The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T (Vol XVII)
Discussion
Crook said:
I like the cars in octane. I like some of the writers and the knowledge they impart.
I cannot abide that it is now a glorified investment rag more obsessed by money than the Daily Mail.
A terrible shame.
I was reading an article which could be summerised as 'concours d'elegance are only relevant now because the rich people with the shiney cars are getting the proper noshing and hat doffing they deserve due to their position in society.'
Another comment, this proudly spouted out by Kath's brother about how he bought the Alain Delon 250 for a client as part of a collection being created based on rariety, desirability and investment potential. Not, unfortunately it would appear, because the guy wants to buy cars he actually likes...
Wasn't there also something about how certain events (Goodwood in particular) were being ruined by the wrong type of people?I cannot abide that it is now a glorified investment rag more obsessed by money than the Daily Mail.
A terrible shame.
I was reading an article which could be summerised as 'concours d'elegance are only relevant now because the rich people with the shiney cars are getting the proper noshing and hat doffing they deserve due to their position in society.'
Another comment, this proudly spouted out by Kath's brother about how he bought the Alain Delon 250 for a client as part of a collection being created based on rariety, desirability and investment potential. Not, unfortunately it would appear, because the guy wants to buy cars he actually likes...
The obsession with values is quite crass.
Otherwise a good occasional read.
Output Flange said:
Well, we're British - we like a moan.
In actual car discussion, I took the M5 on my 200 miles commute yesterday rather than the 530d, and (to keep with the moaning) it made me wonder why nothing seems to ride nicely any more? It's knocking on 30 years old, but can deal with the lumps, bumps and expansion joints of the M1/M6 so much better than the E39, which crashes its way over them.
Was better outward visibility noticeable?In actual car discussion, I took the M5 on my 200 miles commute yesterday rather than the 530d, and (to keep with the moaning) it made me wonder why nothing seems to ride nicely any more? It's knocking on 30 years old, but can deal with the lumps, bumps and expansion joints of the M1/M6 so much better than the E39, which crashes its way over them.
Back in the days of short socks and green fields, car mags used to discuss outward visibility in all their reviews as an important factor. Modern cars are so poor in comparison but the mags never mention it these days, multimedia and cupholders being much more important.
DJFish said:
Crook said:
I like the cars in octane. I like some of the writers and the knowledge they impart.
I cannot abide that it is now a glorified investment rag more obsessed by money than the Daily Mail.
A terrible shame.
I was reading an article which could be summerised as 'concours d'elegance are only relevant now because the rich people with the shiney cars are getting the proper noshing and hat doffing they deserve due to their position in society.'
Another comment, this proudly spouted out by Kath's brother about how he bought the Alain Delon 250 for a client as part of a collection being created based on rariety, desirability and investment potential. Not, unfortunately it would appear, because the guy wants to buy cars he actually likes...
Wasn't there also something about how certain events (Goodwood in particular) were being ruined by the wrong type of people?I cannot abide that it is now a glorified investment rag more obsessed by money than the Daily Mail.
A terrible shame.
I was reading an article which could be summerised as 'concours d'elegance are only relevant now because the rich people with the shiney cars are getting the proper noshing and hat doffing they deserve due to their position in society.'
Another comment, this proudly spouted out by Kath's brother about how he bought the Alain Delon 250 for a client as part of a collection being created based on rariety, desirability and investment potential. Not, unfortunately it would appear, because the guy wants to buy cars he actually likes...
The obsession with values is quite crass.
Otherwise a good occasional read.
For those of a slightly tweedy persuasion may appreciate this article, and the pretty pictures, just as much as I did;
Grossglockner Grand Prix
http://www.petrolicious.com/have-you-ever-hooned-a...
Grossglockner Grand Prix
http://www.petrolicious.com/have-you-ever-hooned-a...
Crook said:
DJFish said:
Crook said:
I like the cars in octane. I like some of the writers and the knowledge they impart.
I cannot abide that it is now a glorified investment rag more obsessed by money than the Daily Mail.
A terrible shame.
I was reading an article which could be summerised as 'concours d'elegance are only relevant now because the rich people with the shiney cars are getting the proper noshing and hat doffing they deserve due to their position in society.'
