Chestrockwell said:
Not being a hypocrite but there’s levels to the fk up-ery
320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
What does some M bling and a wrapped roof got to do with his driving ability ,or lack of ?....k up-ery 320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
Chestrockwell said:
Not being a hypocrite but there’s levels to the fk up-ery
320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
You are being a hypocrite, we know nothing about what cause this accident so it is all speculation. k up-ery 320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
If I remember correctly from the thread your incident was entirely your fault and it was only luck that it didn't turn out alot worse.
Edited by Leon R on Sunday 27th October 20:52
Chestrockwell said:
Not being a hypocrite but there’s levels to the fk up-ery
320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
You really are.k up-ery 320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
You're also putting a massive amount of speculation into a situation which we can only see the aftermath of. You've posted pictures of a randomly crashed BMW in order to prolong your nonsensical argument about RWD cars, particularly BMWs, and how nightmarishly bitey they are. Itself an extension of you getting caught out driving like a throbber on the motorway.
ferrisbueller said:
You really are.
You're also putting a massive amount of speculation into a situation which we can only see the aftermath of. You've posted pictures of a randomly crashed BMW in order to prolong your nonsensical argument about RWD cars, particularly BMWs, and how nightmarishly bitey they are. Itself an extension of you getting caught out driving like a throbber on the motorway.
Why are you so offended every time, it’s the internet, I posted something to spark a discussion, you need to relax a bit You're also putting a massive amount of speculation into a situation which we can only see the aftermath of. You've posted pictures of a randomly crashed BMW in order to prolong your nonsensical argument about RWD cars, particularly BMWs, and how nightmarishly bitey they are. Itself an extension of you getting caught out driving like a throbber on the motorway.
Chestrockwell said:
ferrisbueller said:
You really are.
You're also putting a massive amount of speculation into a situation which we can only see the aftermath of. You've posted pictures of a randomly crashed BMW in order to prolong your nonsensical argument about RWD cars, particularly BMWs, and how nightmarishly bitey they are. Itself an extension of you getting caught out driving like a throbber on the motorway.
Why are you so offended every time, it’s the internet, I posted something to spark a discussion, you need to relax a bit You're also putting a massive amount of speculation into a situation which we can only see the aftermath of. You've posted pictures of a randomly crashed BMW in order to prolong your nonsensical argument about RWD cars, particularly BMWs, and how nightmarishly bitey they are. Itself an extension of you getting caught out driving like a throbber on the motorway.
t.Chestrockwell said:
Not being a hypocrite but there’s levels to the fk up-ery
320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
So what you gonna do? Trawl the internet for photos of binned motors to post on this thread?k up-ery 320i with m colours on the grill, wrapped black roof and dual exit exhausts, 150 bhp in a big heavy car.
I wonder how he ended up in that ditch like that, how fast was he going!
What's your point?
Also, your last sentence above makes no sense with an exclamation mark. Try again.
Oh and your comment to Ferris, about it being internet. Well, yes, it is indeed. Well observed.
What's your point about the internet?
Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 27th October 21:00
TheJimi said:
So what you gonna do? Trawl the internet for photos of binned motors to post on this thread?
What's your point?
Thread started off with a Ferrari in a ditch, we all had a discussion about how it happened and how different drivetrain configurations affect driving in the rain, the debates got heated as they do on PH (I never get wound up though as I come here for fun in my spare time unlike others) the thread died off, I spotted a BMW in a ditch on Facebook, posted it here with a tongue in cheek comment and everyone started crying! What's your point?
I want to say I won’t do it again but surely that defeats the purpose of an open public forum?
Aquaplaning, Its happened TWICE to me 1st time 2004 Dax Tojeiro (AC Cobra Replica).
Motorway, Straight road, I was in the outside lane, 55 to 60 mph pouring with rain, no roof on the car, hit one of those tarmac transition strips, next thing I knew I was going backwards at 55 mph and I was facing a sea of white headlights at rush hour!
