One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4
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AlexRS2782 said:
captain_cynic said:
What annoys me about merging is that when a queue has formed and crawling along at 5 mph no one thinks of making a gap in front of them until they actually get to the merge point. Thus we end up with a stop-start situation as people realise they need to start making a gap far too late.
Traffic would flow more smoothly if people started making a gap before getting to the merge point so we actually look like a zip before merging like one.
Bizarre situation, that could have been avoided had the zipper technique been applied, on Thursday afternoon where the lanes merge at the BP petrol station down the road from me in Bagshot.Traffic would flow more smoothly if people started making a gap before getting to the merge point so we actually look like a zip before merging like one.
2 older gents attempting to "merge" and take position behind me in a queue of relativelly slow moving traffic. One in the left lane in a Volvo C30, the other in the right hand lane in a recent shape C4 Picasso. Neither wanted to defer / both had to be ahead of the other.
Slightly concerned as to whether i'd get rear ended by one of them i managed to open up a slightly bigger gap and as the slow moving queue of traffic crawled along i kept glancing in my mirrors keeping an eye on what they were up to as both started getting closer & closer & closer.
Eventually, as they started to run out of road space their mirrors touched. C4 guy successfully folding his all the way into the car and C30 guy gets his drivers mirror bent nicely forwards. But does that stop them? Nope - they kept on getting ever closer until C4 guy pushes C30 guy up the kerb and onto the pavement. C30 guy retaliates by turning off the kerb / pavement back into the passenger side front quarter panel of the C4. Did that stop them? Nope. They both kept scraping each other until C4 guy planted his foot down and dragged the entirety of the passenger side of his car down the driver side of the C30.
At this point i took the opportunity to quickly turn into the entrance to the carpark of the local Fish & Chip shop, as i was getting a bit concerned about whether C4 guy was going to end up rear ending me, i hear a loud bang. Looked out of my window and it turned out C30 guy had decided to seek retribution by planting his own foot down and smacking into the rear end of C4 guy. Rather concerningly neither of them stopped after this fairly significant bit of contact. The rear bumper on the C4 looked rather wonky as did the front on the C30 but both continued to tailgate each other along the queue of traffic.
I decided to wait a few minutes before rejoining the queue and heading off to the local Waitrose. As i drove in to the main carpark i glanced over and could see both cars parked up with the respective owners (and associated wives) standing next to their cars having a blazing arguement over who was at fault i guess
Judging by the damage on both cars i reckon C30 guy must have punted the C4 from behind again at some point.By the time i'd done my shopping and was leaving both of their cars had gone but it was totally bizarre tbh. Probably the weirdest thing i've seen since i passed my test in '97 and even typing it up it now sounds bloody ridiculous
Ironically all of what played out could have been avoided had both just crawled along slowly and given way to each other rather than having to be "first".The whole point of ‘in turn’ is to let a car in between you and the car in front.
I have to pass through a permanent merge every day, that is fed by a two lane roundabout exit. Yet, I still get some moron like that tucked in tight behind me.
Hol said:
Who ever was in the lane behind you at the start was as fault.
The whole point of ‘in turn’ is to let a car in between you and the car in front.
I have to pass through a permanent merge every day, that is fed by a two lane roundabout exit. Yet, I still get some moron like that tucked in tight behind me.
Hol,The whole point of ‘in turn’ is to let a car in between you and the car in front.
I have to pass through a permanent merge every day, that is fed by a two lane roundabout exit. Yet, I still get some moron like that tucked in tight behind me.
If i sm that situation and knob behind is not 'playing the game' and trying to leave the driver in the outside lane out to dry, i stop and wave the outer lane driver past me. Look and watch the knobs face turn several shade of purple rage
Pan Pan Pan said:
Another issue when driving in fog, is when someone comes up behind and rides a few feet off the rear of the car in front, weaving as though they are impatient to get past, If an opportunity to get past does come up, they whip past and then when in front, start driving 5 or so miles per hour slower than the car they have just tailgating was doing. What is all that about?
