One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

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yellowjack

17,108 posts

168 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Flibble said:
yellowjack said:
OpulentBob said:
Too bright can be as dangerous as not bright enough. These 1600W lights, angle them down and please avoid strobe mode, thanks.
Don't fret Bob. The light will be angled down, where it's of most use to me. And the 1600 lumens setting will only be used in the deepest darkest woodland to assist me in NOT crashing into trees or slipping on wet roots. It's got four less bright settings to choose from for road use, along with some flashing settings (which I probably won't use except as DRLs), but no real 'strobe' mode, thank Goodness. Drawing the amps to run at 1600 lumens the batteries won't last 2 hours, and you're right, it's probably too much for road use anyway. Ideal for the night time trial event at the Battle On The Beach mountain bike race I enter each Spring though... wink
Car headlights are a fair bit more than that. A single HID bulb is around 3200 lumens for instance. As long as you're not aiming it in people's faces I wouldn't worry in the slightest.
To be fair to Bob, though, I test-fitted them last night. I stood the bike against a wall and walked away from it, and even when they were angled downwards to the point where they weren't really throwing the light that far forward, there was still a lot of "extra" light escaping upward. In short, they were too bright at even the second brightness setting, and the spread of light was poorly aimed. It's not so much the "amount" of light they produce, but where it ends up.

I even asked a van driver who drove in to our cul-de-sac and asked about house numbers while I was pootling about making adjustments. His verdict was "yeah, to be fair mate, they are a bit bright, like..."

So the 'out front' mount has been sacked, and the lamps will now be mounted on the silicon strap mounts, wrapped around the handlebars. This means I'll be able to push them around the handlebar to face downward when needed, and then flip them back up again when no-one else is around. I'm hoping to test them off road at night soon, and if the silicon rubber strap works OK that will be a permanent solution. I may have to use the 'out front' mount for stability while off-roading though, so that'll be a faff getting the lamps swapped over.

The fact that the lamps aren't a focused beam is dreadful for road use, but will be great on local rooty MTB trails with low hanging branches, as the lights will illuminate not just the narrow trail ahead of me, but wash the surrounding trees and bushes with light, allowing me to ride faster, and more safely at night in the woods, without getting my face bashed in by low branches, and without ending up breaking to a halt to avoid a tree becuase I missed which way the trail turns (again!)...

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

118 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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jamei303 said:
A wise man your dad, who'd have thought it was a good idea not to stare at bright lights while trying to find your way in the dark?
silly

LuS1fer

41,192 posts

247 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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yellowjack said:
So the 'out front' mount has been sacked, and the lamps will now be mounted on the silicon strap mounts, wrapped around the handlebars. This means I'll be able to push them around the handlebar to face downward when needed, and then flip them back up again when no-one else is around. I'm hoping to test them off road at night soon, and if the silicon rubber strap works OK that will be a permanent solution. I may have to use the 'out front' mount for stability while off-roading though, so that'll be a faff getting the lamps swapped over.
I had extra LED lamps on my MSX125 as the lights were crap. I used a piece of plastic wastepipe tube between the handlebars and the silicon strap round that, soI could knock it down in the face of oncoming traffic. Standard lights were pathetic.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Our favorite quango the DVLA have made my week.

For months I have been trying to update my photo drivers licence. They sent the first one back because they didn't believe I was ten years older. I sent it back with another photo of me holding that days newspaper like a hostage but their sense of humor was lacking. So I did it online instead. All sorted and they have used my eighteen month old Passport photo. hehe

I'm looking forward to the day the DVLA database becomes a sentient AI and destroys the less intelligent humans that crated it.

Pan Pan Pan

10,006 posts

113 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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jamei303 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Some head lights these days do seem to be super bright, but oddly like moths to the flame our attention seems to be drawn to them.
Many years ago my Dad told me that where oncoming cars had very bright lights, or their lights on high beam, not to do the natural thing, and look at them, but instead focus on the nearside kerb, which greatly reduced the effect of the oncoming headlights, even where the oncoming vehicle has a moron at the wheel, who has left his headlights on high beam.
A wise man your dad, who'd have thought it was a good idea not to stare at bright lights while trying to find your way in the dark?
And yet that is what some people (like rabbits) can sometimes do. Focusing on the nearside kerb works even if the moron coming the other way has their high beams on.

Bobberoo99

39,167 posts

100 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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People, now I know this has been done but I'm exercising my right to be annoyed, shopping today in a well known supermarket I'm confronted by a couple walking side by side towards me, I'm over to the left as far as I can go but she still just walked straight at me, where exactly did she expect me to go????
Then we're coming down an aisle and can see two elderly couples having a reunion at the end of it blocking the aisle, the man in front of me says "excuse me" they part enough for him to get through then just step back in front of us and continue talking, why don't they just fk off out of the way?!?!?

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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This takes place on the Yorks side of Greater Manchester, you'll see why that's important in a bit.

Came out this morning to a flat tyre. No worries, I'll swap it for the space saver.

