RE: PH Blog: has Zagato finally lost it?
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Not all Zagato designs haver been great, but I think the great majority of the early ones (up to, say, the beginning of the 70s) were pretty much spot on. Since then, it's been one or two hits (V8 Vantage Zagato - not the convertible though, Alfa SZ, Lancia Hyena) and a whole string of ugly misses (that hideous Alfa Romeo TZ3 thing, the Nissan Autech Stelvio, etc).
Today's Zagato is not the Zagato of the '50s and '60s either, with designers dead or moved on for other reasons and them allowing their name on designs they did not themselves pen (Aston Martin V12 Vantage Zagato).
Today's Zagato is not the Zagato of the '50s and '60s either, with designers dead or moved on for other reasons and them allowing their name on designs they did not themselves pen (Aston Martin V12 Vantage Zagato).
DanDC5 said:
I think if a smaller bodyshop that specialised in modified cars in this country were to do similar thiings to the DB7 for example, they'd get ripped into without question. Sees the name helps Zagato get off quite lightly.
Same could be said of BMW tbh but yep you're quite right....trashbat said:
Coo-er.I'd agree that Zagato's efforts are rather hit-and-miss but when they get it right they do a hell of a job.
I really like the Hyena and the DB7 but I've never liked the 80's Zagato Aston. Their formula does seem a little lazy sometimes.
Edited by rohrl on Thursday 31st May 12:05
garypotter said:
Hey S10 GTA the botom picture - is that an AC or an old corvette? or none of the above please
Its one of the new interpretations of a Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, was basically a rebodied cobra to beat the 250 GTO at Le Mans etc. Superperformance or something similar I think the replicas are called, Shelby endorsed and I think Pete Brock helped with development. All the want....German said:
garypotter said:
Hey S10 GTA the botom picture - is that an AC or an old corvette? or none of the above please
Its one of the new interpretations of a Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, was basically a rebodied cobra to beat the 250 GTO at Le Mans etc. Superperformance or something similar I think the replicas are called, Shelby endorsed and I think Pete Brock helped with development. All the want....S10 GTA said:
German said:
garypotter said:
Hey S10 GTA the botom picture - is that an AC or an old corvette? or none of the above please
Its one of the new interpretations of a Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, was basically a rebodied cobra to beat the 250 GTO at Le Mans etc. Superperformance or something similar I think the replicas are called, Shelby endorsed and I think Pete Brock helped with development. All the want....Would soon be followed by this as a less valuable daily
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3906470.htm
BMW and Zagato are the perfect pairing.... they both hit and miss in equal measure. New BMW 1, eye wateringly bad front end, and flabby arse, the new 5, looks great to my eye.
Now if between then them they could pick the good designs of each, they'd be on to a winner.
I must admit I dont mind the look of the Z4 Zagato, but I suspect it starts to look a bit awkward at the rear, the rear arch and side window alone look a bit naff
Now if between then them they could pick the good designs of each, they'd be on to a winner.
I must admit I dont mind the look of the Z4 Zagato, but I suspect it starts to look a bit awkward at the rear, the rear arch and side window alone look a bit naff
DanDC5 said:
WorAl said:
Hold on chaps, you can't possibly say that all Zagato stuff is hideous. I'm not a fan of the majority of their equipment but when I see these sort of images, it makes me feel like interfering with myself until I can't touch it any more.
http://www.netcarshow.com/aston_martin/2002-db7_va...
I shall reply to that with this picture -http://www.netcarshow.com/aston_martin/2002-db7_va...
Edited by WorAl on Thursday 31st May 10:36
And then proceed to point out that at no time in human history, has anyone ever been more wrong than you are now
Especially with the new V12
Zagato are marmite, but most affective when they have free reign.
Love or hate the SZ, "il monstro" is one hell of a design statement. AM Zagato was also a significant departure from the standard car at the time.
Their recent efforts seem too safe - or hampered by the corporate branding of the base manufacturer - apart from adding the double-bubble and tweaking the lights...worked for the AM DBZ tho.
Love or hate the SZ, "il monstro" is one hell of a design statement. AM Zagato was also a significant departure from the standard car at the time.
Their recent efforts seem too safe - or hampered by the corporate branding of the base manufacturer - apart from adding the double-bubble and tweaking the lights...worked for the AM DBZ tho.
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