Double cab pickup tax loophole closing
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The irony of course is that HMRC removed the commercial vehicle status from one of the few vehicle classes on the road which could actually deliver as a commercial vehicle. Carry 1 ton whilst towing 3.5 tons.
As government departments go this is a really quick correction to obviously stupid, poorly thought through decision.
As government departments go this is a really quick correction to obviously stupid, poorly thought through decision.
WonkeyDonkey said:
Snow and Rocks said:
No. You maybe need to get out more.
I get out enough thank you.And there are more who think that the people who need one for their occupation should be punished for taking it home at night, because they won’t be going out for a Sunday drive in it.
Have you ever actually driven one?
I’m pretty sure this place is inhabited by IT professionals who wfh all of the time and lost their ability to avoid tax a few years ago.
dave123456 said:
It’s pretty amazing that there are people on here who think that there is a swathe of the population prepared to drive something that is relatively uncomfortable day to day, struggles to achieve 30mpg and is pretty sluggish to boot, just to exploit a tax loophole.
And there are more who think that the people who need one for their occupation should be punished for taking it home at night, because they won’t be going out for a Sunday drive in it.
Have you ever actually driven one?
I’m pretty sure this place is inhabited by IT professionals who wfh all of the time and lost their ability to avoid tax a few years ago.
Your are right Dave And there are more who think that the people who need one for their occupation should be punished for taking it home at night, because they won’t be going out for a Sunday drive in it.
Have you ever actually driven one?
I’m pretty sure this place is inhabited by IT professionals who wfh all of the time and lost their ability to avoid tax a few years ago.
again I will mention the members of this site . Ranger or a High lux is not a refined performance unless your chopping trees or putting your hand up a cows ass in a field
WonkeyDonkey said:
Isn't that where 95% of the pickups live?
I assume we will never get through to you. I know what suburban living is like. Did it for decades. I know what it’s like seeing a pristine DCPU on a suburban driveway looks like - used to walk part one walking the kids to school which was owned by a personal trainer. So yea, I have seen the stereotype. But then I moved to North Pole North. And instead of the odd one I see lots of them. Had to drive into town yesterday. 18 miles each way. Where I was not exaggerating that I passed 10 or so of them. All dirty. All with a top box. Several towing.
They are used extensively here - ground clearance plus all wheel drive plus lugging capability. Go anywhere shift anything. Banning them - and the tax changes were an effective ban - wouldn’t just have meant have multiple vehicles. They would have meant endless pointless trips. “Just drive your car to site” many idiots said. Great - and when you live on a farm or out of a village and home and work are the same? Or town is 18 miles away?
Your experience in town is not the lived reality in the country. I’m glad government realised that. If only more people did, especially before they vote. “I think it therefore it is true” is how this country got itself into the state it’s in…
JustGetATesla said:
I assume we will never get through to you. I know what suburban living is like. Did it for decades. I know what it’s like seeing a pristine DCPU on a suburban driveway looks like - used to walk part one walking the kids to school which was owned by a personal trainer.
So yea, I have seen the stereotype. But then I moved to North Pole North. And instead of the odd one I see lots of them. Had to drive into town yesterday. 18 miles each way. Where I was not exaggerating that I passed 10 or so of them. All dirty. All with a top box. Several towing.
They are used extensively here - ground clearance plus all wheel drive plus lugging capability. Go anywhere shift anything. Banning them - and the tax changes were an effective ban - wouldn’t just have meant have multiple vehicles. They would have meant endless pointless trips. “Just drive your car to site” many idiots said. Great - and when you live on a farm or out of a village and home and work are the same? Or town is 18 miles away?
Your experience in town is not the lived reality in the country. I’m glad government realised that. If only more people did, especially before they vote. “I think it therefore it is true” is how this country got itself into the state it’s in…
Hear hear. So yea, I have seen the stereotype. But then I moved to North Pole North. And instead of the odd one I see lots of them. Had to drive into town yesterday. 18 miles each way. Where I was not exaggerating that I passed 10 or so of them. All dirty. All with a top box. Several towing.
They are used extensively here - ground clearance plus all wheel drive plus lugging capability. Go anywhere shift anything. Banning them - and the tax changes were an effective ban - wouldn’t just have meant have multiple vehicles. They would have meant endless pointless trips. “Just drive your car to site” many idiots said. Great - and when you live on a farm or out of a village and home and work are the same? Or town is 18 miles away?
Your experience in town is not the lived reality in the country. I’m glad government realised that. If only more people did, especially before they vote. “I think it therefore it is true” is how this country got itself into the state it’s in…
dave123456 said:
Hear hear.
Forgive me if it's too early and I'm not reading this right but...Good news?
The Government has performed a spectacular U-turn over its decision to treat double cab pick-ups as cars for taxation purposes by dropping the policy just seven days after announcing it.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/tax-hi...
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/government-u-turn...
Edited by Zero Fuchs on Tuesday 20th February 08:18
dave123456 said:
Hear hear.
Zero Fuchs said:
Forgive me if it's too early and I'm not reading this right but...
Good news?
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/tax-hi...
Only about 13 hours too late Good news?
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/tax-hi...
Mammasaid said:
dave123456 said:
Hear hear.
Zero Fuchs said:
Forgive me if it's too early and I'm not reading this right but...
Good news?
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/tax-hi...
Only about 13 hours too late Good news?
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/tax-hi...
I guess this is PH though.
Zero Fuchs said:
dave123456 said:
Hear hear.
Forgive me if it's too early and I'm not reading this right but...Good news?
The Government has performed a spectacular U-turn over its decision to treat double cab pick-ups as cars for taxation purposes by dropping the policy just seven days after announcing it.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/tax-hi...
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/government-u-turn...
Edited by Zero Fuchs on Tuesday 20th February 08:18
DonkeyApple said:
I think that what is more likely, given that this was such a tiny thing that wouldn't have gone all the way up the chain, let alone to a minister is that the HMRC made the decision with at best only junior involvement from anyone in govt only for a more senior person in government to subsequently pick up on it and step in. HMRC can somewhat be a law unto itself at times and I doubt many minor changes are signed off by any elected member of govt.
Thanks. This did cross my mind but am never 100% on how much power HMRC has, with respect to its autonomy.I always thought legislative tax changes came from parliament but must be a threshold where some stuff is too small to get embroiled in all the bureaucracy.
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