Another comment, this proudly spouted out by Kath's brother about how he bought the Alain Delon 250 for a client as part of a collection being created based on rariety, desirability and investment potential. Not, unfortunately it would appear, because the guy wants to buy cars he actually likes...
Wasn't there also something about how certain events (Goodwood in particular) were being ruined by the wrong type of people?I cannot abide that it is now a glorified investment rag more obsessed by money than the Daily Mail.
A terrible shame.
I was reading an article which could be summerised as 'concours d'elegance are only relevant now because the rich people with the shiney cars are getting the proper noshing and hat doffing they deserve due to their position in society.'
Another comment, this proudly spouted out by Kath's brother about how he bought the Alain Delon 250 for a client as part of a collection being created based on rariety, desirability and investment potential. Not, unfortunately it would appear, because the guy wants to buy cars he actually likes...
The obsession with values is quite crass.
Otherwise a good occasional read.
M3 man and the Williams branded clothing man has now ruined the FoS from the common end and The Season has ruined it from the top end.
5yrs ago
The jeans brigade is ruining it from the common end, The Season from the top end but mostly the middle classes and love of dressing up for a garden party is ruining it for the majority. To be really honest the only haven of sanity at the Revival for 10 yrs rather than 5 has been the Aero Club. That way you can at least ignore the GRRC blazer brigade and most of the dressed up rejects.
Fortunately we have the Members Meeting now which hopefully should give us 5 yrs of fun before that starts to get ruined.
As someone who attended their first Revival this year and had a simply amazing time (admittedly as the guest of Lord March, which I'm sure helped) can someone explain what "the Season ruining it from the top end" means and who are the GRRC blazer brigade? Everyone I met was perfectly charming.
A good friend was kind/daft enough to let me have a quick go in his supercharged (great word SUPER-CHARGED!, sounds so British and retro-futuristic all at the same time. you can almost imagine the tweed wrapped scene with pipes, hats on tables and possibly a lab relaxing in front of a french window as the ladies busy themselves on the lawn, "What? you say it's SUPER-CHARGED? my word that sounds fantastic!") S2 Elise and it is HILARIOUS. It just pulls and pulls and pulls to 9k then does it all again and again and again and again and etc.
Also saw the Vulcan /
Also saw the Vulcan /
On a happier note, I'm loving this today:
My dad had one exactly like that in '61, and it was one of the inspirations for me to get one of these around 25 years later:
My first ever RWD car, so it has a fond place in my memory (despite the nasty bumpers). My favourite memory was: I used to play in a big band so was all dressed up in my dinner jacket when i was pushing on home after a concert one night. The car decided to spit off one of its rear tyres as I chucked it around a roundabout. Thankfully the outcome was nothing worse than the embarrassment of having to change a wheel in my dinner jacket in the pouring rain! (oh - and the subsequent purchase of new tyres all round...)
I also remember trying to find cheap ways of making it go faster. I thought taking the bumpers off would remove some weight, and as I took them off, finding out how heavy they were, I thought I'd hit on a miracle. Unfortunately with no bumpers, the car sat up about 9 inches* higher than normal, and I couldn't afford new springs, so back on they went... Happy days.
My dad had one exactly like that in '61, and it was one of the inspirations for me to get one of these around 25 years later:
My first ever RWD car, so it has a fond place in my memory (despite the nasty bumpers). My favourite memory was: I used to play in a big band so was all dressed up in my dinner jacket when i was pushing on home after a concert one night. The car decided to spit off one of its rear tyres as I chucked it around a roundabout. Thankfully the outcome was nothing worse than the embarrassment of having to change a wheel in my dinner jacket in the pouring rain! (oh - and the subsequent purchase of new tyres all round...)
I also remember trying to find cheap ways of making it go faster. I thought taking the bumpers off would remove some weight, and as I took them off, finding out how heavy they were, I thought I'd hit on a miracle. Unfortunately with no bumpers, the car sat up about 9 inches* higher than normal, and I couldn't afford new springs, so back on they went... Happy days.
- ETA maybe that's a bit of a exageration...
Edited by rejn on Monday 5th October 11:23
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