Last normally aspirated diesel?

Last normally aspirated diesel?

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veryRS

409 posts

147 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Wafflesmk2 said:
ST220.

I change gear before 3k because i dont drive like a tt.
If you change gear before 3k all the time then two things:

1) you are using maybe 80 of the available 220 horses and
2) your engine is possibly coked up to the eyeballs and now runs like a pig.

May I humbly suggest you sell the 220st and get a 1.2 fiesta. I'm fairly sure you will be happier.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

184 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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A mate of mine drives like the gentleman above. Apparently revving "above 3000 rpm is for boy racers". He just will not believe it is bad for the engine.
So far he has killed:

Astra Mk 2 1.3
Megane Mk 1 1.4
Sunny Coupe 1.6
Sunny hatch 1.6
Primera 2.0
306 D Turbo

with his daft attitude. Trouble is he's taught his wife to drive like this now too, so she's doubling the problem.

XitUp

7,690 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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On the subject of not revving over 3k. Did you change the badge on your Mondeo to say ST100?

liller

1,151 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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I used to drive an SDI mk5 golf at work and every time I drove it I struggled to comprehend why VW still produced a non-turbo diesel. Mental.

My GF's bro then bought one recently and I swear it was sold to him as TDI but he is non the wiser as it probably doesn't bother him

vrooom

3,763 posts

269 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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I cant understand this changing 3k rpm in nice petrol engine that rev to 7k or so mentality.

Stick Legs

5,129 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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I'm a big fan of diesel in the right circumstances...


Jimmy No Hands

5,012 posts

158 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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vrooom said:
I cant understand this changing 3k rpm in nice petrol engine that rev to 7k or so mentality.
But what if the engine blows up THINK OF THE CHILDREN

Mastodon2

13,847 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Wafflesmk2 said:
ST220.

I change gear before 3k because i dont drive like a tt.
This guy has got to be a troll, or just a total spaz who somehow found his way onto Pistonheads.

Mr E

21,781 posts

261 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Tomorrow I shall attempt to drive the barge without the turbo needle moving to see if I can get my head around this mindset.

busta

4,504 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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nagsheadwarrior said:
BorkFactor said:
Am I correct in thinking the SDI engines, while being slow, are extremely reliable?

There are several Octavia SDIs used as taxis up my neck of the woods with well over 300k on them.

Anyway, this new, or expensive enough?! yikes

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
What an utterley hatefull thing,I am dismayed and depressed by the existence of that car at that price,I know some people dont care and just want economy/reliability but thats just an automotive white flag.
0-60 in:




















sixteen point seven seconds.

That's plain ridiculous.

Stick Legs

5,129 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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If you look at how diesels work best, and how we try to run them at sea we use them at 90%MCR (maximum continuous rating) which for a car diesel engine would equate to around 3900rpm.

The advantage is that they run at constant speed for days on end and this 90% MCR speed allows maximum EFFICIENCY. The maximum amount of power is extracted form each joule of energy produced and some of the latest generation low speed units are 50%+ thermally efficient.

However, for a car where the revs are very variable unless used for long distance (Lorries or long haul car drives) they are never that efficient, but still more ECONOMICAL than a petrol.

Please note the difference between economy and efficiency.

The chap earlier who runs his 3.0 petrol at <3Krpm is getting neither.

Vladimir

6,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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A simple question was asked.

OPINIONS were not sought.

Just try a little harder not to ***k up every thread that mentions the fuel that runs most of the cars sold today.

Stick Legs

5,129 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Sorry.

Wafflesmk2

1,347 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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To everyone hating on my driving style:


busta

4,504 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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I think they are 'hating on' your suggestion that reving over 3krpm constitues driving like a tt. Nobody actually cares how you choose to drive.

Fastdruid

8,718 posts

154 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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It's not so much hating it as pure bewilderment as just how much crazy you must have to buy a large, fast, expensive to run car. Then complain about how much petrol it uses while not using any of the power when that engine is tuned for maximum efficiency high in the rev range (which is different to economy).

crofty1984

15,961 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Needa308GT4 said:
having a 3.0l V6 and not going above 3k is like going to amsterdam and having a w*nk.
I'll have to steal that.

Baryonyx

18,034 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Wafflesmk2 said:
ST220.

I change gear before 3k because i dont drive like a tt.
Hand in your man card on the way out.

Mark-C

5,248 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Needa308GT4 said:
having a 3.0l V6 and not going above 3k is like going to amsterdam and having a w*nk.
Cheers .... coffee on keyboard.

Vaguely on topic ... I had no idea non-turbo D engines were so recent.

Fastdruid

8,718 posts

154 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Baryonyx said:
Wafflesmk2 said:
ST220.

I change gear before 3k because i dont drive like a tt.
Hand in your man card on the way out.
Man card? My 8 months pregnant wife driving very carefully uses more than 3k...