Whats the most annoying thing about your car?
Discussion
Setting the joys of Christmas aside for a mo.....
2019 Vauxhall Corsa - a Loan car for a week:
Quite simply the worst car I have ever driven, build quality awful, steering awful, suspension like rock, rear fold down seats get jammed, goes into speed limiter if you accidentally brush the button in the steering wheel, sat nav in a position where the steering wheel/left hand is in the way, seats terrible.
I would far sooner have risked getting the old 1999 Clio out of its moss covered grave at the end of the garden and illegally back on the road it was a great ride in comparison.
2019 Vauxhall Corsa - a Loan car for a week:
Quite simply the worst car I have ever driven, build quality awful, steering awful, suspension like rock, rear fold down seats get jammed, goes into speed limiter if you accidentally brush the button in the steering wheel, sat nav in a position where the steering wheel/left hand is in the way, seats terrible.
I would far sooner have risked getting the old 1999 Clio out of its moss covered grave at the end of the garden and illegally back on the road it was a great ride in comparison.
ericmcn said:
Any auto Start s
t I am against tbh, the answer is no. Do all modern cars have auto Start as standard? It's a farce and totally ruins whatever is left of driver engagement with the car itself. I had a hire car in 2010 in Scotland, I remember it well as I just graduated and a company paid for a flight from Ireland to Edinburgh for a job and I was shocked with the heap of st of a car I had for a hire, a Daewoo I think with stop Start.. Just no.
I'll get a LS460 next that doesn't have stop Start st
So, turn it off? t I am against tbh, the answer is no. Do all modern cars have auto Start as standard? It's a farce and totally ruins whatever is left of driver engagement with the car itself. I had a hire car in 2010 in Scotland, I remember it well as I just graduated and a company paid for a flight from Ireland to Edinburgh for a job and I was shocked with the heap of st of a car I had for a hire, a Daewoo I think with stop Start.. Just no.I'll get a LS460 next that doesn't have stop Start s
tTasmin200 said:
Celica 190. It has 'lift' where a second cam profile comes in at 6200 rev. Yes it's fun but it's bloody impossible to use it properly even on a spirited drive. The engine could take the secondary cam profile much earlier maybe 5-5500 rev and it would be great. As it is, I find it a right pain in the arse and spoils a decent idea and engine.
I fitted a Celica 190 engine to my MR2 roadster. A Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) ECU has a lower lift point (5500 ish) and a higher rev limit (8300 ish) which makes the thing an absolute joy. 
67Dino said:
Newc said:
Mrs Newc has a new Lexus RX. She is a bingbing serial Lexus buyer so didn't bingbing do much diligence on this one bingbing other than to make sure it had an engine bingbing and wheels. In particular, one thing she didn't bingbing check was to see if the mildly annoying speed camera warning present on bingbing the test drive could be switched off.
As it escalated from bingbing mildly annoying to screamingly infuriating she in parallel went all the bingbing way up the chain to the factory to be told that no it is a customer convenience for it to be permanently on. But props to Lexus for coding in bingbing every motorway gantry camera, temporary camera, traffic light camera, passport photo booth, and cameras which are no longer there.
bingbing.
As it escalated from bingbing mildly annoying to screamingly infuriating she in parallel went all the bingbing way up the chain to the factory to be told that no it is a customer convenience for it to be permanently on. But props to Lexus for coding in bingbing every motorway gantry camera, temporary camera, traffic light camera, passport photo booth, and cameras which are no longer there.
bingbing.
My Megane has a similar system. Most of the time it's great with just timely reminders for fixed speed cameras.
However on certain sections of road it goes absolutely nuts with a different beeping which I think is for potential locations of mobile speed traps. Part of the M4 between Newbury and Swindon is one IIRC. Basically impossible to listen to the radio as it is constantly dipping the volume to sound the alert every 10 seconds.
Golf 7.5r.
If I put the car into 'race' mode after a restart it's not quite into race mode. The exhaust burbles etc aren't apparent.It's a manual so doesn't have the upshift pops and bangs, but it does benefit from a subdued burble on the overrun at about 2-300rpm in full fat race mode. Individual mode doesn't do it either.
The slightly nagging feeling that it's going to get nicked blown up due to public perception. Insurance isn't massive (£400pa) which I guess tells the real story, but even so..
The slightly underdamped front suspension which lets it crash out on bumps. It's getting non coilover Bilsteins in the New Year. (Or being replaced by a younger Boxster S than it's predecessor).
If I put the car into 'race' mode after a restart it's not quite into race mode. The exhaust burbles etc aren't apparent.It's a manual so doesn't have the upshift pops and bangs, but it does benefit from a subdued burble on the overrun at about 2-300rpm in full fat race mode. Individual mode doesn't do it either.
