Cars with faults that put you off buying them...
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If I buy a car with a known weakness, then I put the amount for rectifying that issue in a savings account. Then when I sell and replace it with a new car, if the money hasn't been spent it gets added to the budget. Doing that, so far I've never had to spend the "safety" money despite having owned supposedly unreliable cars, but purchased cars that were cheaper than competition because they're meant to be unreliable. Long live the myths of unreliability, means my cars are cheaper than they should be!
If I buy a car with a known weakness, then I put the amount for rectifying that issue in a savings account. Then when I sell and replace it with a new car, if the money hasn't been spent it gets added to the budget. Doing that, so far I've never had to spend the "safety" money despite having owned supposedly unreliable cars, but purchased cars that were cheaper than competition because they're meant to be unreliable. Long live the myths of unreliability, means my cars are cheaper than they should be!
The car I drive suffers from;
- Porous cylinder head.
- Faulty traction control.
- Disintegrating flywheel.
- Dodgy electrics.
- 'Weak' turbo.
Of course after 50,000 miles the only things have actually gone wrong are the battery (replaced under warranty), a blocked rear washer (cleared with a pin) and the inability of one of neighbours to judge gaps (or leave their details).
But mark my words, one day it's going to go bang and take out a entire school full of sweet innocent children who had everything to live for, then I'll be sorry I ever bought it.
- Porous cylinder head.
- Faulty traction control.
- Disintegrating flywheel.
- Dodgy electrics.
- 'Weak' turbo.
Of course after 50,000 miles the only things have actually gone wrong are the battery (replaced under warranty), a blocked rear washer (cleared with a pin) and the inability of one of neighbours to judge gaps (or leave their details).
But mark my words, one day it's going to go bang and take out a entire school full of sweet innocent children who had everything to live for, then I'll be sorry I ever bought it.
GoodDoc said:
The car I drive suffers from;
- Porous cylinder head.
- Faulty traction control.
- Disintegrating flywheel.
- Dodgy electrics.
- 'Weak' turbo.
Of course after 50,000 miles the only things have actually gone wrong are the battery (replaced under warranty), a blocked rear washer (cleared with a pin) and the inability of one of neighbours to judge gaps (or leave their details).
But mark my words, one day it's going to go bang and take out a entire school full of sweet innocent children who had everything to live for, then I'll be sorry I ever bought it.
[Clicks profile and checks for garage]- Porous cylinder head.
- Faulty traction control.
- Disintegrating flywheel.
- Dodgy electrics.
- 'Weak' turbo.
Of course after 50,000 miles the only things have actually gone wrong are the battery (replaced under warranty), a blocked rear washer (cleared with a pin) and the inability of one of neighbours to judge gaps (or leave their details).
But mark my words, one day it's going to go bang and take out a entire school full of sweet innocent children who had everything to live for, then I'll be sorry I ever bought it.
Pray tell, sir, what heap of s
t are you driving?
Known problems require perspective. K series HGF and Pork IMS. Yep, no denying it happens, but the internet exaggerates those reports. For the hundreds of thousands of Boxsters sold and a similar amount of cars that run a K, there are relatively few very vocal failures. It's just that the rest of them without failures aren't on the internet saying how great they are.
That said, you don't ignore the issues when you buy them. So for example I made sure my Cayman was a 2007+ car (as that's when they addressed the issue). That's also not to say that it's cured on these cars or that there are not some pretty piss poor design features of them.., but I don't have enough paranoia about it to have a extended warranty. It's a nearly new car FFS. How many cars of this sort of vintage do you know of personally where the engine has let go? I'm not talking about tracking the st out of them with slicks on, I'm talking about properly maintained road going cars...
Also my brother has an old Elise. You would believe that the K in it was the sword of Damocles hanging over your head. It's used regularly and without fear and has been for 12 years with not a jot of trouble. Conversely I have a 19 year old Merc 190E. Hewn from granite, the last of the properly built Mercedes. Had to replace the head gasket on that a couple of years ago.
A lot of it is unwarranted. Apart from the TVR Speed Six engine... I know of too many people who've had eye watering bills and issues with that lump. Still doesn't stop me wanting a Tuscan II Convertible... So very badly.
