Aggressive police driving
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namelogin said:
Im struggling to believe these stories about unmarked cars goading people.
Why would an unmarked car need to goad anyone? Just drive normally and im pretty sure you could find someone doing something wrong legitimately in about 5 minutes, if my driving experiances are anything to go by, and judging by the amount of idiots on the roads these days.
I think there's just a lot of people that try to shove the blame away from themselves.
"Why would an unmarked car need to goad anyone?"Why would an unmarked car need to goad anyone? Just drive normally and im pretty sure you could find someone doing something wrong legitimately in about 5 minutes, if my driving experiances are anything to go by, and judging by the amount of idiots on the roads these days.
I think there's just a lot of people that try to shove the blame away from themselves.
I really wish I knew, as it was fecking annoying (and not to mention, pretty dangerous) when it happened to me.
But as I say, I didn't fall for it so that pretty much pisses on your theory about trying to "shove the blame away from themselves".
namelogin said:
Im struggling to believe these stories about unmarked cars goading people.
Why would an unmarked car need to goad anyone? Just drive normally and im pretty sure you could find someone doing something wrong legitimately in about 5 minutes, if my driving experiances are anything to go by, and judging by the amount of idiots on the roads these days.
I think there's just a lot of people that try to shove the blame away from themselves.
You're right - I just made this up because I'm lonely and I need to find my voice. I'm also to blame for cars following too closely - I have an optional gravity well attached to my rear bumper.Why would an unmarked car need to goad anyone? Just drive normally and im pretty sure you could find someone doing something wrong legitimately in about 5 minutes, if my driving experiances are anything to go by, and judging by the amount of idiots on the roads these days.
I think there's just a lot of people that try to shove the blame away from themselves.
Just to be clear, the car "goading me" last night was not unmarked! I caught a glimpse of what I thought was a "police" sticker across the front bonnet but couldn't be sure (street lights were off and he was very close). It was only when he turned off that I knew for sure.
Either way, I find it baffling that they can do this as if the boot was on the other foot, I'd be stopped!
Either way, I find it baffling that they can do this as if the boot was on the other foot, I'd be stopped!
On the few occasions when I have been stopped and felt the police officer is being unreasonable, I have stood my ground and argued my case, from the driving seat. Successfully. (So far . . . ).
This even included the time when I explained to the police driver of an unmarked white Volvo in Northampton that I had cut sharply across his bows when turning left from a right-hand lane because his appalling driving had prevented me from changing lanes beforehand in an appropriate way.
He was also told, firmly, that he was very much mistaken when he then accused me of crossing a red light at an earlier junction.
I believed I was really on thin ice, but he backed down on all counts and was smiling as we parted.
And I am slightly built, clean shaven and was a mere bank employee at the time (in a non-PH Peugeot 405).
So, MTFU if you feel you are being bullied! It has worked for me!
This even included the time when I explained to the police driver of an unmarked white Volvo in Northampton that I had cut sharply across his bows when turning left from a right-hand lane because his appalling driving had prevented me from changing lanes beforehand in an appropriate way.
He was also told, firmly, that he was very much mistaken when he then accused me of crossing a red light at an earlier junction.
I believed I was really on thin ice, but he backed down on all counts and was smiling as we parted.
And I am slightly built, clean shaven and was a mere bank employee at the time (in a non-PH Peugeot 405).
So, MTFU if you feel you are being bullied! It has worked for me!
I have been unfortunate enough to experience a similar thing with BiB, but on an unlit rural road in a 40mph limit at night.
Exiting a village with street lights in a 30, goes to countryside road in a 40 limit (bendy road, foot paths either side). The Police must have seen me in the village and thought I was up to no good (respectable enough white VW van, no rust or dodgy-ness about it) so started following me. I the car took a while to catch up, and in my wingmirrors it was impossible to see that it was a marked Police car.
As I continued along the 40 limit, at 40, the copper got closer and closer, to the point where I started feeling uncomfortable with it - IE could only see the silhouette of the back of his car in my mirrors. I accelerated to 45, then 50 but did not go any faster because it was getting ridiculous, and too much above the speed limit for my liking.
We eventually came to a car park at the side of the road (for a tourist attraction) with one entrance, and one 'no entry' exit. I darted into the exit to try to the get this guy off my rear bumber as soon as possible and proceeded to park in one of the spaces. The car then drove up behind me when I was parked and stopped with full beams on very close to where I had parked, so I could not drive away.
At this point alarm bells were ringing and I thought I was going to get mugged or beaten up. I left my Mrs in the van with the keys and told her to lock the doors whilst I stepped outside to see what the problem was.
