Why is the NISSAN GT-R priced so keenly????

[ZeeTacoe]

SWoll said:

ZeeTacoe said:

hmmmm. I think a lot of people don't understand the difference between supercar and supercar like performance.

It has everything a supercar needs other than the badge.

Performance.
Handling.
Road presence.
Pedigree.

The engine isn't in the middle nor does it have a tiny , unusable boot at the front. It's fast but no special enough for a supercar



And the interior is pants compared to a lambarriaren Avenalia 4c

[Smifffy]

I'll be investigating the Litchfield warranty in a few months when my manufacturer's warranty goes away. I'll also be talking to Nissan, ofc.

As an owner I wouldn't say it's a supercar. It's un-bel-ievable to drive but it doesn't have the drama of a Pagani or Aventador etc. Its has presence, but not drama. I really consider it to be a terrifyingly fast GT with a small petrol tank

[DanDC5]

SWoll said:

DanDC5 said:

Are they costly to run/service just at Nissan though? Not seen prices that specialists charge to be honest.

Probably the best in the business

Litchfield

You're looking at E60 M5 money, but every 6000 miles

Just have to have a daily snotter aswell.

[pilchardthecat]

simoid said:

pilchardthecat said:

I think i would probably count myself among them, since I would define a supercar as such based on it's, erm, performance

How many Caterhams would you consider supercars?

All the ones that go 190 or 200 mph.....

So, erm, none.

[Nedzilla]

simoid said:

pilchardthecat said:

I think i would probably count myself among them, since I would define a supercar as such based on it's, erm, performance

How many Caterhams would you consider supercars?

Ive had a westfield and an Evo 8 which left many a supercar for dead.Were they supercars......Errm no,not even slightly.

[DanDC5]

Smifffy said:

I'll be investigating the Litchfield warranty in a few months when my manufacturer's warranty goes away. I'll also be talking to Nissan, ofc.

As an owner I wouldn't say it's a supercar. It's un-bel-ievable to drive but it doesn't have the drama of a Pagani or Aventador etc. Its has presence, but not drama. I really consider it to be a terrifyingly fast GT with a small petrol tank

See I'd class the Pagani or Aventador as hypercars. But I'm also only doing this as part troll to reignite another 'what defines a supercar' debate.

[Smifffy]

[k-ink]

DanDC5 said:

Could get an independant warranty on it though. Should cover things like the potential gearbox issue.

Should being the key word. I'd only trust a main dealer warranty with zero wriggle room. I'd need it stating 100% EVERYTHING is covered, no exceptions. Otherwise no thanks, why take a risk.

[DanDC5]

[Nedzilla]

DanDC5 said:

Smifffy said:

I'll be investigating the Litchfield warranty in a few months when my manufacturer's warranty goes away. I'll also be talking to Nissan, ofc.

As an owner I wouldn't say it's a supercar. It's un-bel-ievable to drive but it doesn't have the drama of a Pagani or Aventador etc. Its has presence, but not drama. I really consider it to be a terrifyingly fast GT with a small petrol tank

See I'd class the Pagani or Aventador as hypercars. But I'm also only doing this as part troll to reignite another 'what defines a supercar' debate.

Dont get the hypercar thing.They are all supercars,some are just faster and more expensive than others.

[WeirdNeville]

Nedzilla said:

Dont get the supercar thing.They are all cars,some are just faster and more expensive than others.

EFT.

I think the Nissan GT-R offers spectacular value for money. It always has done, even as a new purchase.

[simoid]

pilchardthecat said:

simoid said:

pilchardthecat said:

I think i would probably count myself among them, since I would define a supercar as such based on it's, erm, performance

How many Caterhams would you consider supercars?

All the ones that go 190 or 200 mph.....

So, erm, none.

So you define a supercar as one that can achieve 190mph?

Nonsense, it's so much more than that. It's got to be a car that is special. Something that probably can't be categorised.

You are confusing fast cars with supercars.

[SWoll]

Nedzilla said:

Dont get the hypercar thing.They are all supercars,some are just faster and more expensive than others.

I've always thought of supercars as having a decent level of practicality for using around town etc. and being something you could possibly park in a supermarket carpark.

Once you start getting into the realms of the Aventador, Enzo, Zonda etc that's not really possible. They are built with no compromises/practicality considered so fall into a different class for me.

[Mikeyboy]

Is this going to descend into one of those "its no Porsche" "thank god" style threads?

Anyway you look at it, it was cheaper than a porsche for twice the performance but cost twice the amount to run.
And as for the 6k service, that was I think 6k or 6 months. And that made it a very steep price to own.

[DanDC5]

k-ink said:

DanDC5 said:

Could get an independant warranty on it though. Should cover things like the potential gearbox issue.

Should being the key word. I'd only trust a main dealer warranty with zero wriggle room. I'd need it stating 100% EVERYTHING is covered, no exceptions. Otherwise no thanks, why take a risk.

I'd imagine Litchfields warranty covers everything you'd need it to. I don't know, I've not read the paperwork...

[pilchardthecat]

simoid said:

pilchardthecat said:

simoid said:

pilchardthecat said:

I think i would probably count myself among them, since I would define a supercar as such based on it's, erm, performance

How many Caterhams would you consider supercars?

All the ones that go 190 or 200 mph.....

So, erm, none.

So you define a supercar as one that can achieve 190mph?

Nonsense, it's so much more than that. It's got to be a car that is special. Something that probably can't be categorised.

You are confusing fast cars with supercars.

Of course it's more than that, but having a higher top speed than a diesel 3 series is definitely one requirement, yes. I mentioned it specifically because it's the most obvious one that prevents the Caterham R500 from being a supercar.

At no point did is claim that top speed was the only factor, that's your straw man.

[SWoll]

Mikeyboy said:

Is this going to descend into one of those "its no Porsche" "thank god" style threads?

Anyway you look at it, it was cheaper than a porsche for twice the performance but cost twice the amount to run.
And as for the 6k service, that was I think 6k or 6 months. And that made it a very steep price to own.

2011 model is 9000 or 12 months, which represents a considerable saving.

[911p]

Might seem a bargain at the moment, but in real terms they've only depreciated like anything else. Check out 2009 M3's for sale - they've depreciated just as much, and were the same price new as the GT-R at the time.

[xRIEx]

ZeeTacoe said:

SWoll said:

ZeeTacoe said:

hmmmm. I think a lot of people don't understand the difference between supercar and supercar like performance.

It has everything a supercar needs other than the badge.

Performance.
Handling.
Road presence.
Pedigree.

The engine isn't in the middle nor does it have a tiny , unusable boot at the front. It's fast but no special enough for a supercar

Why does the engine have to be in the middle for a car to qualify as a supercar?

pilchardthecat said:

simoid said:

pilchardthecat said:

I think i would probably count myself among them, since I would define a supercar as such based on it's, erm, performance

How many Caterhams would you consider supercars?

All the ones that go 190 or 200 mph.....

So, erm, none.

I reckon the Levante wouldn't be far if it wasn't limited. Or it could be geared to get there.

[simoid]

pilchardthecat said:

Of course it's more than that, but having a higher top speed than a diesel 3 series is definitely one requirement, yes. I mentioned it specifically because it's the most obvious one that prevents the Caterham R500 from being a supercar.

At no point did is claim that top speed was the only factor, that's your straw man.

Sorry, when you said: "I would define a supercar as such based on it's, erm, performance" I thought you meant you define supercars as such based on their performance.