RE: Lamborghini Urus launched

RE: Lamborghini Urus launched

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Ares

11,000 posts

122 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
PhantomPH said:
Porsche did not dilute their brand with their SUV lines. If Mclaren were to launch a £200k SUV would you jump out of yours in protest? .
Porsche was always a sports car manufacturers and through marketing was able to sell this on SUVs then diesel cars.

Lambo is a supercar builder through and through, can a badge engineered SUV really be called a supercar, maybe if it was bonkers, which the Urus isn't.
You need to move away from the badge engineered rhetoric. It shares a basic platform. That's it. A lot of manufacturers share platforms (RR and BMW did for a while), it doesn't mean the whole car is badge engineered. Time to move on.

Ares

11,000 posts

122 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Thankyou4calling said:
Ares said:
Nothing like as bonkers as pre-german Lambos though. Both can be driven easily, seen out of easily and carry any size of person.[/quote

I was at Lamborghini Birmingham. Fell in love with an Aventador.

6ft 5, powerfully built.

I literally couldn't get in it!
Jeez you must be very 'powerfully built'. My 6'6 20 stone downright fat bd best mate got in it and drove it easily.

Thankyou4calling

10,647 posts

175 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Ares said:
Jeez you must be very 'powerfully built'. My 6'6 20 stone downright fat bd best mate got in it and drove it easily.
I'm surprised as I genuinely couldn't get in the seat, this was the coupe not conv.

E65Ross

35,227 posts

214 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Lord Marylebone said:
You picked up on the one part of my post that was supposed to be a joke. The whole CHR 'if you are squinting' thing.

The rest of my post wasn't a joke: It's a 2018 VW Touareg with a Porsche engine and VW/Porsche running gear.
Judging by your post, one would expect this car to drive EXACTLY like a Toureg/Cayenne cross.

That must mean it shares the exact same suspension set up, exact same brakes, exact same engine calibration, the same wheels and everything else as those other cars. It must even have the exact same interior too!

I think people get confused and think platform sharing means "exact same with a different looking body"

A Rolls Royce Ghost, for example, is not just a BMW 7 series!

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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E65Ross said:


I think people get confused and think platform sharing means "exact same with a different looking body"

A Rolls Royce Ghost, for example, is not just a BMW 7 series!
Platform sharing has been around for ages. The urus has the audi engine, so will have the Audi transmission and other gubbins. interior will be bespoke, brakes on higher end are bespoke as well, and there are using carbon polmer body so bespoke too, but the rest will be audi/toureg/q8 (the toureg is being built on same platform MLBevo)

The punters won't care as the set up will be geared towards the 'lambo experience', and this is tried and tested with porsche SUVs.



Ares

11,000 posts

122 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
E65Ross said:


I think people get confused and think platform sharing means "exact same with a different looking body"

A Rolls Royce Ghost, for example, is not just a BMW 7 series!
Platform sharing has been around for ages. The urus has the audi engine, so will have the Audi transmission and other gubbins. interior will be bespoke, brakes on higher end are bespoke as well, and there are using carbon polmer body so bespoke too, but the rest will be audi/toureg/q8 (the toureg is being built on same platform MLBevo)

The punters won't care as the set up will be geared towards the 'lambo experience', and this is tried and tested with porsche SUVs.
It has an Audi based engine, it has been retuned for this. (and regardless, it's a bloody great engine, why wouldn't you use it??)

Again getting back to my BMW/RR comment, the RR had a BMW engine, and a LOT of BMW tech in it. Doesn't detract from the finished article!

suffolk009

5,524 posts

167 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Can we imagine how the internet will reach to the four door saloon in 2019?

It'll be on the VAG 4-door saloon platform and have VAG engines and VAG switches. The interior leather and the bodywork will be Lamborghini. Definately no V12: it'll be V8, and heaven help us maybe even a V6.

HighwayStar

4,385 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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suffolk009 said:
Can we imagine how the internet will reach to the four door saloon in 2019?

