Tyres - Warning - Accelera

[Bill]

JgwR said:

I have never experienced the back end of a car sliding to the near side when accelerating out of a bend and when leaving a roundabout, until now.

Is it an XJR? Because they all do that

JgwR said:

I will think harder prior to posting again as the last thing I would wish to do is worry anyone over my experience, but dont shoot me for speaking about it.

Don't worry about it, and welcome to PH.

[cv01jw]

My Accord had four new Accelera Phi's on it when I bought it (used) from a Honda main dealer - they said they use them regularly and have had no issues.

I haven't noticed anything bad about them - not noticeably worse than any other tyres I have had on previous cars, although I would admit I have not driven another Accord on different tyres so cannot make a direct comparison.

[monthefish]

obob said:

fjord said:

Honestly, anyone who classes tyres as 'dangerous' is clearly just driving like a dick.

This 100%. OP is dangerous not his fking tyres.

I disagree.

The performance of some budget tyres are so far below what you would reasonably expect that it is fair to class them as dangerous.

[Devil2575]

JgwR said:

Prior to this car with the Accelera tyres fitted I have used a few good brands including some economy brands. I have never experienced the back end of a car sliding to the near side when accelerating out of a bend and when leaving a roundabout, until now.

Is this the first RWD car you've owned?

Is the suspension of the car in good order?

There are a number of reasons that you could be experiencing the back end of a RWD car sliding, from driving style to tired/badly adjusted suspension geometry.

Don't just asume that because the tyres are budget that they are the problem.

[Paddymcc]

Have them on the rear of my CLS320 CDI with a brabus chip and they are more than adequate despite all the torque and about 260hp.

[y2blade]

Tyre sheen is for the sidewalls!

[y2blade]

Paddymcc said:

Have them on the rear of my CLS320 CDI with a brabus chip and they are more than adequate despite all the torque and about 260hp.

Paddymcc said:

Have them on the rear of my CLS320 CDI with a brabus chip and they are more than adequate despite all the torque and about 260hp.

We know.

[ShyTallKnight]

Got a nail in the rear Dunlop of my Jag XF so called into the main dealer on my way to London (500 mile round trip). Nailed Dunlop was U/S so instead of fitting 1 x new tyre I opted for 2 x new ones. Baulking at £350 / corner for a Dunlop the Accleras were offered at £148 each fitted. My thoughts were best to have 2 x new rear tyres on so got the Acceleras thinking I'd change them for something more 'premium' when I got back and have more time... But do you know what I'm pretty impressed with them after 1000 miles in some quite horrendous driving conditions (M1 last week anyone..)

[obob]

monthefish said:

I disagree.

The performance of some budget tyres are so far below what you would reasonably expect that it is fair to class them as dangerous.

They are really not. I've had all sorts of budgets and none of them have ever slid out at corners and roundabouts at 30mph. Pretty sure people are lying, exaggerating or drive like idiots.

[Lee540]

My BMW 540i came with Accelera tyres fitted.. seemed fine to me, were on my winter wheels.. did a few thousand miles with no issues.

[monthefish]

obob said:

monthefish said:

I disagree.

The performance of some budget tyres are so far below what you would reasonably expect that it is fair to class them as dangerous.

They are really not. I've had all sorts of budgets and none of them have ever slid out at corners and roundabouts at 30mph. Pretty sure people are lying, exaggerating or drive like idiots.

Just because you've not exprienced it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Paddymcc]

y2blade said:

We know.

Thought id stick up a reply for each rear tyre

[R26Andy]

jon- said:

y2blade said:

R26Andy said:

Ive found Accelera's very good in the dry and just as bad as Bridgestone Potenza RE040's in the wet. I wouldnt class them as dangerous at all.

Same, MissB has them on the S60...she had them on her Golf tdi too without issue.


I call Troll on this thread anyway, it just smells a bit off.

They get VERY mixed reviews:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Accelera/Alpha.h...

I think a lot depends on size / vehicle weight.

You'd be surprised just how different a small VS big tyre is, sometimes the only constant is the name (as the tread patterns can change slightly between sizes)

The premium guys have this nailed. The budgets... less so.

