Tell ME i'm wrong: VW Golf Owners
Discussion
J4CKO said:
Part of the problem is that even worn smooth Golf TDI's keep their value beyond their actual worth, I sold a 1999 2.0 Petrol Bora, absolutely mint with 90k on, it went for £600 and diesel ones, with more miles were going for three times that, a grand or so buys a lot of fuel, it isnt liek the diesel ones run on fresh air and the petrol ones do 12 mpg, probably 30 plays 45, the fuel is slightly cheaper and if it breaks you throw it away, the diesel one has more capacity for problems, that old 2.0 8 valve VW engine isnt very inspiring but they are bloody tough. .
Amazing how much it costs some people to save money.
Your point about the price of TDIs vs the petrol equivalent and how you can use the difference in purchase price to fund thousands of miles is spot on. Amazing how much it costs some people to save money.
That is before you consider one diesel specific component failing which costs significantly more than on the petrol version for example dual mass flywheels, high pressure injectors, high pressure pumps, diesel particulate filters to name a few.
What are those Mark IV Golf SDI like?
Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
You get a lot more car for your money if you go for a petrol.
My father bought a Mk4 golf V5 about 6 months ago which really was as good as new with 45000 on the clock and full history for around £1300 as he's getting on and likes a relaxed drive we went for a auto.
I can really recommend as the car really does soak the potholes up with ease and he gets over 30 to the gallon out the old girl and its has all the toys plus you don't have a turbo to contend with and you get a lovely 5 pot warble.
My father bought a Mk4 golf V5 about 6 months ago which really was as good as new with 45000 on the clock and full history for around £1300 as he's getting on and likes a relaxed drive we went for a auto.
I can really recommend as the car really does soak the potholes up with ease and he gets over 30 to the gallon out the old girl and its has all the toys plus you don't have a turbo to contend with and you get a lovely 5 pot warble.
elementad said:
What are those Mark IV Golf SDI like?
Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
The SDIs tend to be for those whom are buying a car for a transportation purpose, nothing else.Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
As has been mentioned - they ARE bomb-proof. They don't fail head gaskets like my 115 - and they don't have chocolate camshafts like the big boys. You are quite right to assume the SDIs are über slow, but they usually return much better urban economy. If you spend much time on NSL roads, however, there's little difference. I have no issues getting mine to average 60mpg on my 32 mile commute, my record being 66.6mpg average with 75.9mpg peak.
For the record, I bought my golf-with-a-boot with 164,000 on the clock with almost FSH for £800.
HTH
elementad said:
What are those Mark IV Golf SDI like?
Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
SDIs are horrible. don't bother. I could outrun a friend's 1.9 SDI polo with my 1.9 90bhp tdi van. no idea why you'd buy one new, crap on fuel as well as you end up beating it everywhere...Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
My pensioner Mum runs around in a Bora my Dad first bought new. It's 53 plate 130 Sport with 210 on the clock. Still on the original turbo and clutch. All it's ever needed is service items, a pair of rear springs and some new bushes. It's starting to look a bit tired inside but it still drives beautifully and goes well. They thought about replacing it but decided it's been so good they're going to run it until something expensive consigns it to the scrap yard. I have warned them it may well out live them both.
OGR4M said:
elementad said:
What are those Mark IV Golf SDI like?
Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
The SDIs tend to be for those whom are buying a car for a transportation purpose, nothing else.Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
As has been mentioned - they ARE bomb-proof. They don't fail head gaskets like my 115 - and they don't have chocolate camshafts like the big boys. You are quite right to assume the SDIs are über slow, but they usually return much better urban economy. If you spend much time on NSL roads, however, there's little difference. I have no issues getting mine to average 60mpg on my 32 mile commute, my record being 66.6mpg average with 75.9mpg peak.
For the record, I bought my golf-with-a-boot with 164,000 on the clock with almost FSH for £800.
HTH
You did well there. I thought those sorts of deals would be readily available but it seems not.
164k with almost FSH for approx £800 is a great deal (providing you've not had major problems).
Has it been ok for you?
Against my better judgement I bought a 3yr old B6 model A4 1.9Tdi in 2004 from a local Lexus franchise.
The car was on longlife service intervals. It was showing 37k miles and had been serviced just once in that time. The dealer assured me it would get a proper service before going out, and the book was subsequently stamped. At the time, these cars were highly sought-after & I couldn't negotiate any kind of discount. The best I could get out of them was 6mths VEL & the sales manager was arsey about that. 5k miles later the water pump seized & the cambelt shredded. Over £650 worth of warranty work was required. I lost faith in the car & part-exed it against a V70.
It might have been a simple case of bad luck, but I've always suspected the extended servicing intervals were a factor. I firmly believe modern diesels need a proper service every 10-12k if they are going to last.
The car was on longlife service intervals. It was showing 37k miles and had been serviced just once in that time. The dealer assured me it would get a proper service before going out, and the book was subsequently stamped. At the time, these cars were highly sought-after & I couldn't negotiate any kind of discount. The best I could get out of them was 6mths VEL & the sales manager was arsey about that. 5k miles later the water pump seized & the cambelt shredded. Over £650 worth of warranty work was required. I lost faith in the car & part-exed it against a V70.
It might have been a simple case of bad luck, but I've always suspected the extended servicing intervals were a factor. I firmly believe modern diesels need a proper service every 10-12k if they are going to last.
My 52 plate TDi gets major serviced every year in November and an oil and general check over in the spring. All my friends think I am mad.