This may well be that following in fog puts you in an envelope of slightly better visibilty, having the lights of the leading car which is also stirring up the fog.Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Saturday 9th March 11:24
When you get past there is a rapid realisation how bad it is and a rapid adjustment of speed - Oh sh_t I can`t see where I`m going.
silverfoxcc said:
Hol said:
Who ever was in the lane behind you at the start was as fault.
The whole point of ‘in turn’ is to let a car in between you and the car in front.
I have to pass through a permanent merge every day, that is fed by a two lane roundabout exit. Yet, I still get some moron like that tucked in tight behind me.
Hol,The whole point of ‘in turn’ is to let a car in between you and the car in front.
I have to pass through a permanent merge every day, that is fed by a two lane roundabout exit. Yet, I still get some moron like that tucked in tight behind me.
If i sm that situation and knob behind is not 'playing the game' and trying to leave the driver in the outside lane out to dry, i stop and wave the outer lane driver past me. Look and watch the knobs face turn several shade of purple rage
GerryAttrick said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Another issue when driving in fog, is when someone comes up behind and rides a few feet off the rear of the car in front, weaving as though they are impatient to get past, If an opportunity to get past does come up, they whip past and then when in front, start driving 5 or so miles per hour slower than the car they have just tailgating was doing. What is all that about?
This may well be that following in fog puts you in an envelope of slightly better visibilty, having the lights of the leading car which is also stirring up the fog.Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Saturday 9th March 11:24
When you get past there is a rapid realisation how bad it is and a rapid adjustment of speed - Oh sh_t I can`t see where I`m going.
Me slightly, on Saturday.
I caught up to a line of three cars behind a group of cyclists, the front of which, bless them, really didn't know how to overtake. So, rather than attempting an overtake and messing up, they just weren't. The road was kinked, but with good sight lines.
I hopped the first car in the queue, then hopped the next, but it was still clear, so I passed the final car in the same manoeuvre. I had no issues passing the cyclists, because, well, I too was on a pushbike!
Yes, I had somewhere to be by a deadline, made it with 2 minutes to spare.
I caught up to a line of three cars behind a group of cyclists, the front of which, bless them, really didn't know how to overtake. So, rather than attempting an overtake and messing up, they just weren't. The road was kinked, but with good sight lines.
I hopped the first car in the queue, then hopped the next, but it was still clear, so I passed the final car in the same manoeuvre. I had no issues passing the cyclists, because, well, I too was on a pushbike!
Yes, I had somewhere to be by a deadline, made it with 2 minutes to spare.
Solocle said:
Me slightly, on Saturday.
I caught up to a line of three cars behind a group of cyclists, the front of which, bless them, really didn't know how to overtake. So, rather than attempting an overtake and messing up, they just weren't. The road was kinked, but with good sight lines.
I hopped the first car in the queue, then hopped the next, but it was still clear, so I passed the final car in the same manoeuvre. I had no issues passing the cyclists, because, well, I too was on a pushbike!
Yes, I had somewhere to be by a deadline, made it with 2 minutes to spare.
i think there is a problem if you feel the need to 'out' yourself for doing this... nothing to apologise for. Cars that bunch up in such a way yet refuse to overtake are driving poorly and creating an obstruction. I encounter it frequently on my commute. I caught up to a line of three cars behind a group of cyclists, the front of which, bless them, really didn't know how to overtake. So, rather than attempting an overtake and messing up, they just weren't. The road was kinked, but with good sight lines.
I hopped the first car in the queue, then hopped the next, but it was still clear, so I passed the final car in the same manoeuvre. I had no issues passing the cyclists, because, well, I too was on a pushbike!
Yes, I had somewhere to be by a deadline, made it with 2 minutes to spare.
Solocle said:
Me slightly, on Saturday.
I caught up to a line of three cars behind a group of cyclists, the front of which, bless them, really didn't know how to overtake. So, rather than attempting an overtake and messing up, they just weren't. The road was kinked, but with good sight lines.
I hopped the first car in the queue, then hopped the next, but it was still clear, so I passed the final car in the same manoeuvre. I had no issues passing the cyclists, because, well, I too was on a pushbike!
Yes, I had somewhere to be by a deadline, made it with 2 minutes to spare.