That said, you don't ignore the issues when you buy them. So for example I made sure my Cayman was a 2007+ car (as that's when they addressed the issue). That's also not to say that it's cured on these cars or that there are not some pretty piss poor design features of them.., but I don't have enough paranoia about it to have a extended warranty. It's a nearly new car FFS. How many cars of this sort of vintage do you know of personally where the engine has let go? I'm not talking about tracking the s
t out of them with slicks on, I'm talking about properly maintained road going cars...Also my brother has an old Elise. You would believe that the K in it was the sword of Damocles hanging over your head. It's used regularly and without fear and has been for 12 years with not a jot of trouble. Conversely I have a 19 year old Merc 190E. Hewn from granite, the last of the properly built Mercedes. Had to replace the head gasket on that a couple of years ago.
A lot of it is unwarranted. Apart from the TVR Speed Six engine... I know of too many people who've had eye watering bills and issues with that lump. Still doesn't stop me wanting a Tuscan II Convertible... So very badly.
Edited by juansolo on Sunday 29th April 08:44
Well, I ran two different TVRs. Everybody told me they were unreliable. They weren't.
When I needed a milemuncher, nobody told me how expensive an Audi would be when the Multitronic gearbox threw its toys out of the pram. Had I known, I probably wouldn't have bought... Now, I'm sort-of-stuck-with-it on the basis of intending to get my money's worth over the next 50-100k.
When I needed a milemuncher, nobody told me how expensive an Audi would be when the Multitronic gearbox threw its toys out of the pram. Had I known, I probably wouldn't have bought... Now, I'm sort-of-stuck-with-it on the basis of intending to get my money's worth over the next 50-100k.
I asked if a 996 / Cayman would be ok to run from 50k to 150k miles over 5 years without expecting major bills and and was told "No". Not even looked since.
The bore scoring wear issues took / are taking too long to resolve.
I have only ever had one completely reliable car. It was a TVR Chimaera 500 that I had for 3 years.
The bore scoring wear issues took / are taking too long to resolve.
I have only ever had one completely reliable car. It was a TVR Chimaera 500 that I had for 3 years.
These threads remind that, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing and that ignorance is indeed bliss.
I'm exactly the same though sold my e46 as soon as the warranty ran out due to the "dreaded" vanos issue, when in reality I should have kept it.
As more often than not you drop a hell of a lot more on the depreciation of the replacement car than it costs to put the money aside to fix the issue should it happen.
chris432626 said:
I've been put off numerous cars by comments from "experts".
The latest is a 10k 6 series, they apparently suffer with plastic bits cracking and screwing the car. Also various e39 gearbox problems, vanos, swirl flaps etc etc.
Still looking for the perfect 10k car!
The latest is a 10k 6 series, they apparently suffer with plastic bits cracking and screwing the car. Also various e39 gearbox problems, vanos, swirl flaps etc etc.
Still looking for the perfect 10k car!
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Pints said:
GoodDoc said:
The car I drive suffers from;
- Porous cylinder head.
- Faulty traction control.
- Disintegrating flywheel.
- Dodgy electrics.
- 'Weak' turbo.
Of course after 50,000 miles the only things have actually gone wrong are the battery (replaced under warranty), a blocked rear washer (cleared with a pin) and the inability of one of neighbours to judge gaps (or leave their details).
But mark my words, one day it's going to go bang and take out a entire school full of sweet innocent children who had everything to live for, then I'll be sorry I ever bought it.
[Clicks profile and checks for garage]- Porous cylinder head.
- Faulty traction control.
- Disintegrating flywheel.
- Dodgy electrics.
- 'Weak' turbo.
Of course after 50,000 miles the only things have actually gone wrong are the battery (replaced under warranty), a blocked rear washer (cleared with a pin) and the inability of one of neighbours to judge gaps (or leave their details).
But mark my words, one day it's going to go bang and take out a entire school full of sweet innocent children who had everything to live for, then I'll be sorry I ever bought it.
Pray tell, sir, what heap of s
t are you driving?To be fair my car has the poor mans traction control which doesn't fail like the more advanced system does, and mine doesn't have a DPF, but if you look hard enough you will find that someone somewhere has had a problem with every car.
So far it's done 50,000 miles and still going strong, and if I paid much attention to every problem reported I wouldn't have bought my Audi A6, my Volvo Amazon, or my Porsche 912. Annoyingly, they were right about the steering rack on my Jaguar XJ40. Man that was expensive!
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