RE: Lotus Elise S Cup R revealed
Discussion
Herman Toothrot said:
kambites said:
Why are people comparing a fully FIA approved racing car that's not even road legal to mass produced road cars?
The road-going version is more than £10k cheaper if you want a road car.
Ginetta G40R then £29K inc Vat and its a recent design for a smaller manufacturer.The road-going version is more than £10k cheaper if you want a road car.
The racing car seems to be around £35k so still a fair bit cheaper than the Elise but it's only got 150bhp so it'll be a fair chunk slower. I'm certainly not trying to defend the Elise's price; just saying that comparison to road cars is rather silly.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 27th November 17:20
Ozzie Osmond said:
Scene: the Lotus boardroom, Hethel
CEO, "Well men, we're down on sales and turnover. How can we improve the figures?"
Non-exec, "You have two choices, sell more cars or charge more for the same number you're already selling."
Sales Director, "We've been doing our best but people just don't seem to want to buy very many of our cars."
Marketing director, "We could do a special edition with some cheap stickers, a cheap bodykit and a few different parts at same cost."
FD, "The figures say that a special edition is the best way to go, and the more we can charge for it the better."
CEO, "How much do we charge for a base Elise these days and how much more will it cost to make this special edition?"
Sales director, "The base car sells for about £28,500"
Sales director : "But we haven't sold many because we don't have any headlights to fit to them since someone forgot to pay the supplier"CEO, "Well men, we're down on sales and turnover. How can we improve the figures?"
Non-exec, "You have two choices, sell more cars or charge more for the same number you're already selling."
Sales Director, "We've been doing our best but people just don't seem to want to buy very many of our cars."
Marketing director, "We could do a special edition with some cheap stickers, a cheap bodykit and a few different parts at same cost."
FD, "The figures say that a special edition is the best way to go, and the more we can charge for it the better."
CEO, "How much do we charge for a base Elise these days and how much more will it cost to make this special edition?"
Sales director, "The base car sells for about £28,500"
Sales director : "I bet we could slap some BIG stickers over the voids and claim they're for Track Use only"
Ozzie Osmond said:
Engineering director, "We could do the special edition for about £2,000 in extra parts and the build cost will stay the same."
FD, "I'm liking the sound of this. Costs an extra £2,000 to build so lets go the whole hog and add an extra £5,000 to the selling price, giving us an extra £3,000 profit per car."
CEO, "I didn't get where I am today by pussying about with pennies at the edges! Make the stickers a bit bigger and charge them £39,000 for it!"
The board, "Yes sir that's a brilliant idea. No wonder you're the top man at Lotus. The company is safe in your hands. Can I polish your shoes now or shall I pick them up later outside your bedroom door? And how would you like your eggs for breakfast?"
CEO, "Well done men, we soon got that sorted. Mine's a gin and tonic!".
FD, "I'm liking the sound of this. Costs an extra £2,000 to build so lets go the whole hog and add an extra £5,000 to the selling price, giving us an extra £3,000 profit per car."
CEO, "I didn't get where I am today by pussying about with pennies at the edges! Make the stickers a bit bigger and charge them £39,000 for it!"
The board, "Yes sir that's a brilliant idea. No wonder you're the top man at Lotus. The company is safe in your hands. Can I polish your shoes now or shall I pick them up later outside your bedroom door? And how would you like your eggs for breakfast?"
CEO, "Well done men, we soon got that sorted. Mine's a gin and tonic!".
kambites said:
The G40R is also a road car.
The racing car seems to be around £35k so still a fair bit cheaper than the Elise but it's only got 150bhp so it'll be a fair chunk slower. I'm certainly not trying to defend the Elise's price; just saying that comparison to road cars is rather silly.
