The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3
Discussion
LM95 said:
fatjon said:
I know that roundabout well. It's one of those where the locals know that you don't go straight on from the left lane but the road markings say otherwise. Either way the black car was in a lane marked M1S which is 4 junctions to the right and he was trying to go left to M1N. On balance black car driver got it wrong white car driver was inexperienced and should have seen that coming.
I agree with you but feel you are a little harsh on the white car driver there. Regardless if it is one of the local unwritten rules or not there is no way that the white car, whether they know the area or not, can be blamed for following the markings on the road. I would be annoyed if it were me in the black car but I would also be in the wrong and expect the insurers to see that too. Edited by LM95 on Thursday 18th May 14:10
White car going to Rotherham, correctly gets in left hand lane on approach to the roundabout, then goes straight on to Rotherham (unavoidably crossing some white lines, but as his lane was the only one going M1N & Rotherham, nobody could be turning left across his path, he thinks), all as per roadmarkings: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sheffield+Rd,+...
Black car gets in lane 2, but realises he needs M1N. No problem thinks he, lane 2 lets you go left without crossing any markings, to exit in lane 2 of the on slip road: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sheffield+Rd,+...
Crunch.
Whole thing needs repainting, if it hasn't been already since the Google camera car went by.
DHE said:
Have we had this one yet? Needs to be watched to the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmXxLnaNlY
Plenty of worse drivers on this thread...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmXxLnaNlY
MWM3 said:
Actual said:
There are 3 lanes into the roundabout
There are 3 lanes on the roundabout
The white car approaches in a lane with a left turn arrow and a straight ahead arrow
The black car approaches in a lane with only a straight ahead arrow
Black car at fault (or I may be wrong)
You are correct.There are 3 lanes on the roundabout
The white car approaches in a lane with a left turn arrow and a straight ahead arrow
The black car approaches in a lane with only a straight ahead arrow
Black car at fault (or I may be wrong)
Jimmy above must be blind. White car can go left or straight on, black car straight on only.
Black car in wrong lane.
White car in correct lane.
100% fault black car.
Nothing wrong with design of roundabout.
VGTICE said:
Actual said:
Could change your nickname to ActualMLM please.AndyDubbya said:
Road markings are at fault, combined with lack of situational awareness by both cars.
White car going to Rotherham, correctly gets in left hand lane on approach to the roundabout, then goes straight on to Rotherham (unavoidably crossing some white lines, but as his lane was the only one going M1N & Rotherham, nobody could be turning left across his path, he thinks), all as per roadmarkings: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sheffield+Rd,+...
Black car gets in lane 2, but realises he needs M1N. No problem thinks he, lane 2 lets you go left without crossing any markings, to exit in lane 2 of the on slip road: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sheffield+Rd,+...
Crunch.
Whole thing needs repainting, if it hasn't been already since the Google camera car went by.
This is what I needed, the google street view. I don't know the roundabout.White car going to Rotherham, correctly gets in left hand lane on approach to the roundabout, then goes straight on to Rotherham (unavoidably crossing some white lines, but as his lane was the only one going M1N & Rotherham, nobody could be turning left across his path, he thinks), all as per roadmarkings: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sheffield+Rd,+...
Black car gets in lane 2, but realises he needs M1N. No problem thinks he, lane 2 lets you go left without crossing any markings, to exit in lane 2 of the on slip road: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sheffield+Rd,+...
Crunch.
Whole thing needs repainting, if it hasn't been already since the Google camera car went by.
Basically the google street view car pretty much reinforces what I said. Following up sheffield road, lane 1 splits in 2, as it does so all 3 lanes have arrows pointing ahead. M1(N) M1(S) and M1(S). moot point, if M1 southbound is effectively turning right why does te arrow point straight ahead? What I put in my OP. Now as you pull on to the roundabout, shift the view right (like you're going the wrong way for 10 metres) and turn around and view the location of the collision from before the junction the 2 cars entered the roundabout. You clearly see lane markings for lane 1 turning left to M1 (North) lane 2 as you enter the roundabout has a split lane, the nearside markings clearly go left, the offside lane markings CLEARLY show lane 2 can also turn left, occupying the outside lane towards M1 (N)!! At the point of collision the lane occupied by the audi splits in to 3 lanes, either left for M1 or ahead on the roundabout which is also 3 lanes wide.
As for the arrows, the ahead arrows first appear when the approach is 2 lanes, when it splits in to 3 lanes ALL 3 LANE ARROWS INDICATE AHEAD.
Now compare what you see on googles street view car to google earth images from above. The right hand lane shows the arrow pointing to the right, not ahead; the 2 images are a before and after shot of the junction. The arrows have been repainted, as have the lane markings. Now head back to street view, and follow the lorry under the bridge, rotate the view and look behind you. Lane 2 entering the roundabout clearly splits in to 3 options, according to both the arrows and lane markings, the cars in lane 2 can legitimately turn left.
But flick between street view and satellite, and then street view 2008 (options to view earlier imaging is top left of the screen). According to 2008 view, lane 1 is left AND ahead, lane 2 ahead only and lane 3 turns right. The lane markings clearly show this arrangement, the lane markings have been repainted in the 2016 view.
I agree the road markings for the left hand lane in the latest view are a little confusing, but take that one erroneous marking out, all the other markings on the road simply support what I've said all along.
Wiccan of Darkness said:
stuff
Having driven through that junction numerous times I can tell you you're telling bks, you cannot turn left onto the lower deck of the Tinsley viaduct from the middle lane of that junction unless you want to cut across traffic in the left-hand lane.You are a troll or the black Audi driver AICMFP.