I put my foot on the clutch and let the car drift backwards, the car then went from the outside lane quickly moving backwards into the middle lane, then the nearside lane and continued into the hard shoulder, only then did I slowly apply the brakes, the engine had stalled and I came to a stop, The car was undamaged! I had hit no one and no one had hit me, also I did not cause any third party accidents.
I sat there in the car facing the passing traffic frozen. Then a Van pulled up further along the hard shoulder, the driver came running back asking if I was OK, he said it was the best thing he had ever seen
After he left,I had the daunting task of trying to restart the car and turn it around in the hard shoulder,so I had to wait for a big gap in the traffic.
I got home soaked and then changed my underpants!
2nd time I was just over a year ago, not going fast, I entered a roundabout, turned the steering to exit roundabout and for a few seconds nothing happened and the car slid onto a grass central reservation smashing the front splitter. speed was under 30mph!
High torque cars, wide tires and surface water don't mix.
I take my hat off to Racing drivers who drive at Le mans in the rain,they must have cast Iron Underpants!
Motorway, Straight road, I was in the outside lane, 55 to 60 mph pouring with rain, no roof on the car, hit one of those tarmac transition strips, next thing I knew I was going backwards at 55 mph and I was facing a sea of white headlights at rush hour!
I put my foot on the clutch and let the car drift backwards, the car then went from the outside lane quickly moving backwards into the middle lane, then the nearside lane and continued into the hard shoulder, only then did I slowly apply the brakes, the engine had stalled and I came to a stop, The car was undamaged! I had hit no one and no one had hit me, also I did not cause any third party accidents.
I sat there in the car facing the passing traffic frozen. Then a Van pulled up further along the hard shoulder, the driver came running back asking if I was OK, he said it was the best thing he had ever seen
After he left,I had the daunting task of trying to restart the car and turn it around in the hard shoulder,so I had to wait for a big gap in the traffic.I got home soaked and then changed my underpants!
2nd time I was just over a year ago, not going fast, I entered a roundabout, turned the steering to exit roundabout and for a few seconds nothing happened and the car slid onto a grass central reservation smashing the front splitter. speed was under 30mph!
High torque cars, wide tires and surface water don't mix.
I take my hat off to Racing drivers who drive at Le mans in the rain,they must have cast Iron Underpants!
TheJimi said:
So what you gonna do? Trawl the internet for photos of binned motors to post on this thread?
What's your point?
Also, your last sentence above makes no sense with an exclamation mark. Try again.
Oh and your comment to Ferris, about it being internet. Well, yes, it is indeed. Well observed.
What's your point about the internet?
Clutching at straws now with the punctuation remarks. You’re trying very hard to make me look stupid when I don’t care. What’s funny about your attempt to making me look stupid is that you edited your original comment instead of responding to my perfectly reasonable response to make yourself look less stupidWhat's your point?
Also, your last sentence above makes no sense with an exclamation mark. Try again.
Oh and your comment to Ferris, about it being internet. Well, yes, it is indeed. Well observed.
What's your point about the internet?
Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 27th October 21:00
rallycross said:
Why do these idiots like painting their roofs black? What is it supposed to mean/be having a black roof?
Very popular mod with idiots in white Audi’s mainly.
It might be to make them look like a carbon fibre roof or a glass 'moon roof'. Others might do it to visually lower the car.Very popular mod with idiots in white Audi’s mainly.
fatboy18 said:
Aquaplaning, Its happened TWICE to me 1st time 2004 Dax Tojeiro (AC Cobra Replica).
Motorway, Straight road, I was in the outside lane, 55 to 60 mph pouring with rain, no roof on the car, hit one of those tarmac transition strips, next thing I knew I was going backwards at 55 mph and I was facing a sea of white headlights at rush hour!
I put my foot on the clutch and let the car drift backwards, the car then went from the outside lane quickly moving backwards into the middle lane, then the nearside lane and continued into the hard shoulder, only then did I slowly apply the brakes, the engine had stalled and I came to a stop, The car was undamaged! I had hit no one and no one had hit me, also I did not cause any third party accidents.
I sat there in the car facing the passing traffic frozen. Then a Van pulled up further along the hard shoulder, the driver came running back asking if I was OK, he said it was the best thing he had ever seen After he left,I had the daunting task of trying to restart the car and turn it around in the hard shoulder,so I had to wait for a big gap in the traffic.