It'll be on the VAG 4-door saloon platform and have VAG engines and VAG switches. The interior leather and the bodywork will be Lamborghini. Definately no V12: it'll be V8, and heaven help us maybe even a V6.
Even though Lamborghini have form re a big 4 seater, don’t set them off again!! wink

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
What appealed to me about the idea of the Urus was that when you have a young family you rarely get to use a two seater sports car. A large number of journeys require seating for 4 and some luggage space. Society expects you to give up on cars and fun and buy a Ford CMax or some other bland family transport. This sort of product is a massive FU to that generic belief. It is a supercar that you can use far more often and therefor have far more fun.
Except this has issue has been addressed for years (better and an awful lot cheaper) with an RS4, or if you really need the space an RS6. Doubt anyone sensible will be putting kids in an Urus, they'd have the interior trashed in a couple of weeks. Or if you fancy something leftfield then this is only 2/3rds the price of a Urus, far more practical, 4WD, and if you had it without the stickers, and in a sensible colour, it's an awful lot cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB37QIZfgEI

Thankyou4calling

10,647 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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As you say, nobody is going to be buying a Urus and putting the kids in the back.

They will be bought by playboys, look at me types. They won’t go off road, won’t have tow cars, won’t use isofix.

It’s a Lambo! Look at me look at me.

It’ll be green, yellow orange or Matt grey.

Practicality doesn’t figure.

It’s all about what people think. Not PH people, normal people.


kambites

67,746 posts

223 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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suffolk009 said:
Can we imagine how the internet will reach to the four door saloon in 2019?

It'll be on the VAG 4-door saloon platform and have VAG engines and VAG switches. The interior leather and the bodywork will be Lamborghini. Definately no V12: it'll be V8, and heaven help us maybe even a V6.
It'll be on the same platform as this, as almost every other longitudinal front-engined VAG car has been for some time.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Absolutely ghastly in my opinion

They'll sell like hot cakes

DonkeyApple

56,375 posts

171 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Andy20vt said:
Except this has issue has been addressed for years (better and an awful lot cheaper) with an RS4, or if you really need the space an RS6. Doubt anyone sensible will be putting kids in an Urus, they'd have the interior trashed in a couple of weeks. Or if you fancy something leftfield then this is only 2/3rds the price of a Urus, far more practical, 4WD, and if you had it without the stickers, and in a sensible colour, it's an awful lot cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB37QIZfgEI
Not all young children are oiks. Plenty of children manage to do absolutely no damage and are no issue to put in nice cars.

I’ve always fancied an Italian supercar and seeing as my mild issue with this car is that it seems a bit too German to be Italian I don’t think an Audi estate or a German van are going to tick the right boxes.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 9th December 21:32

briang9

3,342 posts

162 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Not all young children are oiks. Plenty of children manage to do absolutely no damage and are no issue to put in nice cars.

I’ve always fancied an Italian supercar and seeing as my mild issue with this car is that it seems a bit too German to be Italian I don’t think an Audi estate or a German van are going to tick the right boxes.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 9th December 21:32
have you driven an RS6?

suffolk009

5,524 posts

167 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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briang9 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Not all young children are oiks. Plenty of children manage to do absolutely no damage and are no issue to put in nice cars.

I’ve always fancied an Italian supercar and seeing as my mild issue with this car is that it seems a bit too German to be Italian I don’t think an Audi estate or a German van are going to tick the right boxes.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 9th December 21:32
have you driven an RS6?
I haven't, but my wife would like one. I hear they're rocket ship fast, understeer like an oil tanker, and stiff as a brick. That about it?

