Two Knobs - Ferrari vs Porsche
Discussion
cb1965 said:
Yes, they've gone remarkably quiet haven't they? Shame they couldn't at least have the decency to say they were wrong, but I expect they're busy at their Combat 18 meetings or the likes!
A bit off topic but I'm genuinely surprised at your disdain towards racism when your views towards cyclists are well known on here. According to Dr Ian Walker, a psychologist at Bath Uni, you may have a lot more in common with those people than you think."What you see in discourses about cycling is the absolute classic 1960s and 1970s social psychology of prejudice,” he explains. “It’s exactly those things that used to be done about minority ethnic groups and so on – the overgeneralisation of negative traits, under-representation of negative behaviours by one’s own group, that kind of thing. It’s just textbook prejudiced behaviour."
80sMatchbox said:
A bit off topic but I'm genuinely surprised at your disdain towards racism when your views towards cyclists are well known on here. According to Dr Ian Walker, a psychologist at Bath Uni, you may have a lot more in common with those people than you think.
"What you see in discourses about cycling is the absolute classic 1960s and 1970s social psychology of prejudice,” he explains. “It’s exactly those things that used to be done about minority ethnic groups and so on – the overgeneralisation of negative traits, under-representation of negative behaviours by one’s own group, that kind of thing. It’s just textbook prejudiced behaviour."
What a load of cobblers."What you see in discourses about cycling is the absolute classic 1960s and 1970s social psychology of prejudice,” he explains. “It’s exactly those things that used to be done about minority ethnic groups and so on – the overgeneralisation of negative traits, under-representation of negative behaviours by one’s own group, that kind of thing. It’s just textbook prejudiced behaviour."
I don`t like BMW`s or their take on the Mini......... Does that make me a repressed racist?
Jim AK said:
What a load of cobblers.
I don`t like BMW`s or their take on the Mini......... Does that make me a repressed racist?
Well, no..because you are talking about cars, not people.I don`t like BMW`s or their take on the Mini......... Does that make me a repressed racist?
But people that make assumptions based on stereo types are not racist either.
Like its not racist to assume that the guy that fell off his horse during a fox hunt was probably a rich white English guy, and the child prodigy piano player was probably chinese..
It might be an incorrect assumption, but it doesn't mean you are racist for considering the possibility.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Well, no..because you are talking about cars, not people.
But people that make assumptions based on stereo types are not racist either.
Like its not racist to assume that the guy that fell off his horse during a fox hunt was probably a rich white English guy, and the child prodigy piano player was probably chinese..
It might be an incorrect assumption, but it doesn't mean you are racist for considering the possibility.
Thanks for the reassurance.But people that make assumptions based on stereo types are not racist either.
Like its not racist to assume that the guy that fell off his horse during a fox hunt was probably a rich white English guy, and the child prodigy piano player was probably chinese..
It might be an incorrect assumption, but it doesn't mean you are racist for considering the possibility.
Bet the Psychologist would find a way to make me racist though!
rallycross said:
No, thats HH1 (if you read the company annual reports carefully you will see his contribution to the grounds and landscaping).
Do we know yet why the drivers ran away from the scene of a RTA? Very odd if you are insured why run away?
I will run the risk of being accused of being a drunkist..maybe they were pissed? Do we know yet why the drivers ran away from the scene of a RTA? Very odd if you are insured why run away?
Shuvi McTupya said:
I will run the risk of being accused of being a drunkist..maybe they were pissed?
Good news they now have a confession! Only took 11 seconds!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgLPLlA6ZBM
Ignoring the usual thread bickering, is it actually true that the original Hartley car business (and other interests) is now owned by Tom Snr & Carl alone?
Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
80sMatchbox said:
cb1965 said:
Yes, they've gone remarkably quiet haven't they? Shame they couldn't at least have the decency to say they were wrong, but I expect they're busy at their Combat 18 meetings or the likes!
A bit off topic but I'm genuinely surprised at your disdain towards racism when your views towards cyclists are well known on here. According to Dr Ian Walker, a psychologist at Bath Uni, you may have a lot more in common with those people than you think."What you see in discourses about cycling is the absolute classic 1960s and 1970s social psychology of prejudice,” he explains. “It’s exactly those things that used to be done about minority ethnic groups and so on – the overgeneralisation of negative traits, under-representation of negative behaviours by one’s own group, that kind of thing. It’s just textbook prejudiced behaviour."
OzzyR1 said:
Ignoring the usual thread bickering, is it actually true that the original Hartley car business (and other interests) is now owned by Tom Snr & Carl alone?
Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
I don't think they necessarily had a big fall-out. The Tom Hartley Cars dealership is a business and THJ would have sold his share so he could take the money and start up on his own.Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
Generally speaking, the TH and THJ brands are quite different. TH sells more run-of-the-mill sports and supercars while THJ deals in very high-end bluechip vehicles e.g. McLaren F1s, Formula One cars and 1960s eight-figure Ferraris.
Made sense for him to go out on his own.
camshafted said:
OzzyR1 said:
Ignoring the usual thread bickering, is it actually true that the original Hartley car business (and other interests) is now owned by Tom Snr & Carl alone?
Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
I don't think they necessarily had a big fall-out. The Tom Hartley Cars dealership is a business and THJ would have sold his share so he could take the money and start up on his own.Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
Generally speaking, the TH and THJ brands are quite different. TH sells more run-of-the-mill sports and supercars while THJ deals in very high-end bluechip vehicles e.g. McLaren F1s, Formula One cars and 1960s eight-figure Ferraris.
Made sense for him to go out on his own.
AlmostUseful said:
camshafted said:
OzzyR1 said:
Ignoring the usual thread bickering, is it actually true that the original Hartley car business (and other interests) is now owned by Tom Snr & Carl alone?
Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
I don't think they necessarily had a big fall-out. The Tom Hartley Cars dealership is a business and THJ would have sold his share so he could take the money and start up on his own.Knew that Tom Jr had set up his own showroom but didn't realise there had been such a big fall-out that he had been cut out of the family business.
Generally speaking, the TH and THJ brands are quite different. TH sells more run-of-the-mill sports and supercars while THJ deals in very high-end bluechip vehicles e.g. McLaren F1s, Formula One cars and 1960s eight-figure Ferraris.
Made sense for him to go out on his own.
DSLiverpool said:
Rift = marketing, self publicists supreme at work here.
I’ve seen them on Twitter , Tom Hartley senior now replies to his own tweets from Tom Hartley Cars .I’m assuming his inability to spell correctly is part of the publicity game as well .
I’ve noticed Carl Hartley has gone mute this week ....
Edited by Buster73 on Thursday 24th May 08:31
Butter Face said:
camshafted said:
start up on his own.
on his own.
Welll.....on his own.
On your family land using your (assumed) family money isn't what I would call 'on his own'.
Edited by Butter Face on Thursday 24th May 08:54
camshafted said:
Butter Face said:
camshafted said:
start up on his own.
on his own.
Welll.....on his own.
On your family land using your (assumed) family money isn't what I would call 'on his own'.
Edited by Butter Face on Thursday 24th May 08:54
Yes he owned 50% of his fathers business by the time he was 16, that is fantastic, but there was a business there before him making money and that has got him where he is.
As I said, family money, but good on him doing his own thing rather than just working for his old man, I think we'd all love the chance to be shifting the motors he does.
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