RE: Driven: BMW 1 Series M Coupé
Discussion
havoc said:
pilchardthecat said:
According to my local dealer these are going to be "just over £40k" so probably about £45kish with a few options.
Same as a 6mth old M3 then. No contest unless you're one of the "I HAVE to have a new car" brigade...i know where you're coming from, but why get a 6 month old M3 for £40k or so, when you could get a 5 year old DB9 for that....?
you get my point though?
aeropilot said:
havoc said:
pilchardthecat said:
According to my local dealer these are going to be "just over £40k" so probably about £45kish with a few options.
Same as a 6mth old M3 then. 
I haven't found one much under 2 years old for £40k....let alone 6 months old.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 20th October 14:11
Setting aside performance, which will be similar (albeit quite differently delivered - n/a V8 vs biturbo straight 6), a 135i is considerably cheaper to run than an E90 M3 (better fuel economy (average 33.2mpg rather than 22.8mpg), lower insurance grouping (34 rather than 43), cheaper tax (under 198g/km CO2 rather than 290g/km) and cheaper servicing).
No doubt a 1M will cost more to run in all areas than a 135i, but I would still expect it to be a lot easier on the wallet than an M3. Furthermore, if it's actually good, then given the limited production run it may well not depreciate too badly. Early E92s have dropped well under £30k now and following the form of the E46 (CSL excepted) will drop to mid-teens.
No doubt a 1M will cost more to run in all areas than a 135i, but I would still expect it to be a lot easier on the wallet than an M3. Furthermore, if it's actually good, then given the limited production run it may well not depreciate too badly. Early E92s have dropped well under £30k now and following the form of the E46 (CSL excepted) will drop to mid-teens.
Wolands Advocate said:
(better fuel economy (average 33.2mpg rather than 22.8mpg)
you don't seriously get 33mpg from yours do you?!?! 
I have to drive everywhere like a minicab driver not exeeding 1500rpm to get 26mpg from mine which is just pointless in a car like this. I average a steady 23.9 and most of my journeys are motorway.
///Mike said:
Wolands Advocate said:
(better fuel economy (average 33.2mpg rather than 22.8mpg)
you don't seriously get 33mpg from yours do you?!?! I have to drive everywhere like a minicab driver not exeeding 1500rpm to get 26mpg from mine which is just pointless in a car like this. I average a steady 23.9 and most of my journeys are motorway.
E21_Ross said:
seriously?! that's terrible. old man manages to average 19-20mpg in his M3 and that's a mix of town and motorway and he doesn't exactly drive like a granny.
In my experience, normally aspirated engines tend to get much closer to their "official" figure than turbocharged ones. I think I mentioned this before, but I can get over 40mpg out of my Z4 Coupé (3.0 litre N52 straight six), and tend to average around 30 on B roads, and 33-ish on a mix of roads. I don't drive especially slowly, but equally I'm quite gentle with the car and am not scared to use the gearbox rather than load it up with big throttle openings at low revs. I think much of it is down to driving style - I get a slightly better mpg out of my Dad's car than he does when I drive it, despite me driving quicker than him.
kambites said:
E21_Ross said:
seriously?! that's terrible. old man manages to average 19-20mpg in his M3 and that's a mix of town and motorway and he doesn't exactly drive like a granny.
In my experience, normally aspirated engines tend to get much closer to their "official" figure than turbocharged ones. 
t i know, but like i said, that's not really granny driving. when bumbling along at 80 or so, it shows at or around 30mpg, and over 30mpg can be had doing 70. still, like you say, why drive slowly in a car like that...E21_Ross said:
kambites said:
E21_Ross said:
seriously?! that's terrible. old man manages to average 19-20mpg in his M3 and that's a mix of town and motorway and he doesn't exactly drive like a granny.
In my experience, normally aspirated engines tend to get much closer to their "official" figure than turbocharged ones. t i know, but like i said, that's not really granny driving. when bumbling along at 80 or so, it shows at or around 30mpg, and over 30mpg can be had doing 70. still, like you say, why drive slowly in a car like that...
///Mike said:
Wolands Advocate said:
(better fuel economy (average 33.2mpg rather than 22.8mpg)
you don't seriously get 33mpg from yours do you?!?! I have to drive everywhere like a minicab driver not exeeding 1500rpm to get 26mpg from mine which is just pointless in a car like this. I average a steady 23.9 and most of my journeys are motorway.
You must have a lead foot or the car isn't run-in yet? Mine now has 16k on the clock and averages 28-30mpg and I don't spare the horses on mine (it has the Performance exhaust and I just can't resist the noise!). On a recent return run from London to Angus via the A1M/A68 (so circa 1,000 miles of crawl in and out of central London, a healthy dose of fast motorway cruising, some max-attack on fast twisty A-roads in the Borders and some rural driving up in Angus), the iDrive was telling me the car averaged 29.4mpg at an average speed of 61mph. I was fairly happy with that.
On a steady fast motorway run from Geneva to London earlier this year, I got an average consumption of over 30mpg.
However, when the car was brand new, it averaged much closer to 22-23mpg.
Edited by Wolands Advocate on Wednesday 20th October 17:49
pilchardthecat said:
That looks considerably worse than the ordinary 135i, and entirely not in keeping with the M styling that precedes it.
Are those press shots or just random magazine renderings?
it's a rendering. it hasn't been officially unveiled yet so i can't see how it's anything else to be honest.Are those press shots or just random magazine renderings?
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