Good man..... although few things outrage a driver more than being overtaken by a cyclist I caught up to a line of three cars behind a group of cyclists, the front of which, bless them, really didn't know how to overtake. So, rather than attempting an overtake and messing up, they just weren't. The road was kinked, but with good sight lines.
I hopped the first car in the queue, then hopped the next, but it was still clear, so I passed the final car in the same manoeuvre. I had no issues passing the cyclists, because, well, I too was on a pushbike!
Yes, I had somewhere to be by a deadline, made it with 2 minutes to spare.
The only time I got forced off the road by a driver was just after I'd done that same thing.
Ares said:
Good man..... although few things outrage a driver more than being overtaken by a cyclist
The only time I got forced off the road by a driver was just after I'd done that same thing.
I think it helped that, by the time the leading driver turned off, I'd made some decent progress, and when the following cars passed again, I was in a group slogging it up a hill. I was most concerned about somebody initiating an overtake without seeing me, tbh.The only time I got forced off the road by a driver was just after I'd done that same thing.
Blown2CV said:
i think there is a problem if you feel the need to 'out' yourself for doing this... nothing to apologise for. Cars that bunch up in such a way yet refuse to overtake are driving poorly and creating an obstruction. I encounter it frequently on my commute.
Just the slight knobbery because it did feel like rubbing it in their faces a bit. Being smaller opened up opportunities not available to cars. It's not like they were tailgating at that speed, the stopping distance was just too short.Edited by Solocle on Monday 11th March 12:53
Today in very heavy traffic on the M4 at 07:30, a guy who had been sitting a few metres behind me in the outside lane, undertook me in the middle lane and cut in front of me so agressively I had to brake to not hit him. There was absolutely no point in doing it at all
I was pretty pissed off and let myself down a bit by immediatly doing the same to him, and apparantly that makes me a w*****. Not that I am disputing it but more than a little hypocritical given the timeline of events and the fact that he done it me seconds earlier for no advantage whatsoever
I was pretty pissed off and let myself down a bit by immediatly doing the same to him, and apparantly that makes me a w*****. Not that I am disputing it but more than a little hypocritical given the timeline of events and the fact that he done it me seconds earlier for no advantage whatsoever
AlexRS2782 said:
captain_cynic said:
What annoys me about merging is that when a queue has formed and crawling along at 5 mph no one thinks of making a gap in front of them until they actually get to the merge point. Thus we end up with a stop-start situation as people realise they need to start making a gap far too late.
Traffic would flow more smoothly if people started making a gap before getting to the merge point so we actually look like a zip before merging like one.
Bizarre situation, that could have been avoided had the zipper technique been applied, on Thursday afternoon where the lanes merge at the BP petrol station down the road from me in Bagshot.Traffic would flow more smoothly if people started making a gap before getting to the merge point so we actually look like a zip before merging like one.
But that intersection at Bagshot is terrible at the best of times. I always used to go down the high street past the Co-op to get on the A322.
GerryAttrick said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Another issue when driving in fog, is when someone comes up behind and rides a few feet off the rear of the car in front, weaving as though they are impatient to get past, If an opportunity to get past does come up, they whip past and then when in front, start driving 5 or so miles per hour slower than the car they have just tailgating was doing. What is all that about?
This may well be that following in fog puts you in an envelope of slightly better visibilty, having the lights of the leading car which is also stirring up the fog.Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Saturday 9th March 11:24
When you get past there is a rapid realisation how bad it is and a rapid adjustment of speed - Oh sh_t I can`t see where I`m going.
Generally I am fairly happy to stay behind some someone who is crawling along in fog (provided they are not going ridiculously slowly), because if they are, that sets me up for being tail ended by someone coming up from behind, almost as If had stopped in the road. I also dislike those who have perfectly good driveways but who choose to keep their car parked in the road in bad foggy conditions. Do they do that hoping that someone will run into their car?
Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Tuesday 12th March 12:13
nonsequitur said:
Flibble said:
Middle aged men (often with florid red faces) seem much worse than any other group for road rage and dubious manoeuvres.
Gammon. I think that is the word that the young use.It's true though, certainly in Suffolk/Essex at least. Every time I drive past a road rage instigator, it's always some little lobster faced MAM frothing at the mouth, hammering the dashboard with his fist.
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