My car has been 100% reliable and all their neglected s
tbox French turd has been changed 4 times since I bought mine.
The problem I find with the Golf is that other mk IV Golf drivers seem to be such bellends and I worry that I might be tarred with the same brush.
My car has been 100% reliable and all their neglected s
tbox French turd has been changed 4 times since I bought mine.The problem I find with the Golf is that other mk IV Golf drivers seem to be such bellends and I worry that I might be tarred with the same brush.
elementad said:
How long have you had you 115 and how many miles you putting on it?
You did well there. I thought those sorts of deals would be readily available but it seems not.
164k with almost FSH for approx £800 is a great deal (providing you've not had major problems).
Has it been ok for you?
It was a good deal.You did well there. I thought those sorts of deals would be readily available but it seems not.
164k with almost FSH for approx £800 is a great deal (providing you've not had major problems).
Has it been ok for you?
I've had my Bora for nearly 18 months, and have put 27,000 miles on it, now running perfectly at 191,000. Bills include head gasket; belts and tensioners; and an air con pump (second hand).
All told the car owes me around £1500 with bills, not including consumables like tyres/services/tax etc. still a good, economical, faultless alternative to a 1983 27mpg Golf 1.3.
elementad said:
I'd be inclined to agree with you at first. My budget was originally up to 1k, then realising they really WERE snotters for that money I upped my budget to 2k expecting to find an old (10 year old) cared for example (or at least has had cambelt done and an oil change in the past 4 years).
I suspect that a lot of 10 year old cars are not as well cared for as you would like. £2k isn't much of a budget to buy a car so you can't really be that supprised that you will spend a lot of time looking at dogs, surely? I think you'll find this with any car, not just Golfs.J4CKO said:
Part of the problem is that even worn smooth Golf TDI's keep their value beyond their actual worth, I sold a 1999 2.0 Petrol Bora, absolutely mint with 90k on, it went for £600 and diesel ones, with more miles were going for three times that, a grand or so buys a lot of fuel, it isnt liek the diesel ones run on fresh air and the petrol ones do 12 mpg, probably 30 plays 45, the fuel is slightly cheaper and if it breaks you throw it away, the diesel one has more capacity for problems, that old 2.0 8 valve VW engine isnt very inspiring but they are bloody tough. .
Amazing how much it costs some people to save money.
Indeed. Diesel VWs have always held their value to a stupid degree. Amazing how much it costs some people to save money.
OGR4M said:
elementad said:
What are those Mark IV Golf SDI like?
Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
The SDIs tend to be for those whom are buying a car for a transportation purpose, nothing else.Basically the TDI without the turbo.
They look terribly slow but again, not buying for performance. Looks like the turbo ones (say 110bhp) are approx 0-60 in around 10 seconds with a nice wedge or torque when driving it.
The SDI looks like its approx 20 seconds to 60 (VERY slow) but they can be bought for about a third cheaper than the TDI with much less miles on and if what i read is true they are pretty bomb proof and give back same if not better economy
Maybe more chance of finding a "one lady owner" with these
As has been mentioned - they ARE bomb-proof. They don't fail head gaskets like my 115 - and they don't have chocolate camshafts like the big boys. You are quite right to assume the SDIs are über slow, but they usually return much better urban economy. If you spend much time on NSL roads, however, there's little difference. I have no issues getting mine to average 60mpg on my 32 mile commute, my record being 66.6mpg average with 75.9mpg peak.
For the record, I bought my golf-with-a-boot with 164,000 on the clock with almost FSH for £800.
HTH
confused_buyer said:
Had an Avensis auto come in px this morning. 206k on the clock and seller admitted it was last serviced at about 100k.
Drives absolutely perfectly, ran it through an MOT this afternoon - just got the call, passed without even an advisory.
When it comes to budget snotters I increasingly wonder why anyone really bothers with the European rubbish.
The Avensis is built in Derbyshire, from mostly (if not all) EU-sourced parts Drives absolutely perfectly, ran it through an MOT this afternoon - just got the call, passed without even an advisory.
When it comes to budget snotters I increasingly wonder why anyone really bothers with the European rubbish.
.I kid ye not
!Motorrad said:
shoestring7 said:
What exactly do you mean by a full service history?
SS7
It only means one thing. A full record of every service done according to the manufacturers schedule. Be that interval or 'long life' servicing.SS7
I've bought cars with all of this…
SS7
rsv696 said:
5k miles later the water pump seized & the cambelt shredded. Over £650 worth of warranty work was required. I lost faith in the car & part-exed it against a V70.
It might have been a simple case of bad luck, but I've always suspected the extended servicing intervals were a factor.
The water pump doesn't have any contact with engine oil, and isn't touched at a service (other than during a cambelt change), so I think that one is just down to bad luck and nothing to do with long service intervals.It might have been a simple case of bad luck, but I've always suspected the extended servicing intervals were a factor.
AJB said:
rsv696 said:
5k miles later the water pump seized & the cambelt shredded. Over £650 worth of warranty work was required. I lost faith in the car & part-exed it against a V70.
It might have been a simple case of bad luck, but I've always suspected the extended servicing intervals were a factor.
The water pump doesn't have any contact with engine oil, and isn't touched at a service (other than during a cambelt change), so I think that one is just down to bad luck and nothing to do with long service intervals.It might have been a simple case of bad luck, but I've always suspected the extended servicing intervals were a factor.
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