RE: PH Fleet: BMW 328i (E36)
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E46's are pennies these days, a 328 e46 is around a grand or so from what i've seen. are they any cheaper to run? stiffer?
I love my e46 330i, it is a lovely cruiser and the engine really is a peach. it's an auto but is a really nice box, if a little slow to react if you're trying to move a little more sprightly than usual.
I love my e46 330i, it is a lovely cruiser and the engine really is a peach. it's an auto but is a really nice box, if a little slow to react if you're trying to move a little more sprightly than usual.
I've never quite understood using cars like this as track toys, aren't they a bit dull for that? Or is it purely that they're cheap and plentiful (hence cheap to fix)?
And yes, I'm an E36 328i owner. It's a comfortable, practical, cheap daily with enough ability to be hustled along at a reasonable pace when you want to, but I never take it out just for the sake of going for a drive.
And yes, I'm an E36 328i owner. It's a comfortable, practical, cheap daily with enough ability to be hustled along at a reasonable pace when you want to, but I never take it out just for the sake of going for a drive.
ecksjay said:
E46's are pennies these days, a 328 e46 is around a grand or so from what i've seen. are they any cheaper to run? stiffer?
I love my e46 330i, it is a lovely cruiser and the engine really is a peach. it's an auto but is a really nice box, if a little slow to react if you're trying to move a little more sprightly than usual.
The E46 is a lovely car but its heavier which is why the e36 is the car of choice here.I love my e46 330i, it is a lovely cruiser and the engine really is a peach. it's an auto but is a really nice box, if a little slow to react if you're trying to move a little more sprightly than usual.
I was seriously impressed with the driving. Bet the chap in the M3 was gutted and the guys in the GT2 and GT3 must have had a shock to see it staying with them.
Think you need to lose the 328 badge and replace with 320 or 318 for the ultimate sleeper look!
Maldini35 said:
I wouldn't so sure it's that far off the budget as we don't know what Dale spent on the mods and he'll need new rubber soon by the sound of it. A race seat and belts will probably follow soon to...
The e30 in the pic comes with a full spares package including a rebuilt 2.5l engine all for £3500.
Hard to argue with that.
Indeed. The e30 in the pic comes with a full spares package including a rebuilt 2.5l engine all for £3500.
Hard to argue with that.
great idea! much better than the rotary ring tool!
cheap to buy, cheap to mod and even cheaper for repairs if/when u bin it.
Also, from the video it sounds like theres a wheel bearing or somethin howling away, could just be road noise but has a definite howl in background.
keep us updated on the next steps for the beemer!
cheap to buy, cheap to mod and even cheaper for repairs if/when u bin it.
Also, from the video it sounds like theres a wheel bearing or somethin howling away, could just be road noise but has a definite howl in background.
keep us updated on the next steps for the beemer!
red997 said:
one question - how can the 4 door chassis be stiffer than the coupe ?
doesn't seem to add up - and surely the coupe is lighter ?
not trying to needle, just inquisitive !
I loved my E38 328 - first proper RWD car I owned
never had a FWD since
Very large frameless doors & opening on the coupe is the theory. The two smaller door openings with the thick pillar in between adds strength just near the driver so may well feel better. doesn't seem to add up - and surely the coupe is lighter ?
not trying to needle, just inquisitive !
I loved my E38 328 - first proper RWD car I owned
never had a FWD since
jaik said:
I've never quite understood using cars like this as track toys, aren't they a bit dull for that? Or is it purely that they're cheap and plentiful (hence cheap to fix)?
And yes, I'm an E36 328i owner. It's a comfortable, practical, cheap daily with enough ability to be hustled along at a reasonable pace when you want to, but I never take it out just for the sake of going for a drive.
Probably that they are cheap, not slow and RWD.And yes, I'm an E36 328i owner. It's a comfortable, practical, cheap daily with enough ability to be hustled along at a reasonable pace when you want to, but I never take it out just for the sake of going for a drive.
I had a 328 Sport and I'd generally agree, its a little too refined as a hooning toy.
Maldini35 said:
Great choice. Old 3 series make the best track cars.
If anybody wants a cheap but sorted E30 track car, there are a few very good cars for sale from the Production BMW Championship (PBMW) at the moment. £3k will get you a classic shaped 320i with full roll cage, race spec suspension, brakes and tyres.
Cheap RWD fun.
Oh, great. You just cost me about three grand, thanks for that... If anybody wants a cheap but sorted E30 track car, there are a few very good cars for sale from the Production BMW Championship (PBMW) at the moment. £3k will get you a classic shaped 320i with full roll cage, race spec suspension, brakes and tyres.
Cheap RWD fun.
Great fun on a little budget.
Couple of questions to throw out there...
1. I hear of a lot of people taking the 328I shell and fitting M3 running gear? yes a lot of time but to what benefit? I would have thought the M3 e36 would be as strong poss lighter once stripped?
2. the 3.0 M3 has a LSD does the 328I have one fitted as standard?
Couple of questions to throw out there...
1. I hear of a lot of people taking the 328I shell and fitting M3 running gear? yes a lot of time but to what benefit? I would have thought the M3 e36 would be as strong poss lighter once stripped?
2. the 3.0 M3 has a LSD does the 328I have one fitted as standard?
duckhunt said:
No, I think 99% of them are 2.91 open diffs.
Not so, if you get lucky you can find one that has a friction clutch-type LSD as standard. An original 328i Sport model that has no traction control should have an LSD, but they come in wildly varying states of wear and aren't that good.The M3 ones have a similar issue, with the friction cones wearing out, so.. The diff of choice for these is the Quaife one, which I think can still be had for a grand or so.
chilled said:
red997 said:
one question - how can the 4 door chassis be stiffer than the coupe ?
doesn't seem to add up - and surely the coupe is lighter ?
not trying to needle, just inquisitive !
I loved my E38 328 - first proper RWD car I owned
never had a FWD since
Very large frameless doors & opening on the coupe is the theory. The two smaller door openings with the thick pillar in between adds strength just near the driver so may well feel better. doesn't seem to add up - and surely the coupe is lighter ?
not trying to needle, just inquisitive !
I loved my E38 328 - first proper RWD car I owned
never had a FWD since
jaik said:
I've never quite understood using cars like this as track toys, aren't they a bit dull for that? Or is it purely that they're cheap and plentiful (hence cheap to fix)?
And yes, I'm an E36 328i owner. It's a comfortable, practical, cheap daily with enough ability to be hustled along at a reasonable pace when you want to, but I never take it out just for the sake of going for a drive.
I have a 328 I use for track days. To be honest I even enjoyed driving my Vectra on track and the 328 is a big step up from that. Yes there are better cars but everything is a balance, I really enjoy it so why spend more? I do hope one day to 'upgrade' but at the moment I'm happy as I am...And yes, I'm an E36 328i owner. It's a comfortable, practical, cheap daily with enough ability to be hustled along at a reasonable pace when you want to, but I never take it out just for the sake of going for a drive.
Edited by varsas on Tuesday 9th October 18:54
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