As I stepped out the car and squinted my eyes I could see 'Police' written on the bonnet of a local-bobby's Rav4, and I was so relieved that I wasn't about to get beaten up or mugged.
I spoke to the policeman, who checked for MOT, insurance, tax, license, etc etc and explained to him the bizzare situation I found myself tangled up in, having broken the law twice to try to 'get away' from him. I told him I thought he was someone who was out to mug me etc. He wasn't apologetic, but was nice enough to understand my point of view and instead of giving me a fine, gave me a producer. When mentioned about how close he was following me, he did not reply.
Strange eh?
Exiting a village with street lights in a 30, goes to countryside road in a 40 limit (bendy road, foot paths either side). The Police must have seen me in the village and thought I was up to no good (respectable enough white VW van, no rust or dodgy-ness about it) so started following me. I the car took a while to catch up, and in my wingmirrors it was impossible to see that it was a marked Police car.
As I continued along the 40 limit, at 40, the copper got closer and closer, to the point where I started feeling uncomfortable with it - IE could only see the silhouette of the back of his car in my mirrors. I accelerated to 45, then 50 but did not go any faster because it was getting ridiculous, and too much above the speed limit for my liking.
We eventually came to a car park at the side of the road (for a tourist attraction) with one entrance, and one 'no entry' exit. I darted into the exit to try to the get this guy off my rear bumber as soon as possible and proceeded to park in one of the spaces. The car then drove up behind me when I was parked and stopped with full beams on very close to where I had parked, so I could not drive away.
At this point alarm bells were ringing and I thought I was going to get mugged or beaten up. I left my Mrs in the van with the keys and told her to lock the doors whilst I stepped outside to see what the problem was.
As I stepped out the car and squinted my eyes I could see 'Police' written on the bonnet of a local-bobby's Rav4, and I was so relieved that I wasn't about to get beaten up or mugged.
I spoke to the policeman, who checked for MOT, insurance, tax, license, etc etc and explained to him the bizzare situation I found myself tangled up in, having broken the law twice to try to 'get away' from him. I told him I thought he was someone who was out to mug me etc. He wasn't apologetic, but was nice enough to understand my point of view and instead of giving me a fine, gave me a producer. When mentioned about how close he was following me, he did not reply.
Strange eh?
I had the same once
It was about 11am and I was driving home through the less trodden back lanes in the New Forest. From nowhere I have car right up my arse and being younger I decided I wasn't going to put up with this and put my foot down to gain a bit of distance. After a mile or so of high speed action, on came the blue lights and we stop for a chat.
He wanted to know why I was driving so fast, so I explained that it was because he was driving dangerously close and there was nowhere to stop - after all, I thought a country nutter was chasing me!
I got an apology and an admission that he was in the wrong! Had a chat over a fag and off he went, I got the impression that he was bored rigid.
Also reminds me of the time I was pulled for having a bulb out at the back. Fair enough, it was blown and I needed a new one. He then started the "this is how I intend to deal with it" line, which I assumed meant I would be leaving with a piece of paper and probably a wallet raping. So I point out the blown headlight on his Senator and without saying another word to me, he gets back in it and drives off!
It was about 11am and I was driving home through the less trodden back lanes in the New Forest. From nowhere I have car right up my arse and being younger I decided I wasn't going to put up with this and put my foot down to gain a bit of distance. After a mile or so of high speed action, on came the blue lights and we stop for a chat.
He wanted to know why I was driving so fast, so I explained that it was because he was driving dangerously close and there was nowhere to stop - after all, I thought a country nutter was chasing me!
I got an apology and an admission that he was in the wrong! Had a chat over a fag and off he went, I got the impression that he was bored rigid.
Also reminds me of the time I was pulled for having a bulb out at the back. Fair enough, it was blown and I needed a new one. He then started the "this is how I intend to deal with it" line, which I assumed meant I would be leaving with a piece of paper and probably a wallet raping. So I point out the blown headlight on his Senator and without saying another word to me, he gets back in it and drives off!
got goaded on tue on way home car in front doing 50 so overtook with indicator on pulled back in to watch a 4X4 overtake 3 cars then get behind me and follow me for 5 miles so close i had to put rear view mirror up as dazzling.Then he overtakes me revealing marked x5-no indication on either overtake and neither when he pulled into local police station-nob!Fairly obvious he was trying to bait me
martin
martin
Been goaded, as have a lot of people I know.
Not nice, very dangerous and one day they will try it on with someone without many brain cells who will brake test them properly. Me? I find that the lightest of touches on the break pedal with the left foot works wonders, but don't try this is you are not used to it as you will get rear ended.