The road version of the G40 is more race car than this Elise coming with a full approved cage and fuel cell in 'road spec', not optional extra like this Elise (at least in fuel cell, terms)The racing car seems to be around £35k so still a fair bit cheaper than the Elise but it's only got 150bhp so it'll be a fair chunk slower. I'm certainly not trying to defend the Elise's price; just saying that comparison to road cars is rather silly.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 27th November 17:20
Edited by Herman Toothrot on Wednesday 27th November 17:26
Herman Toothrot said:
The road version of the G40 is more race car than this Elise coming with a full approved cage and fuel cell in 'road spec', not optional extra like this Elise (at least in fuel cell, terms)
Then why is the racing version of the G40 more expensive than the road going one? Comparing a road car to a racing car is daft. Comparing the G40R to the Elise S is reasonable enough, although the Elise is (a lot) faster.
How much does a Cayman Cup cost?
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 27th November 17:37
marshalla said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Scene: the Lotus boardroom, Hethel
CEO, "Well men, we're down on sales and turnover. How can we improve the figures?"
Non-exec, "You have two choices, sell more cars or charge more for the same number you're already selling."
Sales Director, "We've been doing our best but people just don't seem to want to buy very many of our cars."
Marketing director, "We could do a special edition with some cheap stickers, a cheap bodykit and a few different parts at same cost."
FD, "The figures say that a special edition is the best way to go, and the more we can charge for it the better."
CEO, "How much do we charge for a base Elise these days and how much more will it cost to make this special edition?"
Sales director, "The base car sells for about £28,500"
Sales director : "But we haven't sold many because we don't have any headlights to fit to them since someone forgot to pay the supplier"CEO, "Well men, we're down on sales and turnover. How can we improve the figures?"
Non-exec, "You have two choices, sell more cars or charge more for the same number you're already selling."
Sales Director, "We've been doing our best but people just don't seem to want to buy very many of our cars."
Marketing director, "We could do a special edition with some cheap stickers, a cheap bodykit and a few different parts at same cost."
FD, "The figures say that a special edition is the best way to go, and the more we can charge for it the better."
CEO, "How much do we charge for a base Elise these days and how much more will it cost to make this special edition?"
Sales director, "The base car sells for about £28,500"
Sales director : "I bet we could slap some BIG stickers over the voids and claim they're for Track Use only"
Ozzie Osmond said:
Engineering director, "We could do the special edition for about £2,000 in extra parts and the build cost will stay the same."
FD, "I'm liking the sound of this. Costs an extra £2,000 to build so lets go the whole hog and add an extra £5,000 to the selling price, giving us an extra £3,000 profit per car."
CEO, "I didn't get where I am today by pussying about with pennies at the edges! Make the stickers a bit bigger and charge them £39,000 for it!"
The board, "Yes sir that's a brilliant idea. No wonder you're the top man at Lotus. The company is safe in your hands. Can I polish your shoes now or shall I pick them up later outside your bedroom door? And how would you like your eggs for breakfast?"
CEO, "Well done men, we soon got that sorted. Mine's a gin and tonic!".
FD, "I'm liking the sound of this. Costs an extra £2,000 to build so lets go the whole hog and add an extra £5,000 to the selling price, giving us an extra £3,000 profit per car."
CEO, "I didn't get where I am today by pussying about with pennies at the edges! Make the stickers a bit bigger and charge them £39,000 for it!"
The board, "Yes sir that's a brilliant idea. No wonder you're the top man at Lotus. The company is safe in your hands. Can I polish your shoes now or shall I pick them up later outside your bedroom door? And how would you like your eggs for breakfast?"
CEO, "Well done men, we soon got that sorted. Mine's a gin and tonic!".
as you were.
Herman Toothrot said:
Richard-G said:
hate to piss on your parade but this car isn't based on the model that costs '£28,500'
as you were.
Seriously!!!as you were.
It's based on the same car the old K series S2 was!
£2 million
is based on
£100 k
£50k
is based on
£15k
i could go on and on.
The car that forms the title of this thread is not based on a k series S2 at all, the chassis is the same.
the gearbox is different
the engine is different
the engine management is different
the aspiration is different
the wheelbase is different
the track is different
the suspension is different
the interior is different
the bodyshape/aero is different
the brakes are different
the wheels are different
the seats/roll cage is different
the hvac system is different
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