Knob event 1 - some arse has gunned up the wheel nuts to a brazillian lb/ft, so no amount of effort will get them off.

It's ok, there's a Halfords Autocentre just down the road, I'll limp the car there and bung the guy a tenner to swap the wheels for me. Saves me getting wet and the awkward nut issue.

Arrive at Halfords, in the waiting area is a woman. Worker asks how he can help me. I explain and he says, "ah, you and this lady both have the same 'stuck nuts' problem". I chuckle.

Knob event 2 then follows - second worker says to the woman, "I'm afraid your tyres are all down to the cords".
Her answer? "What does that mean?"

Knob event 3 - having had it explained to her that they're A) dangerous and B) illegal, she decides to drive off on them anyway... To WALES!

In short, you're a knob if you over-tighten wheel nuts, drive a car without understanding even the most fundamental, sadety-critical components and/or then choose to put at risk yourselves and everyone around you to save £150 or so. If you can't afford a car, take the bus.

langtounlad

782 posts

173 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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I took the wife's car back to the tyre-fitters yesterday to have the tyre fitted that they had ordered in.

The manager returned to the desk a few minutes later to advise me that they can't get the locking nut off 'because they had been put on too tight by the previous garage'.

He was suitably embarrassed when I suggested that he went back to the workshop to have a word with his own team. They had refitted the wheel last week when I took the car in for what I had hoped would be a repair to a slow puncture! The pinhole air leak was too close to the edge of the tyre - hence the new tyre being placed on order.

They then tried to get the wheel off but the locking nut broke.
I now have to take it to another garage have a nut welded on the locking nut to allow it to be released.

The tyre-fitters are paying for a new set of locking nuts from BMW & for the garage to free off the nut and a further discount on the price of the new tyre.
All the wheels have just been refurbished so this saga may not yet be over if the wheel gets damaged.

Apparently they have some new staff who used an airgun to tighten the nuts last week - knobs! (And the management team are also knobs for not doing the proper training)

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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That was lucky. I have known wheel bolts to snap on the motorway after being over tightened at a garage.

Lucky they're only paying for a set of locking nuts and not looking at Manslaughter.

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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ferrariF50lover said:
This takes place on the Yorks side of Greater Manchester, you'll see why that's important in a bit.

Came out this morning to a flat tyre. No worries, I'll swap it for the space saver.

Knob event 1 - some arse has gunned up the wheel nuts to a brazillian lb/ft, so no amount of effort will get them off.

It's ok, there's a Halfords Autocentre just down the road, I'll limp the car there and bung the guy a tenner to swap the wheels for me. Saves me getting wet and the awkward nut issue.

Arrive at Halfords, in the waiting area is a woman. Worker asks how he can help me. I explain and he says, "ah, you and this lady both have the same 'stuck nuts' problem". I chuckle.

Knob event 2 then follows - second worker says to the woman, "I'm afraid your tyres are all down to the cords".
Her answer? "What does that mean?"

Knob event 3 - having had it explained to her that they're A) dangerous and B) illegal, she decides to drive off on them anyway... To WALES!

In short, you're a knob if you over-tighten wheel nuts, drive a car without understanding even the most fundamental, sadety-critical components and/or then choose to put at risk yourselves and everyone around you to save £150 or so. If you can't afford a car, take the bus.
if Halfords were ISO9001 then they wouldn't be allowed to let the customer leave in an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle. Technically therefore bad practice to have done so.

giantdefy

685 posts

115 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Observed today when walking into town, 30 limit, a cyclist was approaching a pinch point so was riding, quite correctly, out from the kerb and two cars were behind him. The first was tracking him and waiting for a chance to overtake, whereas the tt in the BMW 4x4 decided that, as the owner of a big motor, he could overtake both by going the wrong side of the pinch point.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
ferrariF50lover said:
This takes place on the Yorks side of Greater Manchester, you'll see why that's important in a bit.

Came out this morning to a flat tyre. No worries, I'll swap it for the space saver.

Knob event 1 - some arse has gunned up the wheel nuts to a brazillian lb/ft, so no amount of effort will get them off.

It's ok, there's a Halfords Autocentre just down the road, I'll limp the car there and bung the guy a tenner to swap the wheels for me. Saves me getting wet and the awkward nut issue.

Arrive at Halfords, in the waiting area is a woman. Worker asks how he can help me. I explain and he says, "ah, you and this lady both have the same 'stuck nuts' problem". I chuckle.

Knob event 2 then follows - second worker says to the woman, "I'm afraid your tyres are all down to the cords".
Her answer? "What does that mean?"

Knob event 3 - having had it explained to her that they're A) dangerous and B) illegal, she decides to drive off on them anyway... To WALES!

In short, you're a knob if you over-tighten wheel nuts, drive a car without understanding even the most fundamental, sadety-critical components and/or then choose to put at risk yourselves and everyone around you to save £150 or so. If you can't afford a car, take the bus.
if Halfords were ISO9001 then they wouldn't be allowed to let the customer leave in an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle. Technically therefore bad practice to have done so.
Bringing me back to my Manslaughter comment about over tight wheel bolts failing later down the road. Letting someone go in a dangerous vehicle should mean shared liability should the worst happen.

