RE: All-new Toyota Land Cruiser launched

RE: All-new Toyota Land Cruiser launched

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ChocolateFrog

25,841 posts

175 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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VTC said:
Land Cruiser whilst available to order
not really a car you see in Turkey
maybe the cost price of £217486.00 may put most buyers off a tad.

No idea what the new model if ever available would cost.
What's the deal there?

100% import tax?

dxg

8,309 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Meanwhile, in developing nations:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...


Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.

biggbn

23,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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dxg said:
Meanwhile, in developing nations:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...


Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
Brilliant!!

Snow and Rocks

1,956 posts

29 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.


biggbn

23,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Snow and Rocks said:
While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.

...and I love that too! I have a wealthy friend who has a choice of some very nice metal but drives a HiLux every day, even using it transcontinental. Top spec turbo diesel, replaced a top spec 3.0td. In his words, 'I really like my other cars but I LOVE my truck'!

VTC

2,014 posts

186 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
What's the deal there?

100% import tax?
Yes
Cars are ridiculously expensive
even aged ones are many thousands to buy.
a friend got a RR sport V8 diesel
it cost him 50k (£) nigh on 200k on the clock loads of small flaults.

a 12 year old hyundai accent sold for £10k

VTC

2,014 posts

186 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Snow and Rocks said:
While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.

Very nice Model

do you have what appears to be a rattling dashboard at tickover ?

Mine did the dealer resolved it oddly it was the airbox connection under the bonnet.

LimaDelta

6,568 posts

220 months

Sunday 10th December 2023
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Snow and Rocks said:
While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.

Snap



Although it was replaced by a 2.8 auto so the OH could drive it, but she never did.



Perfect for garden & estate work cloud9 I'd still have it if it didn't make the pesky kids so car sick on long journeys, hence the change to a LC.

But since this is a LC thread... biggrin


808 Estate

2,146 posts

93 months

Sunday 10th December 2023
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dxg said:
Meanwhile, in developing nations:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...


Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
Love the camper version. Much want.

ledz

580 posts

41 months

Monday 18th December 2023
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Still no news from the dealers ?

djone101

943 posts

286 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.

So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...

AmitG

3,312 posts

162 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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djone101 said:
On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.

So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
Makes me wonder why they limit the numbers so strictly. It's not like a super-premium car where buyers are paying for the "1 of n" exclusivity and/or they are hand made at a very slow rate.

I reckon that they could make 10,000 First Editions and they would all sell quickly. And they would make very decent money.

I saw the same thing with the GT86 and GR Yaris, at least in the UK.

Maybe emissions has something to do with it? I think there are EU rules over fleet emissions (which the UK has kept) and maybe selling too many Land Cruisers tips the balance the wrong way? Especially given that Toyota's BEVs are not exactly flying out of the showrooms.

Either that or Toyota Europe didn't do their market research properly.


D4rez

1,433 posts

58 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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AmitG said:
djone101 said:
On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.

So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
Makes me wonder why they limit the numbers so strictly. It's not like a super-premium car where buyers are paying for the "1 of n" exclusivity and/or they are hand made at a very slow rate.

I reckon that they could make 10,000 First Editions and they would all sell quickly. And they would make very decent money.

I saw the same thing with the GT86 and GR Yaris, at least in the UK.

Maybe emissions has something to do with it? I think there are EU rules over fleet emissions (which the UK has kept) and maybe selling too many Land Cruisers tips the balance the wrong way? Especially given that Toyota's BEVs are not exactly flying out of the showrooms.

Either that or Toyota Europe didn't do their market research properly.
That is the case I believe - same reason they've now withdrawn the Supra for sale for the foreseeable

Snow and Rocks

1,956 posts

29 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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If it is the case then I wonder how Land Rover get around it? Almost everything they sell is at least reasonably thirsty and some of the big supercharged V8s must be spectacularly bad.

I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.

Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.

ledz

580 posts

41 months

Saturday 6th January
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Any news on when we can place an order for the new land crusier ?

dxg

8,309 posts

262 months

Saturday 6th January
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D4rez said:
AmitG said:
djone101 said:
On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.

So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
Makes me wonder why they limit the numbers so strictly. It's not like a super-premium car where buyers are paying for the "1 of n" exclusivity and/or they are hand made at a very slow rate.

I reckon that they could make 10,000 First Editions and they would all sell quickly. And they would make very decent money.

I saw the same thing with the GT86 and GR Yaris, at least in the UK.

Maybe emissions has something to do with it? I think there are EU rules over fleet emissions (which the UK has kept) and maybe selling too many Land Cruisers tips the balance the wrong way? Especially given that Toyota's BEVs are not exactly flying out of the showrooms.

Either that or Toyota Europe didn't do their market research properly.
That is the case I believe - same reason they've now withdrawn the Supra for sale for the foreseeable
I never knew the Supra had stopped!!!

I wonder if that's why the Z4 is now suddenly getting a manual gearbox.

Gary Woodland

2,552 posts

164 months

Monday 15th January
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Anyone hear anything from their dealer yet? I’m surprised it’s been so radio silent. Pretty disappointing we don’t even have a price yet.

_Rodders_

585 posts

21 months

Monday 15th January
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Snow and Rocks said:
If it is the case then I wonder how Land Rover get around it? Almost everything they sell is at least reasonably thirsty and some of the big supercharged V8s must be spectacularly bad.

I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.

Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
Can't remember exactly but weight plays a part.

I'm sure that's why Suzuki had to pull the Jimny but a 3t Defender is fine.

Maybe I'm getting Euro emissions regs and fleet average CO2 mixed up.

blueST

4,412 posts

218 months

Monday 15th January
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_Rodders_ said:
Snow and Rocks said:
If it is the case then I wonder how Land Rover get around it? Almost everything they sell is at least reasonably thirsty and some of the big supercharged V8s must be spectacularly bad.

I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.

Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
Can't remember exactly but weight plays a part.

I'm sure that's why Suzuki had to pull the Jimny but a 3t Defender is fine.

Maybe I'm getting Euro emissions regs and fleet average CO2 mixed up.
I was going to post something similar, but also couldn't remember the finer points of how it works. I'm sure weight is a factor somewhere though.

LimaDelta

6,568 posts

220 months

Monday 15th January
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I've still not heard anything, but honestly, I still love my current Land Cruiser, so not in any huge rush to replace it. Especially as I still haven't seen any colour or interior finish options outside the launch editions.