The slightly nagging feeling that it's going to get nicked blown up due to public perception. Insurance isn't massive (£400pa) which I guess tells the real story, but even so..
The slightly underdamped front suspension which lets it crash out on bumps. It's getting non coilover Bilsteins in the New Year. (Or being replaced by a younger Boxster S than it's predecessor).
ericmcn said:
carlove said:
He means when the car auto-stops, if you open the door the engine starts again, presumably so you don't park up and get out the car while the engine has auto-stopped thinking you've switched it off. My Astra's engine starts up again if I open the door while it's in auto-stop, the engine doesn't come on if I just open the door randomly.
Any auto Start st I am against tbh, the answer is no. Do all modern cars have auto Start as standard? It's a farce and totally ruins whatever is left of driver engagement with the car itself. I had a hire car in 2010 in Scotland, I remember it well as I just graduated and a company paid for a flight from Ireland to Edinburgh for a job and I was shocked with the heap of st of a car I had for a hire, a Daewoo I think with stop Start.. Just no.I'll get a LS460 next that doesn't have stop Start s
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RobM77 said:
Pica-Pica said:
RobM77 said:
I love my daily driver, but the indicators drive me potty - if you move the steering wheel a tiny bit after indicating, they cancel. This might not sound like a big deal until you actually try and use them... For example, imagine you're turning right at a roundabout up ahead. On approach to the roundabout you check your mirror, indicate, slow, then move to the right hand side of the road ready to take the right hand lane on roundabout entry, and as soon as you move right, the indicators cancel. So you turn them on again, but then most roundabouts have an entry road that sweeps left, and as soon as you sweep left, the indicators cancel again. When you enter the roundabout you try to keep the steering angle the same so the indicators stay on, but then obviously you have to starting turning to the right to go around it, and when you do so, the indicators cancel again, so you turn them on again. When you pass the middle of the exit before the one you want, you indicate left, but then as soon as you start moving the wheel to leave, the indicators cancel, so you turn them on again. In one simple roundabout lasting 20 seconds you might have to push the indicator stalk 4 or 5 times, often when your hands aren't by the stalks because you're busy steering. 
The only situation where the indicators work properly is motorway lane changes, because the steering wheel movement required is too small to trigger the self-cancellation. Last week I was in my wife's Honda CTR and it was such a relief to be able to switch on an indicator and then forget about it until you'd finished whatever required it in the first place.
BMW F30? I tried to get them to increase the angle at which it cancelled, but dealer could not/would not. It cancels after a quarter turn of wheel, which is crazy, that amount is just a minor correction - as you say. A half or three-quarter turn would be better. However, I do like the fact that the stalk returns to central position when activated, and that it can be cancelled by a light touch in either direction. That is very practical - once you are used to it. The only situation where the indicators work properly is motorway lane changes, because the steering wheel movement required is too small to trigger the self-cancellation. Last week I was in my wife's Honda CTR and it was such a relief to be able to switch on an indicator and then forget about it until you'd finished whatever required it in the first place.I had two E90s before the F10 and with that you could repeatedly stab the indicator with one hand to keep it on whilst you steering with the other. That tactic doesn't work in the F10 though, you have to re-activate them only after they cancel, otherwise it thinks you're switching them off and waits a threshold period of time before accepting your switch-on request.
I’m convinced this system is at least partly responsible for the BMW driver indicator jokes.
My M140i, and my 2 previous F30s used to suffer really badly from this. It wasn’t uncommon to have to put indicators back on several times during a manoeuvre, but just to keep me on my toes, the M140i would sometimes do the complete opposite and refuse to self cancel at all. Then in anger, I’d belt the stalk too hard, miss the central point, and instead of cancelling, I’d end up indicating the other way for 3 flashes (or whatever number was configured in the iDrive).
It’s a daft, over complex setup that is completely unnecessary, and doesn’t work properly.
ericmcn said:
Sorry, hello what. Why would you want to restart a car from opening a door, totally retarded. So how does your car know it's you who opened the door or the scrote who cloned your key oblivious to you.
Very clever you might think.. unnecessary st in my opinion.
And happy Christmas, if your car is still there....
Yes sorry quoted a guy with a 4 series who’s locked the car and walked away and came back to it running because he hasn’t turned off the button with auto stop startVery clever you might think.. unnecessary s
t in my opinion.And happy Christmas, if your car is still there....