I appreciate they don' have the authority to hold someone but I would have at least reported it to the Police personally.

When I was a bartender I would take keys away from someone who wanted to drive home drunk. If they refused I reported them. A drunk driver off the road today is a life saved tomorrow.

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Liquid Knight said:
Blown2CV said:
ferrariF50lover said:
This takes place on the Yorks side of Greater Manchester, you'll see why that's important in a bit.

Came out this morning to a flat tyre. No worries, I'll swap it for the space saver.

Knob event 1 - some arse has gunned up the wheel nuts to a brazillian lb/ft, so no amount of effort will get them off.

It's ok, there's a Halfords Autocentre just down the road, I'll limp the car there and bung the guy a tenner to swap the wheels for me. Saves me getting wet and the awkward nut issue.

Arrive at Halfords, in the waiting area is a woman. Worker asks how he can help me. I explain and he says, "ah, you and this lady both have the same 'stuck nuts' problem". I chuckle.

Knob event 2 then follows - second worker says to the woman, "I'm afraid your tyres are all down to the cords".
Her answer? "What does that mean?"

Knob event 3 - having had it explained to her that they're A) dangerous and B) illegal, she decides to drive off on them anyway... To WALES!

In short, you're a knob if you over-tighten wheel nuts, drive a car without understanding even the most fundamental, sadety-critical components and/or then choose to put at risk yourselves and everyone around you to save £150 or so. If you can't afford a car, take the bus.
if Halfords were ISO9001 then they wouldn't be allowed to let the customer leave in an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle. Technically therefore bad practice to have done so.
Bringing me back to my Manslaughter comment about over tight wheel bolts failing later down the road. Letting someone go in a dangerous vehicle should mean shared liability should the worst happen.

I appreciate they don' have the authority to hold someone but I would have at least reported it to the Police personally.

When I was a bartender I would take keys away from someone who wanted to drive home drunk. If they refused I reported them. A drunk driver off the road today is a life saved tomorrow.
it doesn't matter whether the person stays there, only the car. They dealer can refuse to return the keys.

rambo19

2,753 posts

139 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
if Halfords were ISO9001 then they wouldn't be allowed to let the customer leave in an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle. Technically therefore bad practice to have done so.
What powers do they have to stop the customer leaving in the car?

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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rambo19 said:
Blown2CV said:
if Halfords were ISO9001 then they wouldn't be allowed to let the customer leave in an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle. Technically therefore bad practice to have done so.
What powers do they have to stop the customer leaving in the car?
What powers does a customer have to force them to return the keys?

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
rambo19 said:
Blown2CV said:
if Halfords were ISO9001 then they wouldn't be allowed to let the customer leave in an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle. Technically therefore bad practice to have done so.
What powers do they have to stop the customer leaving in the car?
What powers does a customer have to force them to return the keys?
I guess they could try to report it stolen but if the Police turned up all they would have to do is show the officer/s the condition of the tyres and that would be the end of that so far as their liability is concerned.

SimianWonder

1,144 posts

154 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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As long as there's no outstanding bill, a garage has no right whatsoever to refuse to return a customer's property to them.

If a customer wishes to take the vehicle with cords hanging out of the tyres they can do so. The garage can warn them about it, stress the danger posed (in the case of tyres, the possible financial risk of 3 points and two and half grand fine per corner seems to worry some drivers more than the potentially fatal accident awaiting them), get them to sign a disclaimer, but they have no legal power to stop the owner taking their keys and driving it off.



Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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SimianWonder said:
As long as there's no outstanding bill, a garage has no right whatsoever to refuse to return a customer's property to them.

If a customer wishes to take the vehicle with cords hanging out of the tyres they can do so. The garage can warn them about it, stress the danger posed (in the case of tyres, the possible financial risk of 3 points and two and half grand fine per corner seems to worry some drivers more than the potentially fatal accident awaiting them), get them to sign a disclaimer, but they have no legal power to stop the owner taking their keys and driving it off.
i didn't say they had legal power, i said it was stated in ISO quality systems, or was 15 years ago at least... It's a moot point because as someone else said even though the dealer has no legal right to withhold the keys, the owner has no legal right to drive an unsafe car. The latter could result in death or serious injury, whereas the former definitely would not. The law would come down on the side of the garage, especially as when the police inevitably arrive they'd just hand the keys to them and let them deal with it.

Cold

15,305 posts

92 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Sounds like some are advocating a potentially profitable sales technique. But then, we all know that tyre and exhaust shops are the epitome of fair practice.

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Cold said:
Sounds like some are advocating a potentially profitable sales technique. But then, we all know that tyre and exhaust shops are the epitome of fair practice.
Definitely not intended as a sales tactic. They wouldn't have any grounds to refuse a low loader coming to take the car away, if the argument was on roadworthiness.
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