RE: Facelifted R8 vs 991 Carrera 4

[Digga]

In the mid 1970's our next door neighbour was a young, dashing batchellor and serial Porsche owner.

The last car I remember he had, before we moved away, was a brown Carrera. Top marks to Porsche for breaking from the white hegemony. The 991 wears the colour well IMHO. Just needs an 8 track.

[Dave Hedgehog]

VAG dont care which one you buy, they get your money

[StottyZr]

sgq89 said:

foxhounduk said:

Neither. GTR will eat them both at a fraction of the cost. 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. (spare me the 'it's not exotic enough' rhetoric - a GTR has so much swagger and pedigree its oozing it)

Yeah but...its a Nissan. Doesn't matter if it does 0-60 in 1 second, its a Nissan. I don't want a Nissan on my drive.

You shop at waitrose don't you?

[sgq89]

raptor600 said:

sgq89 said:

But if youre spending £60k - £120k on a car, then yes, I'd want something abit more special than a Nissan.

So you don't think it's special 'because it's a Nissan'.

So it is totally to do with the brand. As I said - have you even been in or driven one?

Yes, I have. Good, fun, very quick. I still dont want one. Although to be honest, you could take the badge off and stick a bugatti badge on, I still wouldnt buy one, it looks huge, not a very elegant shape. Why are you getting so upset that I don't want your car? Plenty of people wouldn't like mine, this does not bother me.

[raptor600]

sgq89 said:

Yes, I have. Good, fun, very quick. I still dont want one. Although to be honest, you could take the badge off and stick a bugatti badge on, I still wouldnt buy one, it looks huge, not a very elegant shape. Why are you getting so upset that I don't want your car? Plenty of people wouldn't like mine, this does not bother me.

I'm not upset

It just boggles me someone could say "I don't want one, it's a Nissan" - regardless of how good a car it is. Afterall, this is a car enthusiasts forum.

[sgq89]

StottyZr said:

sgq89 said:

foxhounduk said:

Neither. GTR will eat them both at a fraction of the cost. 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. (spare me the 'it's not exotic enough' rhetoric - a GTR has so much swagger and pedigree its oozing it)

Yeah but...its a Nissan. Doesn't matter if it does 0-60 in 1 second, its a Nissan. I don't want a Nissan on my drive.

You shop at waitrose don't you?

I do yes, and Selfridges. I have a Bang & Olufsen tv too, does this annoy you also? Sorry that I have nice stuff. I'll put it all in a skip and head down to pound land, maybe I'll see you in there, you can introduce yourself in person.

[sgq89]

raptor600 said:

sgq89 said:

Yes, I have. Good, fun, very quick. I still dont want one. Although to be honest, you could take the badge off and stick a bugatti badge on, I still wouldnt buy one, it looks huge, not a very elegant shape. Why are you getting so upset that I don't want your car? Plenty of people wouldn't like mine, this does not bother me.

I'm not upset

It just boggles me someone could say "I don't want one, it's a Nissan" - regardless of how good a car it is. Afterall, this is a car enthusiasts forum.

To be honest, I am completely aware that everyone has different opinions and wants different things. But you did call me a "willy waving tosser", what sort of response do you expect?

[tommy vercetti]

I do like the R8, I think it is a pretty special car, but the 911, even though I'm not its biggest fan in the world, just appeals more to me out of the two.

[HighwayStar]

StottyZr said:

sgq89 said:

foxhounduk said:

Neither. GTR will eat them both at a fraction of the cost. 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. (spare me the 'it's not exotic enough' rhetoric - a GTR has so much swagger and pedigree its oozing it)

Yeah but...its a Nissan. Doesn't matter if it does 0-60 in 1 second, its a Nissan. I don't want a Nissan on my drive.

You shop at waitrose don't you?

:lol: You just know it don't you… but he is free to like/have whatever he likes. I agree with him in not understanding why people get so wound up about other people's opinions or what they chose to by.
And yes I can see you ceased the opportunity for a lil wind up.

Edited by HighwayStar on Friday 26th October 15:49

[raptor600]

sgq89 said:

To be honest, I am completely aware that everyone has different opinions and wants different things. But you did call me a "willy waving tosser", what sort of response do you expect?

I said that in response to your comment that you wouldn't buy it "because it is a Nissan".

I still stand by the fact that to come out with that, it is highly likely, you are a willy waving tosser.

Don't take me too seriously though...I don't

[sgq89]

raptor600 said:

sgq89 said:

To be honest, I am completely aware that everyone has different opinions and wants different things. But you did call me a "willy waving tosser", what sort of response do you expect?

I said that in response to your comment that you wouldn't buy it "because it is a Nissan".

I still stand by the fact that to come out with that, it is highly likely, you are a willy waving tosser.

Don't take me too seriously though...I don't

I'm a tosser because a don't want to sepnd 60 grand on a Nissan? You're a tosser because...you're a tosser.

[raptor600]

EFA

sgq89 said:

I'm a willy waving tosser because a don't want to sepnd 60 grand on a Nissan? You're a tosser because...you're a tosser.

[RenesisEvo]

My initial post has vanished... I would choose a Carrera 2 over a 4 (for reasons discussed in a previous PH article), but for R8 vs Carrera 4, I'd be very tempted to go for the Audi, to me it seems more 'supercar' than a high-grade Porsche 'sportscar'. A totally subjective and vague reason, but I'm sure plenty of cars have been bought and sold on the strength of less. But I'm never going to be in the position to chose.

[sgq89]

raptor600 said:

EFA

sgq89 said:

I'm a willy waving tosser because a don't want to sepnd 60 grand on a Nissan? You're a tosser because...you're a tosser.

I bet you spend your friday and saturday nights playing Gran Turismo.

[SlipStream77]

Soovy said:

£121K on a non turbo 911?

Have a word with yourself!!!


You can get an approved 599GTB for that, and have £10k change.

Edited by Soovy on Friday 26th October 14:43

That does put it into perspective, in this case I'd probably go for a 430 Scuderia.

[raptor600]

sgq89 said:

I bet you spend your friday and saturday nights playing Gran Turismo.

Not really - I have the real thing...which I bought because I liked it - not because of what my friends would think about the badge.

Anyway, don't want to take up anymore time clogging the thread.

I just think it's a shame when someone is so blinded by a badge (probably through ignorance as the GT-R brand has been around and competing in motorsport for longer than most).

And I would pick the R8 over the 4S.

[fastgerman]

raptor600 said:

Please keep this going! My Friday is flying by :-).

I thought this was 911 vs R8? The Datsun always gets brought up on any Porsche topic...

[sgq89]

raptor600 said:

sgq89 said:

I bet you spend your friday and saturday nights playing Gran Turismo.

Not really - I have the real thing...which I bought because I liked it - not because of what my friends would think about the badge.

You don't have any friends, you're too preoccupied with your car. Making sure its nice and cleannnn. Make sure you've got all the settings set just right! Keep checking the G-meter reading, see what you can get! I on the other hand, will be out with my mates.

[thepony]

Tough choice .... I would rather have a Porsche 911 (991) Carrera 2S Coupe ....

[tommy vercetti]

sgq89 said:

raptor600 said:

sgq89 said:

I bet you spend your friday and saturday nights playing Gran Turismo.

Not really - I have the real thing...which I bought because I liked it - not because of what my friends would think about the badge.

You don't have any friends, you're too preoccupied with your car. Making sure its nice and cleannnn. Make sure you've got all the settings set just right! Keep checking the G-meter reading, see what you can get! I on the other hand, will be out with my mates.

Chill out, your just making yourself look like a bit of a knob