RE: BMW Mulls Over Turbocharged V6
Discussion
kambites said:
Given how good NVH isolation is on modern cars, I'm quite surprised BMW have persisted with inline sixes for as long as they have. Otispunkmeyer said:
I've looked over many patents and that hand drawn look is par for the course.
Spot on. I write patent applications for a living, and it's usually a simple matter of either the client not wanting to pay for posh formal drawings (when you can tart them up later at your leisure), or there's not enough time to get formals drawn up before the application has to be filed.That said, even though I always file with informal drawings, I do always try to use drawing software so that it looks half-way decent....although I do remember one occasion when I had so little time that the application went in with a photo of a sketch that was drawn on the back of a beer mat
Otispunkmeyer said:
soxboy said:
So a firm with the engineering clout of BMW and many millions of Euros worth of CAD/CAM equipment submits its drawings to the patent office in hand drawn pen & ink?
Hmmmm
I've looked over many patents and that hand drawn look is par for the course. Hmmmm
If anything, it's rather neat for patent document. Many are simply hand sketches from people of varying degrees of artistic incompetence. I haven't done an application for some time but I seem to remember there being some quite rigid guide lines about the presentation that made doing the work on CAD quite tricky.
Otispunkmeyer said:
kambites said:
Given how good NVH isolation is on modern cars, I'm quite surprised BMW have persisted with inline sixes for as long as they have. Hungry Pigeon said:
Spot on. I write patent applications for a living, and it's usually a simple matter of either the client not wanting to pay for posh formal drawings (when you can tart them up later at your leisure), or there's not enough time to get formals drawn up before the application has to be filed.
That said, even though I always file with informal drawings, I do always try to use drawing software so that it looks half-way decent....although I do remember one occasion when I had so little time that the application went in with a photo of a sketch that was drawn on the back of a beer mat
Meh, dammed hand-drawn figures. I'm blaming you next time I open an application to search That said, even though I always file with informal drawings, I do always try to use drawing software so that it looks half-way decent....although I do remember one occasion when I had so little time that the application went in with a photo of a sketch that was drawn on the back of a beer mat
It's seems funny that the main thread of discussion is whether it's real or not... maybe this does show how actually no real petrolhead gives a flying kahoona burger what type of petrol burning device powers a car, it's how it handles, accelerates and drives that we really care about! Personally I prefer the sound of a V engine over a flat engine any day so from that point it can only be an improvement on the current offering....
The Wookie said:
Has anybody noted the fact that the diagrams appear to indicate that the exhaust ports (and thus manifolds and turbos) will be situated within the V, rather than the inlet?
Probably not unheard of, but quite unusual
That is how the upcomimg F10 M5's V8 bi turbo is designed, the same set up is also used on a number of other large BMW's X5M. X6M, 550i 750i/L....Probably not unheard of, but quite unusual
thinfourth2 said:
Intresting
2 exhaust turbines on the right hand bank turbo on the V6.
[pistonheadmode]OH god the horror of a V6 next they will make an inline 4 in the M3[/pistonheadmode]
YEah i noticed that. I would guse thats a twin scroll turbo. The second trubo would really need to be as its a sequentical setup so lag shouldn't be a problem. 2 exhaust turbines on the right hand bank turbo on the V6.
[pistonheadmode]OH god the horror of a V6 next they will make an inline 4 in the M3[/pistonheadmode]
Chris.
Some Turbo Engines do I agree but the specific engine in the B5 was awesome. It had massive boost and a good kick but also had a good feel of an NA engine.
I don't really like NA engines as much, I had an M6 with the V10 and it was brutal on accelration but no where near as much fun as the power delivery of the B5 and the same applied to the V8 engine in the B7 I had.
Horses for courses.
I don't really like NA engines as much, I had an M6 with the V10 and it was brutal on accelration but no where near as much fun as the power delivery of the B5 and the same applied to the V8 engine in the B7 I had.
Horses for courses.
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