It's amazing more bikers aren't killed

[John D.]

Bonefish Blues said:

Fats25 said:

Bonefish Blues said:

No problem with headlights - absolutely the right thing for bikers, but it's the full beam lark that I think is discracting and inconsiderate.

I don't know anyone that does this..... only place I have ever seen it is in France (where they also put hazards on when filtering).

As above all bikes after a certain period (approx 2000 I would guess) have running day lights. However you have to remember that a motorbike is setup, and MOT tested, for the light height, against a white board.

I rode my Mrs bike in yesterday to get it serviced. She weighs 8 stone - I am more than double that. I am sure you can imagine the difference this makes to how lights appear? Could that be what you are observing? I just do not know of anyone that would ever ride with full beam on - other than down country lanes, where cars would be doing the same thing, and you would dip for approaching vehicles.

Take your word for it, but the difference between different bikes' lights is so extreme that this was all I could attribute it to?

As an M40 resident it really is that marked.

I regularly spot the odd biker who is blatantly using full beam (yes, I can tell the difference). I can see the rationale but its not something I agree with. Gets peoples backs up more than it helps visibility imho.

[*Al*]

I had some young lad on a 50cc trails bike with 'L' plates stop dead in front of me to let a police car out from a garage forecourt ( 40 mph road ) even though he wasn't going into the garage. I did stop in time because i had already read what might happen, he put himself in direct danger which was poor judgement. As i stopped i gave a short toot on my horn to which he rode off constantly shaking his head.
This isn't a biker rant, i am a biker myself who owns and regulary rides a 1000cc sportsbike, I was just shocked how he didn't realise what danger he put himself into.Not his fault if he was hit from behind but that's no comfort when you are on the floor possibly fataly injured, a basic misjudgement and he didn't realise it. Didn't have a chance to explain politely as all the lights were green!

[*Al*]

John D. said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Fats25 said:

Bonefish Blues said:

No problem with headlights - absolutely the right thing for bikers, but it's the full beam lark that I think is discracting and inconsiderate.

I don't know anyone that does this..... only place I have ever seen it is in France (where they also put hazards on when filtering).

As above all bikes after a certain period (approx 2000 I would guess) have running day lights. However you have to remember that a motorbike is setup, and MOT tested, for the light height, against a white board.

I rode my Mrs bike in yesterday to get it serviced. She weighs 8 stone - I am more than double that. I am sure you can imagine the difference this makes to how lights appear? Could that be what you are observing? I just do not know of anyone that would ever ride with full beam on - other than down country lanes, where cars would be doing the same thing, and you would dip for approaching vehicles.

Take your word for it, but the difference between different bikes' lights is so extreme that this was all I could attribute it to?

As an M40 resident it really is that marked.

I regularly spot the odd biker who is blatantly using full beam (yes, I can tell the difference). I can see the rationale but its not something I agree with. Gets peoples backs up more than it helps visibility imho.

If you're moaning then you have seen the biker, job done. I cringe when i see bikers with no lights on.

[dibblecorse]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

[John D.]

*Al* said:

John D. said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Fats25 said:

Bonefish Blues said:

No problem with headlights - absolutely the right thing for bikers, but it's the full beam lark that I think is discracting and inconsiderate.

I don't know anyone that does this..... only place I have ever seen it is in France (where they also put hazards on when filtering).

As above all bikes after a certain period (approx 2000 I would guess) have running day lights. However you have to remember that a motorbike is setup, and MOT tested, for the light height, against a white board.

I rode my Mrs bike in yesterday to get it serviced. She weighs 8 stone - I am more than double that. I am sure you can imagine the difference this makes to how lights appear? Could that be what you are observing? I just do not know of anyone that would ever ride with full beam on - other than down country lanes, where cars would be doing the same thing, and you would dip for approaching vehicles.

Take your word for it, but the difference between different bikes' lights is so extreme that this was all I could attribute it to?

As an M40 resident it really is that marked.

I regularly spot the odd biker who is blatantly using full beam (yes, I can tell the difference). I can see the rationale but its not something I agree with. Gets peoples backs up more than it helps visibility imho.

If you're moaning then you have seen the biker, job done. I cringe when i see bikers with no lights on.

Well done for completely missing my point.

[Pothole]

John D. said:

*Al* said:

John D. said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Fats25 said:

Bonefish Blues said:

No problem with headlights - absolutely the right thing for bikers, but it's the full beam lark that I think is discracting and inconsiderate.

I don't know anyone that does this..... only place I have ever seen it is in France (where they also put hazards on when filtering).

As above all bikes after a certain period (approx 2000 I would guess) have running day lights. However you have to remember that a motorbike is setup, and MOT tested, for the light height, against a white board.

I rode my Mrs bike in yesterday to get it serviced. She weighs 8 stone - I am more than double that. I am sure you can imagine the difference this makes to how lights appear? Could that be what you are observing? I just do not know of anyone that would ever ride with full beam on - other than down country lanes, where cars would be doing the same thing, and you would dip for approaching vehicles.

Take your word for it, but the difference between different bikes' lights is so extreme that this was all I could attribute it to?

As an M40 resident it really is that marked.

I regularly spot the odd biker who is blatantly using full beam (yes, I can tell the difference). I can see the rationale but its not something I agree with. Gets peoples backs up more than it helps visibility imho.

If you're moaning then you have seen the biker, job done. I cringe when i see bikers with no lights on.

Well done for completely missing my point.

Your point appears to be that it 'gets peoples backs up more than it helps visibility'.

When you think about it, that makes no sense at all. For it to get anyone's back up it would have to be visible, wouldn't it?