Blakewater said:
It's not really an issue if there is no one behind to inconvenience. Maybe it's a lesson learned in maximising his view around the corner and avoiding dimwits who can't tell the difference between the centre line and the edge of the road but he's shortening his distance round the bend and staying out to pass the blue car ahead. If he's not holding up someone who wants to pass him, criticising him for hogging the lane is taking the issue of lane hogging to a bit of an obsession.
It is an issue, an issue that kills the flow of traffic because most fkers go by what they think is right rather than doing the right thing and following the highway code (which says keep left when not overtaking, NOT keep left if you think you will inconvenience others). Vipers said:
budgie smuggler said:
jke11y said:
WCZ said:
Your Dad said:
Speeding motorcyclist takes issue with car for not indicating, so risks life arguing on hard shoulder because he's a DCW.
https://youtu.be/cB7KnHClwfw
what an absolute prickhttps://youtu.be/cB7KnHClwfw
Couple of clips.
Private hire car deciding red lights are optional:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5hZNgZKj_s
London Heathrow shuttle turning right from the LH lane (they do this route day in, day out!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKAKf06SHAY
I didn't quite get this one right. The woman in the Micra was on her phone at the last set of lights too. She was plainly on her phone here too. When i pulled up behind her she was texting, and when the light went green and I honked, she just flicked her hazards on and finished her text. By the time it was safe for me to reverse and overtake she'd finished texting and was on her way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCX54Xnns4
This gap looked a lot smaller in person and at a closing speed of 40mph (the speed limit) [PROFANITY WARNING]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V3IzWwagI
Little funny clip - nice old man walking along in his own little world. No horns, no aggression, a wave of apology, and both of us sharing a little chuckle at the non-incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydNlimmPDQ
(edit for spelling)
Private hire car deciding red lights are optional:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5hZNgZKj_s
London Heathrow shuttle turning right from the LH lane (they do this route day in, day out!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKAKf06SHAY
I didn't quite get this one right. The woman in the Micra was on her phone at the last set of lights too. She was plainly on her phone here too. When i pulled up behind her she was texting, and when the light went green and I honked, she just flicked her hazards on and finished her text. By the time it was safe for me to reverse and overtake she'd finished texting and was on her way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCX54Xnns4
This gap looked a lot smaller in person and at a closing speed of 40mph (the speed limit) [PROFANITY WARNING]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V3IzWwagI
Little funny clip - nice old man walking along in his own little world. No horns, no aggression, a wave of apology, and both of us sharing a little chuckle at the non-incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydNlimmPDQ
(edit for spelling)
Edited by Second Best on Thursday 18th May 22:52
Your Dad said:
Wiccan of Darkness said:
stuff
Having driven through that junction numerous times I can tell you you're telling bks, you cannot turn left onto the lower deck of the Tinsley viaduct from the middle lane of that junction unless you want to cut across traffic in the left-hand lane.You are a troll or the black Audi driver AICMFP.
In the meantime, viewing the google streetview the google car is following a lorry with blue and white stripes and HZ on the back. Get halfway through, the street car is in the right hand lane on roundabout. Look at the lane markings, lane 1 centre line markings, lane 2 centre line on nearside, hazard line markings on the offside. Look behind the google car and view approach from lane 2, that lane splits in to 3, there's no markings on the nearside approaching the left turn, showing quite clearly the audi was perfectly legally correct in branching left and continuing up the Tinsley viaduct in the right hand lane. It's a 2 lane road. There's no lane to cut across.
Honestly, if you don't know the difference between centre line markings and hazard line markings then get off the road.
In the meantime, either add something constructive or yell at a tree.
Your Dad said:
Wiccan of Darkness said:
stuff
Having driven through that junction numerous times I can tell you you're telling bks, you cannot turn left onto the lower deck of the Tinsley viaduct from the middle lane of that junction unless you want to cut across traffic in the left-hand lane.You are a troll or the black Audi driver AICMFP.
ashleyman said:
Polo jumps a red light - https://youtu.be/QzQH6c0cEfY
What was the outcome of the woman who hit your parked car and drove off?Alucidnation said:
Your Dad said:
Wiccan of Darkness said:
stuff
Having driven through that junction numerous times I can tell you you're telling bks, you cannot turn left onto the lower deck of the Tinsley viaduct from the middle lane of that junction unless you want to cut across traffic in the left-hand lane.You are a troll or the black Audi driver AICMFP.
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1...
imdeman87 said:
ashleyman said:
Polo jumps a red light - https://youtu.be/QzQH6c0cEfY
What was the outcome of the woman who hit your parked car and drove off?I asked if they were planning to prosecute her but they said they needed to collect everything and then someone more senior would decide what to do.
I managed to get a new number plate, plate holder and clips and put it all back together. The front bumper is scuffed but I'm waiting to hear what they do before I get that sorted as she needs to pay for it.
Alucidnation said:
Your Dad said:
Wiccan of Darkness said:
stuff
Having driven through that junction numerous times I can tell you you're telling bks, you cannot turn left onto the lower deck of the Tinsley viaduct from the middle lane of that junction unless you want to cut across traffic in the left-hand lane.You are a troll or the black Audi driver AICMFP.
Black car was misled by lane markings on roundabout, which are misleading at best, criminally inadequate at worst.
The lines are brilliantly placed to ensure conflict and crashes.
Edited by Cliftonite on Friday 19th May 00:59
xjay1337 said:
It was probably funnier the first twenty or so times it's was posted.xjay1337 said:
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