HighwayStar

4,385 posts

146 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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Andy20vt said:
Except this has issue has been addressed for years (better and an awful lot cheaper) with an RS4, or if you really need the space an RS6. Doubt anyone sensible will be putting kids in an Urus, they'd have the interior trashed in a couple of weeks. Or if you fancy something leftfield then this is only 2/3rds the price of a Urus, far more practical, 4WD, and if you had it without the stickers, and in a sensible colour, it's an awful lot cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB37QIZfgEI
That is an awful lot cooler! A souped up van...? Seriously? You’ve said if a tall SUV hits you in your family mystery car it’ll destroy it. This van could do the same... Those same kids who do ruin interiors would ruin the interior of the van, an RS6 or anything else you feel you have to recommend.
Andy giving advice on cool roflrolleyes

DonkeyApple

56,375 posts

171 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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briang9 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Not all young children are oiks. Plenty of children manage to do absolutely no damage and are no issue to put in nice cars.

I’ve always fancied an Italian supercar and seeing as my mild issue with this car is that it seems a bit too German to be Italian I don’t think an Audi estate or a German van are going to tick the right boxes.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 9th December 21:32
have you driven an RS6?
Yes. And an RS4 across Europe. And an M5. And an E55 AMG.

None of which remotely fitted the bill of being an Italian supercar, so I’m not quite sure what the relevance is here? If I wanted any of those cars I would have just bought one but I never have wanted to own one despite how good they are because they aren’t what I want to own. At no point would I ever head out of the house excited to see or at the prospect of driving them. They don’t float my boat in any way.

Maybe if I had so cross country daily commute I would consider one as a generic commuting car but in reality I suspect it would just buy an SC Rangie for that sort of work.

But, seeing as I have been discussing that this new Italian supercar feels a bit too German I am really not seeing the logic of then suggesting the purchase of a German commuter car or van as a logical progression? wink

911stu

643 posts

215 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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Has a Lambo ever NOT been bought by look at me types, who don't love the limelight. Let them get on with it....
Would you rather Lamborghinis disappeared off our streets.
I am sure there were people that doubted the need for (and slated) a mid engined
Super car for the road when the
Miura hit the streets

E65Ross

35,227 posts

214 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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HighwayStar said:
Andy20vt said:
Except this has issue has been addressed for years (better and an awful lot cheaper) with an RS4, or if you really need the space an RS6. Doubt anyone sensible will be putting kids in an Urus, they'd have the interior trashed in a couple of weeks. Or if you fancy something leftfield then this is only 2/3rds the price of a Urus, far more practical, 4WD, and if you had it without the stickers, and in a sensible colour, it's an awful lot cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB37QIZfgEI
That is an awful lot cooler! A souped up van...? Seriously? You’ve said if a tall SUV hits you in your family mystery car it’ll destroy it. This van could do the same... Those same kids who do ruin interiors would ruin the interior of the van, an RS6 or anything else you feel you have to recommend.
Andy giving advice on cool roflrolleyes
rofl just saw this!! Hilarious if he thinks that's a genuine contender as a rival for this Urus.

HighwayStar

4,385 posts

146 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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E65Ross said:
HighwayStar said:
Andy20vt said:
Except this has issue has been addressed for years (better and an awful lot cheaper) with an RS4, or if you really need the space an RS6. Doubt anyone sensible will be putting kids in an Urus, they'd have the interior trashed in a couple of weeks. Or if you fancy something leftfield then this is only 2/3rds the price of a Urus, far more practical, 4WD, and if you had it without the stickers, and in a sensible colour, it's an awful lot cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB37QIZfgEI
That is an awful lot cooler! A souped up van...? Seriously? You’ve said if a tall SUV hits you in your family mystery car it’ll destroy it. This van could do the same... Those same kids who do ruin interiors would ruin the interior of the van, an RS6 or anything else you feel you have to recommend.
Andy giving advice on cool roflrolleyes
rofl just saw this!! Hilarious if he thinks that's a genuine contender as a rival for this Urus.
Unbelievable eh... you can’t make this stuff up.
That’s why a small part of thinks, he can’t be serious. Really? Maybe he is. Or maybe, just maybe he’s having a laugh... I don’t think so though.
If he keeps this stuff up though then it’s entertainment wink