RE: 2022 Lotus Emira officially revealed
Discussion
braddo said:
Throttlebody said:
Sure, if your happy with your personal and introspective approach to a car discussion.
Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
You are projecting your interest in the financing discussion onto others. Give it a rest.Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
braddo said:
Throttlebody said:
Sure, if your happy with your personal and introspective approach to a car discussion.
Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
You are projecting your interest in the financing discussion onto others. Give it a rest.Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
av185 said:
Be interesting to know how many are actually interested in buying the Emira because of the car itself or because of the likely premiums ££ and excellent residuals i.e. low overall running costs which clearly makes owning one more attractive.
In complete contrast to e.g. new Mclarens.
Yes, It’s going to be significant for many now holding a deposit. In complete contrast to e.g. new Mclarens.
Recent attainable cars such as the Yaris GR, previously the Focus RS etc were flooding the used market at overs on release where it was clear to see buyers were only ever interested in premiums over list - not handling and 0-60.
SidewaysSi said:
braddo said:
Throttlebody said:
Sure, if your happy with your personal and introspective approach to a car discussion.
Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
You are projecting your interest in the financing discussion onto others. Give it a rest.Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
That said, its a tightrope as to whether too many cars produced negatively impact subsequent residuals.
You could argue that I couldn't afford it if I cannot suffer the loss of 100% of the cars value, but to my mind one of the big plus points of previous Lotus has been low depreciation and very reasonable running costs. As a pure indulgence that might only do a few hundred miles a month I can justify itself more than something that was costing me 4 figures a month to sit unused.
Throttlebody said:
Northernboy said:
Throttlebody said:
Strange view.
Cost to own, finance and residuals are as important as colour choice.
Well, to you, if you say so, but definitely not to everyone.Cost to own, finance and residuals are as important as colour choice.
And that’s nothing to do with how much money someone has either. If I am discussing how a car drives, or looks, or about design philosophy, or choice of materials, the question of how some random on the web chooses to account for their purchase just doesn’t come into it.
People banging on about residuals just sucks the joy out of any discussion of a car.
It gets even worse when someone decides to start in on benefit-in-kind numbers.
Fortunately, other people have a more broad view on the acquisition, ownership and life time cost to own or finance. It’s a large factor. It’s not a free product.
Throttlebody said:
av185 said:
Be interesting to know how many are actually interested in buying the Emira because of the car itself or because of the likely premiums ££ and excellent residuals i.e. low overall running costs which clearly makes owning one more attractive.
In complete contrast to e.g. new Mclarens.
Yes, It’s going to be significant for many now holding a deposit. In complete contrast to e.g. new Mclarens.
Recent attainable cars such as the Yaris GR, previously the Focus RS etc were flooding the used market at overs on release where it was clear to see buyers were only ever interested in premiums over list - not handling and 0-60.
The Emira won't fit this category of course but as previously posted residuals should be very strong along with first initial premiums even more so should Lotus succeed in retaining exclusivity and brand image despite the likely relatively high manufacturing numbers of c4k units for the UK over the cars production run.
I can afford pretty much any car on sale. When you buy Combine harvesters or aircraft the price of cars looks fairly trivial. Boats make cars look like disposable white goods.
However, I am interested in residual value. A car only costs you what is loses in value + insurance + servicing. It won't be an expensive thing to insure and if the Evora is a guide it won't cost unusual amounts to service. Buying a >£60,000 toy is somewhat selfish and deprives my family of money I could spend on them, therefore, my enjoyment of it does depend to a degree on the thing not haemorrhaging money.
I'd hate to spaff a hundred grand on McLaren depreciation no matter how well it drove around a track. This is why Porsche easily sells its GT products. Rich people hate wasting money.
However, I am interested in residual value. A car only costs you what is loses in value + insurance + servicing. It won't be an expensive thing to insure and if the Evora is a guide it won't cost unusual amounts to service. Buying a >£60,000 toy is somewhat selfish and deprives my family of money I could spend on them, therefore, my enjoyment of it does depend to a degree on the thing not haemorrhaging money.
I'd hate to spaff a hundred grand on McLaren depreciation no matter how well it drove around a track. This is why Porsche easily sells its GT products. Rich people hate wasting money.
swisstoni said:
That seems like an odd thing for an incredibly rich person to worry about,
I remember when the German discount supermarkets first opened in the UK. Their car parks were interestingly polarised between bangers and flash. Poor people and rich, tight people. I would not assume that someone who is rich doesn’t understand the value of money, particularly if they earned it. Northernboy said:
Honeywell said:
I can afford pretty much any car on sale. When you buy Combine harvesters or aircraft the price of cars looks fairly trivial. Boats make cars look like disposable white goods.
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I really hope that you regret posting that..
If not, you have issues.
CaptainSensib1e said:
Northernboy said:
Honeywell said:
I can afford pretty much any car on sale. When you buy Combine harvesters or aircraft the price of cars looks fairly trivial. Boats make cars look like disposable white goods.
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I really hope that you regret posting that..
If not, you have issues.
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