My cars both re start the engine if auto stop start has cut in when you come to a stop
Newc said:
Mrs Newc has a new Lexus RX. She is a bingbing serial Lexus buyer so didn't bingbing do much diligence on this one bingbing other than to make sure it had an engine bingbing and wheels. In particular, one thing she didn't bingbing check was to see if the mildly annoying speed camera warning present on bingbing the test drive could be switched off.
As it escalated from bingbing mildly annoying to screamingly infuriating she in parallel went all the bingbing way up the chain to the factory to be told that no it is a customer convenience for it to be permanently on. But props to Lexus for coding in bingbing every motorway gantry camera, temporary camera, traffic light camera, passport photo booth, and cameras which are no longer there.
bingbing.
If it’s anything like the NX, the camera ‘bing bing’ is controlled by the sat nav voice volume. Turn that down and you can pretty much eliminate the bingsAs it escalated from bingbing mildly annoying to screamingly infuriating she in parallel went all the bingbing way up the chain to the factory to be told that no it is a customer convenience for it to be permanently on. But props to Lexus for coding in bingbing every motorway gantry camera, temporary camera, traffic light camera, passport photo booth, and cameras which are no longer there.
bingbing.
Fastdruid said:
Muzzer79 said:
2017 BMW 5 series
I have to select the driving mode I want EVERY time I start it up. Why can’t it remember the last setting?
Because of emissions testing. They have to default to the best economy setting because the testers aren't allowed to "press buttons". Hence everything defaults to economy mode and you cannot disable the mode. I have to select the driving mode I want EVERY time I start it up. Why can’t it remember the last setting?
If I have it in ECO mode, it defaults back to Comfort every time...
Jaguar XKR. If the windscreen wipers operate while the driver's window is down I get a load of water/screenwash in my lap. Generally I don't have the window down when the wipers are likely to operate but if I start the car before closing the door and there's water on the screen then the auto-wipers function sometimes catches me out. Equally if it's dry but the screen is dirty and I forget to close the window before hitting the screenwash button then the same result occurs.
Golf Mk5 TDI-170...I've had the thing for over 3 years now and still don't like reverse being next to first on the gearchange.
On my own there is normally no problem, but of course when occassionally carrying my (mostly VW adoring) mates about I will at some point make a total hash of trying to move in the correct direction while parking as they sit there sniggering to themselves...
I have considering returning to Alfa for a proper/normal gearchange (would be my 12th) but my last GT really was an offputting heap and the garage I use for heavy stuff has said he'd rather I didn't bring another one in!
On my own there is normally no problem, but of course when occassionally carrying my (mostly VW adoring) mates about I will at some point make a total hash of trying to move in the correct direction while parking as they sit there sniggering to themselves...
I have considering returning to Alfa for a proper/normal gearchange (would be my 12th) but my last GT really was an offputting heap and the garage I use for heavy stuff has said he'd rather I didn't bring another one in!
Does it count if its something I inflicted upon myself rather than being the cars fault?
Nissan Skyline R34 GTT - I had BC Racing BR coilovers fitted to replace the coilovers that were on the car from Japan, but they are just so bloody harsh even on the softest damping setting! A typical badly patched road has it feeling like its bouncing all over the place.
I just cant justify the money upgrading to something else when it could be used on new seats, ECU, turbo, and so on
Nissan Skyline R34 GTT - I had BC Racing BR coilovers fitted to replace the coilovers that were on the car from Japan, but they are just so bloody harsh even on the softest damping setting! A typical badly patched road has it feeling like its bouncing all over the place.
I just cant justify the money upgrading to something else when it could be used on new seats, ECU, turbo, and so on
S90 - The fact that the sensus infotainment system randomly sts itself in a different way about once a month.
1) Sat nav just stopped working.
Turning the car off, locking, unlocking and starting again and it was fine.
2) Whole system went blackscreen with ahite horizontal lines and stopped working
Turning the car off, locking, unlocking and starting again and it was fine.
3) Radio went berserk and just started humming and clicking - similar to if you weren't quite tuned in to a Hardocre House station on medium wave.
Turning the car off, locking, unlocking and starting again and it was fine.
Looking forward to January's random wobble.
( does this deserve an SPL Thread - Can I reject car?
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ts itself in a different way about once a month.1) Sat nav just stopped working.
Turning the car off, locking, unlocking and starting again and it was fine.
2) Whole system went blackscreen with ahite horizontal lines and stopped working
Turning the car off, locking, unlocking and starting again and it was fine.
3) Radio went berserk and just started humming and clicking - similar to if you weren't quite tuned in to a Hardocre House station on medium wave.
Turning the car off, locking, unlocking and starting again and it was fine.
Looking forward to January's random wobble.
( does this deserve an SPL Thread - Can I reject car?
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