Totally agree, very polarised views. Two Factories using the same brand? Light vs heavy car? My "car" is a lexus rx300 so not far off 2Ton!

Edit: OP, I think you've come in for a bit of unfair stick on this thread, strong views or sweeping statements can do that on here.

Edited by R26Andy on Thursday 19th September 18:26

[CDP]

R26Andy said:

jon- said:

y2blade said:

R26Andy said:

Ive found Accelera's very good in the dry and just as bad as Bridgestone Potenza RE040's in the wet. I wouldnt class them as dangerous at all.

Same, MissB has them on the S60...she had them on her Golf tdi too without issue.


I call Troll on this thread anyway, it just smells a bit off.

They get VERY mixed reviews:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Accelera/Alpha.h...

I think a lot depends on size / vehicle weight.

You'd be surprised just how different a small VS big tyre is, sometimes the only constant is the name (as the tread patterns can change slightly between sizes)

The premium guys have this nailed. The budgets... less so.

Totally agree, very polarised views. Two Factories using the same brand? Light vs heavy car? My "car" is a lexus rx300 so not far off 2Ton!

Or how about a company that just gets the cheapest factories to make up tyres with their branding using whatever generic design the factory is turning out?

We considered getting a big batch of cheap tyres made for trackdays and could have branded them ourselves. Plenty of factories will make them and you can pick a good one...

[JgwR]

Hi,
have had a few rear wheel drive cars in my early driving days, none in the past 12 years and non as heavy as the S Type XS, the tyre size is 245/40R18 Y 97. The car has just been MOT'd in May with no suspension issues, the wheels have all been balanced at the same time due to a slight vibration issue, now ok. Tracking is something I have not thought about, will get this checked.

Maybe I jumped the gun slight, it was my first posting and intended as a heads up, to experience something like what I did I thought it appropriate to tell others, warn others in the event that there was a genuine issue with the tyres, obviously not by some member but some others have experienced similar issues.

Anyway, thanks for my welcome to PH

If there is anyone experienced in the S Type Jaguar XS who can tell me how to go about getting the phone wifi working then please message me.
Regards to all.

[George7]

I've got some 'Landsail' tyres on my MG ZT, they were put on, presumably to pass the MOT not long before I bought the car. I expected them to be horrible, but I've done ~8000 miles since buying the car and they're actually ok. It's easy to induce understeer in the wet, but dry grip is absolutely fine.

[Liquid Tuna]

FFS stop being a girl. The worst you'll get is a bit of understeer or sliding. I've used Accelera tyres on a couple of cars before and they're fine unless you drive like a fool or beyond your ability.

[Kentish]

I bought a set of Nankang NS2 Ultrasport for my 530i; mentioned it here and was told they'd kill me as soon as I unlocked the car.

I've gone around bends & roundabouts quite fast to test their grip in the dry & wet & they're really very good.
They also score about 80% on the tyrereviews website.

[monthefish]

JgwR said:

Hi,
have had a few rear wheel drive cars in my early driving days, none in the past 12 years and non as heavy as the S Type XS, the tyre size is 245/40R18 Y 97. The car has just been MOT'd in May with no suspension issues, the wheels have all been balanced at the same time due to a slight vibration issue, now ok. Tracking is something I have not thought about, will get this checked.

Maybe I jumped the gun slight, it was my first posting and intended as a heads up, to experience something like what I did I thought it appropriate to tell others, warn others in the event that there was a genuine issue with the tyres, obviously not by some member but some others have experienced similar issues.

Anyway, thanks for my welcome to PH

If there is anyone experienced in the S Type Jaguar XS who can tell me how to go about getting the phone wifi working then please message me.
Regards to all.

Welcome to PH, and ignore the negativity and the insults (which are unfortunately fairly common on here, but easy to ignore at least).

As has been linked above, those tyre been reviewed by the general public as scoring less than 50% for wet grip. That should be enough to back up what you are saying, but some people just like an argument I suppose.

[R26Andy]

Edit: taking carp.