RE: All-new Toyota Land Cruiser launched
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Meanwhile, in developing nations:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...
Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...
Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
dxg said:
Meanwhile, in developing nations:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...
Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
Brilliant!! https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...
Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
Snow and Rocks said:
While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.
...and I love that too! I have a wealthy friend who has a choice of some very nice metal but drives a HiLux every day, even using it transcontinental. Top spec turbo diesel, replaced a top spec 3.0td. In his words, 'I really like my other cars but I LOVE my truck'! Snow and Rocks said:
While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.
Very nice Modeldo you have what appears to be a rattling dashboard at tickover ?
Mine did the dealer resolved it oddly it was the airbox connection under the bonnet.
Snow and Rocks said:
While I love it, once you add in all of the expensive safety features and mandatory electronics needed for EU markets there's not really much difference between that and my active spec Hilux. About the only "luxuries" you could delete would be the cd player, manual AC and the electric windows.
SnapAlthough it was replaced by a 2.8 auto so the OH could drive it, but she never did.
Perfect for garden & estate work I'd still have it if it didn't make the pesky kids so car sick on long journeys, hence the change to a LC.
But since this is a LC thread...
dxg said:
Meanwhile, in developing nations:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...
Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
Love the camper version. Much want.https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv...
Why can't they sell something like that here? It would dominate. Could be customised to be whatever you want.
djone101 said:
On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.
So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
Makes me wonder why they limit the numbers so strictly. It's not like a super-premium car where buyers are paying for the "1 of n" exclusivity and/or they are hand made at a very slow rate.So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
I reckon that they could make 10,000 First Editions and they would all sell quickly. And they would make very decent money.
I saw the same thing with the GT86 and GR Yaris, at least in the UK.
Maybe emissions has something to do with it? I think there are EU rules over fleet emissions (which the UK has kept) and maybe selling too many Land Cruisers tips the balance the wrong way? Especially given that Toyota's BEVs are not exactly flying out of the showrooms.
Either that or Toyota Europe didn't do their market research properly.
AmitG said:
djone101 said:
On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.
So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
Makes me wonder why they limit the numbers so strictly. It's not like a super-premium car where buyers are paying for the "1 of n" exclusivity and/or they are hand made at a very slow rate.So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
I reckon that they could make 10,000 First Editions and they would all sell quickly. And they would make very decent money.
I saw the same thing with the GT86 and GR Yaris, at least in the UK.
Maybe emissions has something to do with it? I think there are EU rules over fleet emissions (which the UK has kept) and maybe selling too many Land Cruisers tips the balance the wrong way? Especially given that Toyota's BEVs are not exactly flying out of the showrooms.
Either that or Toyota Europe didn't do their market research properly.
If it is the case then I wonder how Land Rover get around it? Almost everything they sell is at least reasonably thirsty and some of the big supercharged V8s must be spectacularly bad.
I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.
Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.
Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
D4rez said:
AmitG said:
djone101 said:
On line sales went live in Germany on Dec 21st - apparently the 1000 First Edition models were spoken for in 30 minutes.
So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
Makes me wonder why they limit the numbers so strictly. It's not like a super-premium car where buyers are paying for the "1 of n" exclusivity and/or they are hand made at a very slow rate.So as and when they go on line in the UK you're going to need to be speedy I suspect...
I reckon that they could make 10,000 First Editions and they would all sell quickly. And they would make very decent money.
I saw the same thing with the GT86 and GR Yaris, at least in the UK.
Maybe emissions has something to do with it? I think there are EU rules over fleet emissions (which the UK has kept) and maybe selling too many Land Cruisers tips the balance the wrong way? Especially given that Toyota's BEVs are not exactly flying out of the showrooms.
Either that or Toyota Europe didn't do their market research properly.
I wonder if that's why the Z4 is now suddenly getting a manual gearbox.
Snow and Rocks said:
If it is the case then I wonder how Land Rover get around it? Almost everything they sell is at least reasonably thirsty and some of the big supercharged V8s must be spectacularly bad.
I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.
Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
Can't remember exactly but weight plays a part. I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.
Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
I'm sure that's why Suzuki had to pull the Jimny but a 3t Defender is fine.
Maybe I'm getting Euro emissions regs and fleet average CO2 mixed up.
_Rodders_ said:
Snow and Rocks said:
If it is the case then I wonder how Land Rover get around it? Almost everything they sell is at least reasonably thirsty and some of the big supercharged V8s must be spectacularly bad.
I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.
Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
Can't remember exactly but weight plays a part. I actually wonder if it's production constraints - the 300 series has a huge waiting list even in countries where EU limits won't apply and I imagine this is going to orders of magnitude more popular.
Also no mention yet of a European version of the 1958 edition or an Active/Utility low spec trim like the outgoing model, still got my fingers very firmly crossed.
I'm sure that's why Suzuki had to pull the Jimny but a 3t Defender is fine.
Maybe I'm getting Euro emissions regs and fleet average CO2 mixed up.
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