They are of course just doing their job and making sure that they have read your registration plate properly.
Play the game and you can tell your mates about it with a smile. Fail to play the game and end up feeling bitter and twisted. I'd rather the former as at least I don't have to deal with Untermenschen on a daily basis for a living.
Not nice, very dangerous and one day they will try it on with someone without many brain cells who will brake test them properly. Me? I find that the lightest of touches on the break pedal with the left foot works wonders, but don't try this is you are not used to it as you will get rear ended.
They are of course just doing their job and making sure that they have read your registration plate properly.
Play the game and you can tell your mates about it with a smile. Fail to play the game and end up feeling bitter and twisted. I'd rather the former as at least I don't have to deal with Untermenschen on a daily basis for a living.
jimbobsimmonds said:
How would claiming you felt intimidated and in fear of your own safety go down if you gunned it away?
Badly usually. They will wind you up about 'if I was really that close how could you not tell I was a Police Car' and similar from what I have heard said to friends. You may get done, you may just be made to feel very uncomfortable for a bit.The only Police I have ever seen do this are the small minority of morons who slip through the net. I would be stunned if anyone from traffic ever tried this with a 'normal' MOP. Board PC in a backwater late on a Wednesday evening, feeling all powerful? oh
I was always sceptical about stories like this but not any more - it happened to me. In a Caterham, 40 limit; police car appears behind - am doing 35-40 - and he looked in a hurry.Flicked lh indiactor to show I'd seen him and facilitate being overtaken. Then the idiocy started - the car stuck itself almost literally to my boot- less than 3 ' away and repeatedly veered out to middle of road but would not overtake - despite road being clear. I slowed down even more - he stayed riveted to back of my car; this lasted aboput 3/4 mile and then the b
d turned off. He was so close and I was so furious that I didn't get his reg number- but I did notice it was driven by one person with no passengers I could see. I made a formal complaint to Chief Constable and after a month was told they could not trace who had been driving. I did not believe them and told them so.I am absolutely not against the police but let's just say my respect for them took a massive dive after this episode- the whole thing was clearly an attempt to goad me into breaking the limit and I wish I had followed the guy to get his ID.
d turned off. He was so close and I was so furious that I didn't get his reg number- but I did notice it was driven by one person with no passengers I could see. I made a formal complaint to Chief Constable and after a month was told they could not trace who had been driving. I did not believe them and told them so.I am absolutely not against the police but let's just say my respect for them took a massive dive after this episode- the whole thing was clearly an attempt to goad me into breaking the limit and I wish I had followed the guy to get his ID. 53 posts in a short period of time suggests this is no isolated incident- but no comment from PH's resident traffpol. Is there some other reason we don't understand why police in marked and unmarked cars are being regularly seen to be driving dangerously and demonstrating threatening driving behaviour?
Rude-boy said:
Board PC in a backwater late on a Wednesday evening, feeling all powerful? oh
I've got a feeling that is the explanation for it too. From my experience, it wasn't a traffic officer, so I guess advanced driving training is little to none. Maybe that is a reason (but not an excuse) for their horribly aggressive and intimidating driving?p1doc said:
got goaded on tue on way home car in front doing 50 so overtook with indicator on pulled back in to watch a 4X4 overtake 3 cars then get behind me and follow me for 5 miles so close i had to put rear view mirror up as dazzling.Then he overtakes me revealing marked x5-no indication on either overtake and neither when he pulled into local police station-nob!Fairly obvious he was trying to bait me
martin
and did he need to indicate for the overtakes or had he provided sufficient information to the cars he was about to pass of his intentions by virtue of his positioning ? martin
which road user was he not providing information of his intention to turn into the police station by not indicating
alpine87 said:
Rude-boy said:
Board PC in a backwater late on a Wednesday evening, feeling all powerful? oh
I've got a feeling that is the explanation for it too. From my experience, it wasn't a traffic officer, so I guess advanced driving training is little to none. Maybe that is a reason (but not an excuse) for their horribly aggressive and intimidating driving?I wonder how many of the people who have been 'goaded' by police vehicles have any of the the following
1. a vocational (group 2) licence obtained by training and test ( vs grandfather rights from a pre 1997 car test)
2. a driver development type course (SafED, MiDAS , some of the lesser offerings from the 'fleet' training providers or one of the short 'driver assessment / introduction to the method' type sessions that IAM and RoADA groups offer?)
3.a 'civilian' advanced driving certificate e.g. IAM or RoADA
4. a none BiB emergency driving driving course
i'm guessing the numbers may be vanishingly small
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