I got home soaked and then changed my underpants!
2nd time I was just over a year ago, not going fast, I entered a roundabout, turned the steering to exit roundabout and for a few seconds nothing happened and the car slid onto a grass central reservation smashing the front splitter. speed was under 30mph!
High torque cars, wide tires and surface water don't mix.
I take my hat off to Racing drivers who drive at Le mans in the rain,they must have cast Iron Underpants!
Thank you sir, this is what I’ve been trying to say for the past 2 years whenever the aqua planing topic gets mentioned. All of the BMW’s I’ve driven had those 3 things and when ever I mention it, I get virtually burned at the stakeMotorway, Straight road, I was in the outside lane, 55 to 60 mph pouring with rain, no roof on the car, hit one of those tarmac transition strips, next thing I knew I was going backwards at 55 mph and I was facing a sea of white headlights at rush hour!
I put my foot on the clutch and let the car drift backwards, the car then went from the outside lane quickly moving backwards into the middle lane, then the nearside lane and continued into the hard shoulder, only then did I slowly apply the brakes, the engine had stalled and I came to a stop, The car was undamaged! I had hit no one and no one had hit me, also I did not cause any third party accidents.
I sat there in the car facing the passing traffic frozen. Then a Van pulled up further along the hard shoulder, the driver came running back asking if I was OK, he said it was the best thing he had ever seen
After he left,I had the daunting task of trying to restart the car and turn it around in the hard shoulder,so I had to wait for a big gap in the traffic.I got home soaked and then changed my underpants!
2nd time I was just over a year ago, not going fast, I entered a roundabout, turned the steering to exit roundabout and for a few seconds nothing happened and the car slid onto a grass central reservation smashing the front splitter. speed was under 30mph!
High torque cars, wide tires and surface water don't mix.
I take my hat off to Racing drivers who drive at Le mans in the rain,they must have cast Iron Underpants!
I hadn't seen your reply when I edited it.
As for trying hard to make you look stupid...
Wait, you apparently don't care, because this is just the internet, yet by your own admission, you've spent two years thumping a particular tub.
The last word is yours, have at it.
As for trying hard to make you look stupid...
Wait, you apparently don't care, because this is just the internet, yet by your own admission, you've spent two years thumping a particular tub.
The last word is yours, have at it.
Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 27th October 21:18
Chestrockwell said:
Thank you sir, this is what I’ve been trying to say for the past 2 years whenever the aqua planing topic gets mentioned. All of the BMW’s I’ve driven had those 3 things and when ever I mention it, I get virtually burned at the stake
What has torque got to do with aquaplaning?Mike335i said:
Chestrockwell said:
Thank you sir, this is what I’ve been trying to say for the past 2 years whenever the aqua planing topic gets mentioned. All of the BMW’s I’ve driven had those 3 things and when ever I mention it, I get virtually burned at the stake
What has torque got to do with aquaplaning?Chestrockwell said:
Mike335i said:
Chestrockwell said:
Thank you sir, this is what I’ve been trying to say for the past 2 years whenever the aqua planing topic gets mentioned. All of the BMW’s I’ve driven had those 3 things and when ever I mention it, I get virtually burned at the stake
What has torque got to do with aquaplaning?As for traction / grip issues, I know that I can plant my right foot right down in the wet and electronics cut in before I can get it sideways. To actually get it out of shape in normal driving takes some doing, unless I turn off the safety nets. Poor tyres would also have a big impact, but even then I have driven a BMW in the snow on ditchfinders and still managed to not crash.
Point being, drive to the conditions and a BMW is as docile and safe as anything else.
Edit: re-reading the quote that you replied to included a reference to severe wet weather understeer off a roundabout, which I think we can all agree is not a RWD- only problem. So really what we are saying here is fat tyres, regardless of which end is powered, are not good in the wet.
Edited by Mike335i on Sunday 27th October 22:05
Edited by Mike335i on Sunday 27th October 22:06
Edited by Mike335i on Sunday 27th October 22:07
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